7 Series (G70) [Official] New BMW 7-Series / i7 (G70/G71)

[domleo999]

RR interior to me looks dated and too simplistic.

Much prefer the previous gen intergrated screen and climate screen.

7er interior is sublime

 

[klier]

RR interior to me looks dated and too simplistic.

7er interior is sublime

RR interior is nice, but doesn't hold a candle to the exterior, and isn't anything special to me. 7er interior looks eons better.

 

[klugscheisser87]

RR interior is nice, but doesn't hold a candle to the exterior, and isn't anything special to me. 7er interior looks eons better.

In that battle let’s be objective.
As much I like the new 7er, it just can’t hold on with the RR. I even think the same about the S-Class, where on every point it’s far from descret or clean premium

 

[klier]

In that battle let’s be objective.

Let's be objective in stating an OPINION, sure. What a joke.

In my completely subjective opinion, the 7er looks two classes more premium. And that interior shot you posted of the 7er is pretty wild in that color setting, so congrats on being 'objective'

 

[MAJESTIC]

In that battle let’s be objective.
As much I like the new 7er, it just can’t hold on with the RR. I even think the same about the S-Class, where on every point it’s far from descret or clean premium

The BMW almost appears cheap/amateur/gimmicky compared to the clean and crisp modernity of the Range Rover. I honestly do not believe BMW can create an interior on par with the Range Rover; it's by far one of the best luxury automobile interiors at the moment (others being the Bentley Flying Spur and Continental GT).

 

[dalab]

In that battle let’s be objective.

And that interior shot you posted of the 7er is pretty wild in that color setting,

With these better, more in tone, in addition to the fact that depending on your mood you can change the entire interpretation of the dashboard

 

[dalab]

The BMW almost appears cheap/amateur/gimmicky compared

Ok, the 7 looks more modern tecno luxo we would say, more advanced in a word
Do not misunderstand me, the RR dashboard is also a gem

 

[SCOTT27]

i7 at the SO/ Berlin Das Stue.

 

[klugscheisser87]

With these better, more in tone, in addition to the fact that depending on your mood you can change the entire interpretation of the dashboard

Find a spec without that plastic disco bar and maybe it will work. The rest is nice and minimalistic, but the patterns and the acrylic thing are destroying the premium feeling.

 

[dalab]

Find a spec without that plastic disco bar and maybe it will work. The rest is nice and minimalistic, but the patterns and the acrylic thing are destroying the premium feeling.

You are talking about the soul of that dashboard, that detail is what makes it what it is, fresh and different, more modern than the rest, it scored a goal against the pigeonholing of the ambient light in the other constructors that led to them sometimes seeming "fancy" night clubs.

Maybe you should see it in person, I'm not saying that it makes you change your mind, but better seeing, touching, feeling and knowing, I didn't see it, but with the photos and videos in the studio and outdoors I have enough information

 

[J.E]

God I miss the G12...

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[dalab]

As always the general impression is very much in the details, the union of the rear fixed "triangles" with the window is imperceptible compared to all or almost the current sedans (at least the German ones) in which this black Mini pillar is protruding and wide on the outside, somehow in the 7 and in the iX they managed to make the noticeable part (necessary to keep the windows aligned), go only inside, similar to the glasshouse of the new Range Rover with its flush windows.

To the 7 series, it gives that special touch that "is not seen" but that makes a gasshouse without interruptions, it involves more engineering than it seems

It is (not) clearly perceived:

 

[dalab]

God I miss the G12...

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I didn't move a hair when I saw it for the first time, I felt that I defended (but not much), the indefensible, a very brief evolution of its predecessor, where the most avant garde was the gesture control, is the design beautiful? it can be, but forgettable, only the LCI saved it

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I didn't move a hair when I saw it for the first time, I felt that I defended (but not much), the indefensible, a very brief evolution of its predecessor, where the most avant garde was the gesture control, is the design beautiful? it can be, but forgettable, only the LCI saved it

What novel technology is this new 7 bringing to the table? I have asked this question multiple times. The silence has me thinking the 7 is bereft of any real genuine advancement not already offered by competitors. In fact its still missing key technologies that the S-class has.

 

[dalab]

What novel technology is this new 7 bringing to the table? I have asked this question multiple times. The silence has me thinking the 7 is bereft of any real genuine advancement not already offered by competitors. In fact its still missing key technologies that the S-class has

I talked more about the design of the predecessor , which seemed like a step backwards to me, I'm picky, so I'll remember it for that isolated fact, very interesting but... the car didn't stand out, by the way the S still doesn't have gesture control....

The new one, what is being talked about is precisely the rupture of design and its innovativeness.
Advances or technological advances?
It has everything you can think of for the next 10 years
Level 3 etc etc, I think we would have to see the list, the LCI will change color with the thought etc.

My point is that this car from what I see is thought to go beyond gimmicks, it is a technological force that is ICE and EV and is good at both, (which I hope we will discover soon)

If it's a competition with the S, well the S bends the rear wheels to a greater degree, I'll give you that, (the E32 already had the rear steering), this one has the suspension of the Ghost, and things that will make it a better car , so I think the topic today goes elsewhere

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I talked more about the design of the predecessor , which seemed like a step backwards to me, I'm picky, so I'll remember it for that isolated fact, very interesting but... the car didn't stand out, by the way the S still It doesn't have gesture control....

The new one, what is being talked about is precisely the rupture of design and its innovativeness.
Advances or technological advances?
It has everything you can think of for the next 10 years
Level 3 etc etc, I think we would have to see the list, the LCI will change color with the thought etc.

My point is that this car from what I see is thought to go beyond gimmicks, it is a technological force that is ICE and EV and is good at both, (which I hope we will discover soon)

If it's a competition with the S, well the S bends the rear wheels to a greater degree, I'll give you that, (the E32 already had the rear steering), this one has the suspension of the Ghost, and things that will make it a better car , so I think the topic today goes elsewhere

1. It does not have augmented reality.
2. It does not have digital light projection capabilities.
3. It does not have the interior assistance capabilities of the S (being able to recognise which mirror the driver is looking at, that the driver has turned around to reverse etc.).
4. It does not have the same degree of voice intelligence and visual feedback that the latest MBUX system integrates.
5.. BMW has not released any information about innovative production and manufacturing techniques such as the S-class chassis which is filled with expandable foam during the production process to seal micro sources of NVH.

The new 7 just seems like the same old formula they have used for the last 2 generations, with a whole lot of controversial design and bling thrown in to try to add some sizzle. At least the E65 was genuinely innovative in certain respects.

 

[Serpens]

I talked more about the design of the predecessor , which seemed like a step backwards to me, I'm picky, so I'll remember it for that isolated fact, very interesting but... the car didn't stand out, by the way the S still doesn't have gesture control....

The new one, what is being talked about is precisely the rupture of design and its innovativeness.
Advances or technological advances?
It has everything you can think of for the next 10 years
Level 3 etc etc, I think we would have to see the list, the LCI will change color with the thought etc.

My point is that this car from what I see is thought to go beyond gimmicks, it is a technological force that is ICE and EV and is good at both, (which I hope we will discover soon)

If it's a competition with the S, well the S bends the rear wheels to a greater degree, I'll give you that, (the E32 already had the rear steering), this one has the suspension of the Ghost, and things that will make it a better car , so I think the topic today goes elsewhere

The S-class does have gesture control.

 

[Ghost1]

In that battle let’s be objective.
As much I like the new 7er, it just can’t hold on with the RR. I even think the same about the S-Class, where on every point it’s far from descret or clean premium

The RR's exterior is a masterpiece. But that architecture inside looks a lil bit dated to me. I mean it is good, but they should have made smth really special to match its exterior.

 

[dalab]

1. It does not have augmented reality.
2. It does not have digital light projection capabilities.
3. It does not have the interior assistance capabilities of the S (being able to recognise which mirror the driver is looking at, that the driver has turned around to reverse etc.).
4. It does not have the same degree of voice intelligence and visual feedback that the latest MBUX system integrates.
5.. BMW has not released any information about innovative production and manufacturing techniques such as the S-class chassis which is filled with expandable foam during the production process to seal micro sources of NVH.

The new 7 just seems like the same old formula they have used for the last 2 generations, with a whole lot of controversial design and bling thrown in to try to add some sizzle. At least the E65 was genuinely innovative in certain respects.

1. It does not have augmented reality.
It has I think, I even understand it is in the HUD, the 2 series AT has it, please confirm

2. It does not have digital light projection capabilities.
It has new Laser, nobody cares about projecting movies on the road

3. It does not have the interior assistance capabilities of the S (being able to recognise which mirror the driver is looking at, that the driver has turned around to reverse etc.).
It has a light carpet that moves like dancing on the floor so you can see in the dark and be happier

4. It does not have the same degree of voice intelligence and visual feedback that the latest MBUX system integrates.
That's just not true, did you try both systems?

5.. BMW has not released any information about innovative production and manufacturing techniques such as the S-class chassis which is filled with expandable foam during the production process to seal micro sources of NVH.
I always wanted to have a car filled with expandable foam, is it good for shaving? check my post above about window triangles

6. The new 7 just seems like the same old formula they have used for the last 2 generations, with a whole lot of controversial design and bling thrown in to try to add some sizzle. At least the E65 was genuinely innovative in certain respects.
I agree with that last words

I'll throw the first one that comes to mind, the S has...? The Planar Suspension Sistem from the Ghost? features a world-first Upper Wishbone Damper Unit for the front suspension, (shock absorbers on shock absorbers...) the 7 has it.

Without much fanfare it will be a better car, perhaps

 

[dalab]

The S-class does have gesture control.

Always copying and late...