Poll The BIG DEBATE (Part 2) - BMW 7 Series (G70) vs Mercedes S-Class (W223)
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Clickbait, a separate contact video edition, does not provide a real comparison
I finally saw the new 7er outside my friends' condo.
It doesn`t look as large in the metal as it does in photos and is as attractive as a blowfish with droopy eyes. It is not my thing at all!
With the RandD savings with this on a pure EV platform instead of a shared one, the designers could have come up with a reskinned version for the North American and European markets. It is just an ugly car IMO.
It doesn`t look as large in the metal as it does in photos and is as attractive as a blowfish with droopy eyes. It is not my thing at all!
With the RandD savings with this on a pure EV platform instead of a shared one, the designers could have come up with a reskinned version for the North American and European markets. It is just an ugly car IMO.
Finally!
Mick Briesgau
Tire Trailblazer
Thomas should get his facts right.
Wheelbase 7 = 3.215 meter.
Wheelbase S = 3.216 meter.
Wheelbase 7 = 3.215 meter.
Wheelbase S = 3.216 meter.
Mercedes needs that extra mm to squeeze in all those animal products Thomas doesn't like
Mick Briesgau
Tire Trailblazer
Mr. animal skinMercedes needs that extra mm to squeeze in all those animal products Thomas doesn't like
On a more serious note, he states several times the wheelbase of the 740d is longer than that of the S 580e. If it is, I have no problem with that, but in fact their wheelbase is almost exactly the same.
Mr. animal skin
On a more serious note, he states several times the wheelbase of the 740d is longer than that of the S 580e. If it is, I have no problem with that, but in fact their wheelbase is almost exactly the same.
I skipped through the video pretty quickly, but when discussing the length he references the 4 inches extra length translating 1:1 in the wheelbase, perhaps they were referring to the fact the BMW is only available as LWB, as the difference is 4 inches... but yeah, would be a rookie error for Thomas otherwise.
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It's frightening how agile and smoothly the S-Class corners with minimal steering input thanks to rear wheel steering.
Mick Briesgau
Tire Trailblazer
The effect of the 10 degree rear wheel steering, whilst driving faster than 60 km/h, is quite impressive indeed.It's frightening how agile and smoothly the S-Class corners with minimal steering input thanks to rear wheel steering.
It has taken BMW a brand new model after all this time to basically catch up to the S-Class and the S is still ahead in some tech and safety features, yet this is supposed to be a massive achievement. 
One key aspect Thomas did not cover is the menu-heavy I-Drive 8 vs. MBUX in the S-Class.
MBUX is more straightforward and intuitive with better setting options.
One key aspect Thomas did not cover is the menu-heavy I-Drive 8 vs. MBUX in the S-Class.
MBUX is more straightforward and intuitive with better setting options.
Massive achievement? maybe for the 500+ people or more involved in its development It would be the right words, since for example the last generation did not achieve it in any aspect.It has taken BMW a brand new model after all this time to basically catch up to the S-Class and the S is still ahead in some tech and safety features, yet this is supposed to be a massive achievement.
The 7 won the comparison, which is meritorious then, to lose it?
Very interesting comparison and verdict, this 7 series has taken a leap into S-class territory and majored on comfort and space, while the W223 is eating into BMW territory by still been a sporty car to drive despite still been a comfort king.
W223 vs G70 could be one of the closest matchups in S-class and 7-series history,
W223 vs G70 could be one of the closest matchups in S-class and 7-series history,
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