Panamera [Official] Porsche Panamera (971)

[Rolf]

I am certainly warming up to the new generation, the styling overall is much more cohesive and elegant than the previous model. The most impressive part of the styling is the gorgeous rear end with 911 style rear lights and on the Turbo that unusual split rear spoiler that comes out in a most unusual way. The profile looks much more sleek at the rear as the window line at the D-pillar now is flatter and also with big wheels it looks fantastic like no other 4dr saloon on earth.

The interior mixes luxury, sportiness and technical modern elements in a very nice way. The center console up front with those lower slatted vents reminds me of the vents in the older 928. The large center screen looks well integrated and I like the use of a large slab of wood (or carbon fibre) with aluminium metal surrounds. The ventilation controls with the black shiny touch panels looks high tech and reminds me of a high end hifi music system. The rear compartment center console in my opinion looks even more impressive than the front. I also love the rear vent design that are integrated in the B-pillar.

The highlight for me of the interior has got to be the design of the front and rear seats, they must be the most stylish and comfortable sporty seats around.

I am slightly disappointed that this car has to weigh so much about 1900 to 2000kg, although it is on a par with its rivals but I was hoping that it will be more like 1800kg.

 

[JLBM]

Next BMW M5 and Panamera 4S will be similarly priced.. I'd go for the Panamera..

 

[LaArtist]

^Without even seeing that M5 and knowing that it will be faster, i still go with the Panamera.
No 5er can be this.. or infact no BMW period.

 

[SKY]

The 5er is no competition to this Panamera. You have to look to the 6er GC, RS7, and CLS63. And not even them.

The only real competitor would be the GT4 by AMG.

 

[peterleo]

configurator is up on porsche.de
...for those who want to see the car in 3d

 

[SCOTT27]

Fingerprints on the black surfaces will be a problem..tsk,tsk.
Anyway I like. Its what the Panamera should always have been... A four door 911.
Bring on the Sport Tourer.

 

[SCOTT27]

^Without even seeing that M5 and knowing that it will be faster, i still go with the Panamera.
No 5er can be this.. or infact no BMW period.

From what I have heard from people who are developing the new M5 they say it will set significant standards in Lightweight materials that will greatly and further benefit Performance and dynamics. Hence the reason for its upgraded V8 as it already is an excellent engine.
It will be interesting to say the least. But then by then we should have Turbo S and GTS Panamera.l

 

[sako97]

^ The Panamera Hybrid coming next year is expected to be the range-topping variant with a rumored 700hp.

 

[mac1]

^ The Panamera Hybrid coming next year is expected to be the range-topping variant with a rumored 700hp.

yes there is news about that from motor trend

700-HP PORSCHE PANAMERA TO GET 918 SPYDER PERFORMANCE HYBRID TECH

With the well-earned exception of the 918 Spyder, the hottest version of any Porsche you can buy says “Turbo S” on the back of it. In the future, though, that may not always be the case. Thanks to the 918’s high-performance hybrid technology, the fastest trim levels of future Porsches are going to have the word “hybrid” pasted to them, starting with the Panamera.

The Panamera Turbo S, of course, isn’t going anywhere. After all, it wouldn’t be Porsche if they reduced the number of model variants. If you drooled a bit on the pictures of the all-new Panamera, you might’ve obscured the Turbo S badging on the car. It’s here, it should have 580 hp to give it a nice bump over the 550-hp Turbo, and it’ll drive circles around many a performance sedan (the non-S Turbo did a 7:38 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife, same as a 997 GT3 RS). Then it’ll run and hide when its big brother arrives.

Described to us as a 918 with a back seat, an even-faster Panamera is coming soon. Matching the Panamera’s twin-turbo 4.0-liter V-8 with the 918’s hybrid technology will yield power output in the ballpark of 700 hp and torque likely around 800 lb-ft. Our source doesn’t know the final name yet, but we’re guessing something logically German like Panamera Turbo S Hybrid. Or maybe they’ll give it a number like they did the Boxster (928 has a nice ring to it).

This won’t be the only hybrid Panamera, though. The standard supercharged V-6-powered Panamera S Hybrid will make its return in the near future, and its job will still be to get better fuel economy than the rest of the model line.

In a funny way, hybrid technology will bookend the efficiency spectrum of the Panamera, and you can bet your bottom Euro the future of more Porsche models will look very similar. The obvious next candidate is the mechanically similar Cayenne SUV, but expect the technology to make its way into the sports cars, too. Rumors are already circulating about a hybrid variant of the next 911. Bank ‘em, because it’s only a matter of time.

 

[mac1]

From what I have heard from people who are developing the new M5 they say it will set significant standards in Lightweight materials that will greatly and further benefit Performance and dynamics. Hence the reason for its upgraded V8 as it already is an excellent engine.
It will be interesting to say the least. But then by then we should have Turbo S and GTS Panamera.l

BMW 750Li F01 weight : xDrive : 2135 Kg
BMW 750Li G11 weight : xDrive : 1990 Kg

with the carbon core technology the different is 145Kg but BMW said the different is 190 pounds = 86KG

if BMW bring this technology to new BMW M5 the weight will be 1800 Kg (BMW M5 F10 1945Kg) and this great

new BMW M5 600 HP or plus with xDrive and new Gearbox all wheel steering like 7-series it it will be the fastest sedan no doubt about that

BMW M5 F10 was faster then Panamera Turbo around Nurburgring but when Turbo S comes it was the fastest sedan

so the new M5 when it comes it will be the fastest sedan but when Turbo s or Turbo hybrid comes it will be faster

BTW M5/M6GC CP they are not faster then old Panamera around Nurburgring

 

[LaArtist]

No chance in hell the M5 will be faster than the Panamera.. It will have problems with the turbo..
then there is turbo S and this rumored 700hp one..the game has moved on.

 

[slicknick]

^ The Panamera Hybrid coming next year is expected to be the range-topping variant with a rumored 700hp.

I think it will be the first time ever for a saloon car (stock, of course) to exceed 700 bhp.....Would I be right in saying that, anyone?

 

[Padi]

I think it will be the first time ever for a saloon car (stock, of course) to exceed 700 bhp.....Would I be right in saying that, anyone?

Hellcat

//Well it's 700hp, less than 700bhp..

 

[slicknick]

Hellcat

//Well it's 700hp, less than 700bhp..

Not sure if I would consider the Hellcat as a "stock" car

 

[Sunny]

I think it will be the first time ever for a saloon car (stock, of course) to exceed 700 bhp.....Would I be right in saying that, anyone?

Believe Tesla claims 762Hp for Model S P0D with "Ludicrous" mode.

 

[SKY]

They can really achieve the performance they want. The 918 has a V8 with similar power than the Turbo S version. I think the power will be over 700 PS. Getting 150 PS from electric power sounds quite standard these days.

 

[LaArtist]

Standard equipment for the 4S:

Engine
2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 engine: maximum power output 324 kW (440 hp), maximum torque 550 Nm
75-litre fuel tank

Engine features
Water-cooled with thermal management
Charge-air cooling
Direct fuel injection (DFI) with central injector configuration
VarioCam Plus
Active air intake flaps

Transmission
8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Porsche Traction Management (PTM): active all-wheel drive with electronic and map-controlled multi-plate clutch with automatic brake differential (ABD) and anti-slipregulation (ASR)
Auto start/stop function and coasting

Chassis
Aluminium double-wishbone front axle
Aluminium multi-link rear axle
Porsche Stability Management (PSM) with ABS and extended brake functions
Integrated Porsche 4D Chassis Control
Steel spring suspension including Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
Tyre Pressure Monitoring (TPM)
Tyre sealing compound and electric air compressor

Brakes
Six-piston aluminium monobloc fixed brake calipers at front, internally vented and slotted brake discs
Four-piston aluminium monobloc fixed brake calipers at rear, internally vented and slotted brake discs
Integral brake discs with diameter of 360 mm at front and 330 mm at rear
Brake calipers with Titanium Grey finish
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Electric parking brake

Body
19-inch Panamera S wheels
Fully galvanised steel/aluminium hybrid lightweight bodyshell
Bonnet, rear hatch, doors, side sections, roof and front wings in aluminium
Four doors with integrated side impact protection elements
Air outlet trim in front wings in black (high-gloss)
Side window trims in silver colour (high-gloss)
‘PORSCHE’ logo and model designation on rear hatch in silver colour (high-gloss)
Adaptive rear spoiler (two-way) in exterior colour
Twin dual-tube tailpipes, outside left and right, in brushed stainless steel
Four individual seats with continuous centre console and armrest in rear
Eight-way power seats (front) with electric adjustment of seat height, squab and backrest angle and fore/aft position
Integrated headrests (front and rear).
Rear seats with folding centre armrest and individually folding backrests (60 : 40)
Seat heating (front)

Electrical System
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including online navigation module, mobile phone preparation, audio interfaces and voice control system
Connect Plus including online navigation module, Apple® CarPlay, LTE telephone module with SIM card reader and wireless Internet access, smartphone compartment and Porsche Car Connect, Remote Vehicle Status, Remote Services and Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (PVTS)
Hi-Fi loudspeaker system with 10 loudspeakers and total output of 150 watts
12-V socket in front centre console storage compartment
Two USB charge ports in rear compartment

Lighting
LED main headlights
4-spot LED daytime running lights
Front light units with LED position lights and direction indicators
Windscreen wiper system including rain sensor
Mirror courtesy lighting
Automatic headlight activation including ‘Welcome Home’ lighting
Three-dimensional LED taillights with integrated 4-spot brake lights and light strip
Interior lighting: illumination of door release levers, front centre console storage compartment, front door storage compartments, reading spot lights, interiorlights in front, reading lights rear left and right, orientation lighting front and rear, luggage compartment lighting
Tinted thermally insulated glass all round with grey top-tint on windscreen

Instruments
Central analogue rev counter with black dial face
Continuously adjustable door brake
Automatic rear hatch
Instrument cluster with two high-resolution 7-inch displays
Electrically adjustable, folding and heatable exterior mirrors, aspherical on driver‘s side
Automatically dimming mirrors
ParkAssist (front and rear) with visual and audible warning
Cruise control
Keyless drive

Safety and security
Porsche Side Impact Protection System (POSIP) comprising side impact protection elements in the doors and thorax airbag integrated into the side bolster of eachfront seats
Full-size airbags for driver and front passenger
Knee airbags for driver and front passenger
Side airbags in front
Curtain airbags along entire roof frame and side windows from the A-pillar to the C-pillar left and right
Active bonnet system
ISOFIX child seat mounting points on rear seats
Engine immobiliser with remote central locking and alarm system with radar-based interior surveillance

Air conditioning
Two-zone automatic climate control with separate temperature settings for driver and front passenger, automatic air-recirculation mode including air quality sensor
Particle/pollen filter with active carbon filter

Interior
Interior in standard colour, partial leather seats in embossed leather
Centre console armrest in front with integrated storage compartment
Multifunction sports steering wheel with gearshift paddles, rim in smooth-finish leather
Steering wheel with manual fore/aft and height adjustment
Interior package in black (high-gloss)
Door sill guards in brushed aluminium with model designation at front

Luggage compartment
Glove compartment, storage compartments in front and rear doors,storage compartment in centre console, small centre console storage compartment, centre console storage compartment in rear and armrest storage compartment in rear (all depending on model & personalised specification)
Two integral cupholders in front centre armrest
Two integral cupholders in rear compartment
Flexible luggage compartment roller cover

Colours
Solid paint colours: black, white
Partial leather interior package in standard colour: Black, Agate Grey

 

[LaArtist]

Standard equpiment 4S Diesel:

Engine
4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 engine: maximum power output 310 kW (422 hp), maximum torque 850 Nm
75-litre fuel tank

Engine features
Water-cooled with thermal management
Twin turbochargers with variable turbine geometry (VTG)
Charge-air cooling
Common-rail injection system
Diesel particulate filter (DPF)
Active air intake flaps

Transmission
8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Porsche Traction Management (PTM): active all-wheel drive with electronic and map-controlled multi-plate clutch with automatic brake differential (ABD) and anti-slipregulation (ASR)
Auto start/stop function and coasting

Chassis
Aluminium double-wishbone front axle
Aluminium multi-link rear axle
Porsche Stability Management (PSM) with ABS and extended brake functions
Integrated Porsche 4D Chassis Control
Steel spring suspension including Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
Tyre Pressure Monitoring (TPM)
Tyre sealing compound and electric air compressor

Brakes
Six-piston aluminium monobloc fixed brake calipers at front, internally vented and slotted brake discs
Four-piston aluminium monobloc fixed brake calipers at rear, internally vented and slotted brake discs
Integral brake discs with diameter of 360 mm at front and 330 mm at rear
Brake calipers with Titanium Grey finish
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Electric parking brake

Body
19-inch Panamera S wheels
Fully galvanised steel/aluminium hybrid lightweight bodyshell
Bonnet, rear hatch, doors, side sections, roof and front wings in aluminium
Four doors with integrated side impact protection elements
Air outlet trim in front wings in black (high-gloss)
Side window trims in silver colour (high-gloss)
‘PORSCHE’ logo and model designation on rear hatch in silver colour (high-gloss)
Adaptive rear spoiler (two-way) in exterior colour
Twin dual-tube tailpipes, outside left and right, in brushed stainless steel
Four individual seats with continuous centre console and armrest in rear
Eight-way power seats (front) with electric adjustment of seat height, squab and backrest angle and fore/aft position
Integrated headrests (front and rear).
Rear seats with folding centre armrest and individually folding backrests (60 : 40)
Seat heating (front)

Electrical System
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including online navigation module, mobile phone preparation, audio interfaces and voice control system
Connect Plus including online navigation module, Apple® CarPlay, LTE telephone module with SIM card reader and wireless Internet access, smartphone compartment and Porsche Car Connect, Remote Vehicle Status, Remote Services and Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (PVTS)
Hi-Fi loudspeaker system with 10 loudspeakers and total output of 150 watts
12-V socket in front centre console storage compartment
Two USB charge ports in rear compartment

Lighting
LED main headlights
4-spot LED daytime running lights
Front light units with LED position lights and direction indicators
Windscreen wiper system including rain sensor
Mirror courtesy lighting
Automatic headlight activation including ‘Welcome Home’ lighting
Three-dimensional LED taillights with integrated 4-spot brake lights and light strip
Interior lighting: illumination of door release levers, front centre console storage compartment, front door storage compartments, reading spot lights, interiorlights in front, reading lights rear left and right, orientation lighting front and rear, luggage compartment lighting
Tinted thermally insulated glass all round with grey top-tint on windscreen

Instruments
Central analogue rev counter with black dial face
Continuously adjustable door brake
Automatic rear hatch
Instrument cluster with two high-resolution 7-inch displays
Electrically adjustable, folding and heatable exterior mirrors, aspherical on driver‘s side
Automatically dimming mirrors
ParkAssist (front and rear) with visual and audible warning
Cruise control
Keyless drive

Safety and security
Porsche Side Impact Protection System (POSIP) comprising side impact protection elements in the doors and thorax airbag integrated into the side bolster of eachfront seats
Full-size airbags for driver and front passenger
Knee airbags for driver and front passenger
Side airbags in front
Curtain airbags along entire roof frame and side windows from the A-pillar to the C-pillar left and right
Active bonnet system
ISOFIX child seat mounting points on rear seats
Engine immobiliser with remote central locking and alarm system with radar-based interior surveillance

Air conditioning
Two-zone automatic climate control with separate temperature settings for driver and front passenger, automatic air-recirculation mode including air quality sensor
Particle/pollen filter with active carbon filter

Interior
Interior in standard colour, partial leather seats in embossed leather
Centre console armrest in front with integrated storage compartment
Multifunction sports steering wheel with gearshift paddles, rim in smooth-finish leather
Steering wheel with manual fore/aft and height adjustment
Interior package in black (high-gloss)
Door sill guards in brushed aluminium with model designation at front

Luggage compartment
Glove compartment, storage compartments in front and rear doors,storage compartment in centre console, small centre console storage compartment, centre console storage compartment in rear and armrest storage compartment in rear (all depending on model & personalised specification)
Two integral cupholders in front centre armrest
Two integral cupholders in rear compartment
Flexible luggage compartment roller cover

Colours
Solid paint colours: black, white
Partial leather interior package in standard colour: Black, Agate Grey

 

[LaArtist]

Standard equipment Turbo:

Engine
4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 engine: maximum power output 404 kW (550 hp), maximum torque 770 Nm
90-litre fuel tank

Engine features
Water-cooled with thermal management
Twin-scroll turbochargers
Charge-air cooling
Direct fuel injection (DFI) with central injector configuration
VarioCam Plus with adaptive cylinder control
Active air intake flaps

Transmission
8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Porsche Traction Management (PTM): active all-wheel drive with electronic and map-controlled multi-plate clutch with automatic brake differential (ABD) and anti-slipregulation (ASR)
Auto start/stop function and coasting

Chassis
Aluminium double-wishbone front axle
Aluminium multi-link rear axle
Porsche Stability Management (PSM) with ABS and extended brake functions
Integrated Porsche 4D Chassis Control
Adaptive air suspension including Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
Tyre Pressure Monitoring (TPM)
Tyre sealing compound and electric air compressor

Brakes
Six-piston aluminium monobloc fixed brake calipers at front, internally vented and slotted brake discs
Four-piston aluminium monobloc fixed brake calipers at rear, internally vented and slotted brake discs
Composite brake discs with diameter of 410 mm at front and 380 mm at rear
Brake calipers with red finish
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Electric parking brake

Body
20-inch Panamera Turbo wheels
Fully galvanised steel/aluminium hybrid lightweight bodyshell
Bonnet, rear hatch, doors, side sections, roof and front wings in aluminium
Four doors with integrated side impact protection elements
Air outlet trim in front wings painted in exterior colour
Side window trims in silver colour (high-gloss)
‘PORSCHE’ logo and model designation on rear hatch in silver colour (high-gloss)
Adaptive rear spoiler (four-way) in exterior colour
Twin dual-tube turbo tailpipes, outside left and right, in brushed stainless steel

Interior
Four individual seats with continuous centre console and armrest in rear
14-way power seats (front) with memory package comprising electric adjustment of seat squab depth, four-way lumbar Support and electric adjustment of steering column for driver and front passenger. Memory function for seat position settings, steering column and exterior mirrors
Integrated headrests (front and rear), embossed with ‘turbo’ logo.
Rear seats with folding centre armrest and individually folding backrests (60 : 40)
Seat heating (front and rear)

Electrical System
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including online navigation module, mobile phone preparation, audio interfaces and voice control system
Connect Plus including online navigation module, Apple® CarPlay, LTE telephone module with SIM card reader and wireless Internet access, smartphone compartment and Porsche Car Connect, Remote Vehicle Status, Remote Services and Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (PVTS)
BOSE® Surround Sound System with 14 loudspeakers including subwoofer, total output 710 watts
12-V socket in front centre console storage compartment
Two USB charge ports in rear compartment

Lighting
LED main headlights including Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
4-spot LED daytime running lights
Front light units with LED position lights and direction indicators
Windscreen wiper system including rain sensor
Mirror courtesy lighting
Automatic headlight activation including ‘Welcome Home’ lighting
Three-dimensional LED taillights with integrated 4-spot brake lights and light strip
Interior lighting: illumination of door release levers, front centre console storage compartment, front door storage compartments, reading spot lights, interiorlights in front, reading lights rear left and right, orientation lighting front and rear, luggage compartment lighting
Tinted thermally insulated glass all round with grey top-tint on windscreen

Instruments
Central analogue rev counter with black dial face and ‘turbo’ logo
Comfort Access. Note: The Comfort Access uses state of the art technology. However, it cannot be completely ruled out that the key´s wireless encryption code is intercepted and used to open or steal the vehicle.
Continuously adjustable door brake
Automatic rear hatch
Instrument cluster with two high-resolution 7-inch displays
Electrically adjustable, folding and heatable exterior mirrors, aspherical on driver‘s side
Automatically dimming mirrors
ParkAssist (front and rear) with visual and audible warning
Cruise control
Keyless drive

Safety and security
Porsche Side Impact Protection System (POSIP) comprising side impact protection elements in the doors and thorax airbag integrated into the side bolster of eachfront seats
Full-size airbags for driver and front passenger
Knee airbags for driver and front passenger
Side airbags in front
Curtain airbags along entire roof frame and side windows from the A-pillar to the C-pillar left and right
Active bonnet system
ISOFIX child seat mounting points on rear seats
Engine immobiliser with remote central locking and alarm system with radar-based interior surveillance

Air conditioning
Two-zone automatic climate control with separate temperature settings for driver and front passenger, automatic air-recirculation mode including air quality sensor
Particle/pollen filter with active carbon filter

Interior
Leather interior package in standard colour, smooth-finish leather
Centre console armrest in front with integrated storage compartment
Multifunction sports steering wheel with gearshift paddles, rim in smooth-finish leather
Steering wheel with electric fore/aft and height adjustment
Interior package in dark walnut
Roof lining in Alcantara® including A-, B- and C-pillar trims and sun visors
Door sill guards in brushed aluminium with model designation at front

Luggage compartment
Glove compartment, storage compartments in front and rear doors,storage compartment in centre console, small centre console storage compartment, centre console storage compartment in rear and armrest storage compartment in rear (all depending on model & personalised specification)
Two integral cupholders in front centre armrest
Two integral cupholders in rear compartment
Flexible luggage compartment roller cover

Colours
Metallic paint colours: Carrara White, Jet Black, Volcano Grey, Rhodium Silver, Sapphire Blue, Night Blue, Agate Grey, Mahogany
Leather interior package in standard colour: Black, Luxor Beige, Saddle Brown, Agate Grey, Marsala

 

[Soup]

Not a proper sedan like its rivals, it drives like a sports car at 2,000 kg additional to the driver and co.

A 928 could've been the right Porsche many desire to own at 150k ~ 200k with the downsized engine.


SWB (W222)