A-Class (W177) 2018 Mercedes-Benz A-Class spy shots and rumors


The W177 hatchback was launched in 2018 as the successor to the W176 Mercedes-Benz A-Class. It is available as a 5-door hatchback (W177 model code), 4-door sedan (V177), and a long-wheelbase sedan exclusive to China (Z177).
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But it is. The interior finish in Audi is light years after Daimler.
I worked many years at Daimler and BMW. Only Mercedes is buying A-class leather, both BMW and Audi only b-class leather.
If you go on www.mobile.de and checkt out 20 of audis with 200.000 km and 20 Mercs, you will see what i mean. The audi letaher looks like the car has 500.000 km (!)
Also other materials, details, space/sprang, even the contrast stitching is not so fine and precise like in an Daimler.
So no, i cant agree to that that audi is class leader in interior quality & finish. Never.

No disrespect but I see certain inconsistencies in your claims. The crucial question may be in which department you worked at Daimler and BMW. I also worked for both and various others and your points are at least misleading.
My major reservation is about that leather thing. First of all, that is not a fit and finish topic. It is a quality and by your definition (200000 k vehicles) a long-term quality issue. When it comes to that you are right as long as you talk about the S- and G-class, or some older Daimler models. But I was not referring to that. What also struck me is that OEMs don't order leather anymore, at least they don't in substantial quantities for their mass production vehicles. The dashboard units come finished, as do the door cards or the seats. Of course, all of those can be specified and ordered in different qualities but the margins in basic materials are not that substantial. Where the differences are massive is in structural complexity and detailing, i.e. flexibility within the cycle, ventilation (mostly of displays and electronics), physical/non-physical pressure points, tolerance etc. With regard to those aspects, I have to respectfully disagree with you. Moreover, a set phrase like 'lightyears behind' does not make it any more credible. Just take a seat in a current A-class and an A3 and repeat that ...
 
If you go on www.mobile.de and checkt out 20 of audis with 200.000 km and 20 Mercs, you will see what i mean. The audi letaher looks like the car has 500.000 km (!)
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Looking at photos of @Mick Briesgau 's S class with over 200 000km, the interior and the leather looks almost brand new still. Btw where can we find more information about leather quality classification for automotive trim? How do they determine which is class A, or B and what are the price differences between them?
 
Btw where can we find more information about leather quality classification for automotive trim? How do they determine which is class A, or B and what are the price differences between them?
That is pretty classified information :) so it is hard to find online (afaik). However, the strict 'class A vs. class B' dichotomy is obsolete. Most OEMs have defined at least 30 criteria/dimensions based on which they define and choose the 'right' leather for the respective use case. I know that for some OEMs one criterium is sustainability. Of course, leathers scoring high on that variable will come with certain disadvantages regarding color intensity, color stability, shading, or cracking. But that is not the core of fit and finish.
Best chances to find out more about those topics is to take a look at supplier pages, such as Dräxlmaier, Faurecia, or Adient. One or the other of those may even send you marketing materials (excl. prices ;)).
 
But it is. The interior finish in Audi is light years after Daimler.
I worked many years at Daimler and BMW. Only Mercedes is buying A-class leather, both BMW and Audi only b-class leather.
If you go on www.mobile.de and checkt out 20 of audis with 200.000 km and 20 Mercs, you will see what i mean. The audi letaher looks like the car has 500.000 km (!)
Also other materials, details, space/sprang, even the contrast stitching is not so fine and precise like in an Daimler.
So no, i cant agree to that that audi is class leader in interior quality & finish. Never.
What leather manufacturers are the three using and what do you mean with a- and b- class leather?
Do you have any data/info from Draxlmaier?
 
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The side profile reminds me of the GLC...And that is a GREAT thing! Definitely will be one of the best looking hatches out there, and it’s a damn shame they won’t sell these Stateside! The interior is exquisite! The looks are mind blowing, and the A45 with an aero package will make this thing flawless!
 
I like the design as I did on the current A class , I just hope that the quality of the interior will match the design this time around.
 
MB really seem to have thrown a hell lot in to the new interior, it looks almost too classy for its own good in some ways for example the crisp new detailing of the controls or the generous trim on the dashboard all scream very high end...
 
It seems to have jumped a level. But let's see what the A140d in base entry looks like.

Rather worry about the base 1 series..Why is it that you always come with negative comments in the MB threads we all know you are the Scott or BMW PR machine but their is no need react negatively to every MB product.
 
Looks best in class in top spec and will look worst in class in lower spec.

The ride of current A class is bad, suspension is hard and not refined, that's what must be fixed in this new car.

1 series drives way better that the current A class and even though has a cheaper looking interior I think is better built underneath.
 
The worry/negativity obviously comes from the fact that the new generation of MB interiors are nice to look at but not necessarily very high in quality. I think I speak for some of us when I say that we'd prefer a more modest looking interior that is built well. Of course the verdict on the interior is still in the air, but as Merc1 mentioned an A-Class is an A-class. Quality is expensive and margins are important, you can do the math.
 
The worry/negativity obviously comes from the fact that the new generation of MB interiors are nice to look at but not necessarily very high in quality. I think I speak for some of us when I say that we'd prefer a more modest looking interior that is built well. Of course the verdict on the interior is still in the air, but as Merc1 mentioned an A-Class is an A-class. Quality is expensive and margins are important, you can do the math.

I think Mercedes is making a calculated bet. The younger buyer that typically aspires to own these bottom rung models in the Benz hierarchy might not think that way.
 
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my combo would be like THIS:

Exterior color: mojave silver
Interior color: (i dont see the name) but some leather/fabric blue color
Elements: aluminium liner structure bright
Steeringwheel: AMG
Package (interior,exterieur,seats,alloys): AMG

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That Yellow! A real 70's throwback LOL
 
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