Panamera [Official] 2021 Porsche Panamera facelift

[Jonathan19]

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[dalab]

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And that!!?? It's great, hilarious although I don't know what the point of doing that from the phone is but I would love to show it to everyone, in the practical part it looks like a developed production version of those almost magical magnetic dampers from a decade ago or more than at that time It could not be applied en masse due to its weight and costs.

 

[Merc1]

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Reviews are out.

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[Merc1]

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[dalab]

The active ride is really eye-catching, especially for its interface, thinking about it, eye-catching is an understatement.

 

[Centurion]

The active ride is really eye-catching, especially for its interface, thinking about it, eye-catching is an understatement.

I have mixed feelings about it.

For body control and handling it clearly helps a big and heavy saloon manage weight transfer better. From the reviews that I have read, the suspension is not worth if ride quality is the priority because the S and 7 are more comfortable.

8 out of 10 times, smaller alloys will deliver a more tangible advantage. I experienced this with my G20 X3. Adaptive suspension + smallest alloy size at 19 inches delivered a ride quality that was close to air suspension without the expensive or reliability woes.

Porsche's demonstrations of the Panamera suspension are cool. However, just because you can drive fast over very broken/uneven surfaces doesn't mean that you should. You will either crack/buckle your alloys or geometry will get out of alignment, resulting in premature and uneven tyre wear.

 

[Jonathan19]

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[dalab]

For body control and handling it clearly helps

I imagine so, it scientifically deceives inertia, but will it do so much?

8 out of 10 times, smaller alloys will deliver a more tangible advantage.

Amen, in one of my cars, the most comfortable of all, I went from 18 to 20 - profile 35 and I lived having to change the pressure up and down, I even knew the size of the ant I was stepping on and I was left without edges in no time, a very uncomfortable and very expensive move.

Porsche's demonstrations of the Panamera suspension are cool. However, just because you can drive fast over very broken/uneven surfaces doesn't mean that you should. You will either crack/buckle your alloys or geometry will get out of alignment, resulting in premature and uneven tyre wear.

Yes, I had not thought about that part of damaging the wheels, but I still think that the system is wonderful without abusing it.

But beyond the usefulness, the "gimmick" interface is what amazes me, that's what I don't know what it's for, to sit and play with your cell phone on the sidewalk and drive the old neighbor crazy?
If Steve Jobs saw it he would be shocked by where they have come with their idea of including a gyroscopic in a phone

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Thank you! That's just what I want to know, I'll look at it

 

[Centurion]

But beyond the usefulness, the "gimmick" interface is what amazes me, that's what I don't know what it's for, to sit and play with your cell phone on the sidewalk and drive the old neighbor crazy?

Is the app available to owners or is it just a demo feature for the press.

Amen, in one of my cars, the most comfortable of all, I went from 18 to 20 - profile 35 and I lived having to change the pressure up and down, I even knew the size of the ant I was stepping on and I was left without edges in no time, a very uncomfortable and very expensive move.

Surprisingly 19 inch alloys are an option on the Taycan. This is not the norm. Many higher end premium cars - especially with big engines, start with big alloy sizes.

Overall I think that the suspension has been R&D for future Porsche cars that will weigh above 2,200kg. A 1379kg 911 ST will unlikely need this 5-6k EUR suspension option.

 

[dalab]

Is the app available to owners or is it just a demo feature for the press.

What??!!, I want that magic app.!, the car doesn't interest me at all ..lol

Overall I think that the suspension has been R&D for future Porsche cars that will weigh above 2,200kg. A 1379kg 911 ST will unlikely need this 5-6k EUR suspension option.

Well thought out, resulting technology applied in the wake of the wave of weight that fell on modern cars

 

[Rolf]

It sought of works in the same way as the E-Active Body Control on the GLE and GLE Mercedes models where each wheel movement can be controlled by driver and they tilt inside corners like a bike. Flatter over bumps.

 

[dalab]

It sought of works in the same way as the E-Active Body Control on the GLE and GLE Mercedes models where each wheel movement can be controlled by driver and they tilt inside corners like a bike. Flatter over bumps.

Great application of digital technology brought to the most physical and analogue terrain possible, making a car jump just to get out of situations that only a crane should get you out of, is remarkable and all brands should pay the patent to Mercedes and/or Porsche to have it, although I don't go to the Sahara Desert much so to speak

 

[Moctecus]

It sought of works in the same way as the E-Active Body Control on the GLE and GLE Mercedes models where each wheel movement can be controlled by driver and they tilt inside corners like a bike. Flatter over bumps.

The basic functionality is the same since they are using different generations of the same technology based around motor pump units by RAPA. Mercedes are using Gen I, Porsche Gen II.
Apart from that the main difference between their suspension systems is that only the Mercedes system features road-scanning technology to proactively adjust the suspension for maximum comfort.