GT (C190) [Spy shots] Mercedes-Benz AMG GT (C190)

[GTA45E]

Still don't know what to make of this car though. Another semi, but not quite sports car just isn't needed. If this is a true 911 competitor it is going to have to drive much better than the SLS ever did (aside from the Black Series version), because the basic SLS is something of a mess in the handling department if the press is anything to go by. I also don't want a mini SLS in styling either. Time to break out and do something different.

M

You have a point there Merc1.
My thoughts were, this should have been the formula and design for the 2013 SL. Sure would have been interesting because this design was it`s original formula back in the 50s (front-mid engine, long nose, light weight exc) Mercedes actually turned the SL into a luxury cruiser sometime in the late 60s- 70s. The SL should have gone back to its roots with something like this.

 

[Merc1]

You have a point there Merc1.
My thoughts were, this should have been the formula and design for the 2013 SL. Sure would have been interesting because this design was it`s original formula back in the 50s (front-mid engine, long nose, light weight exc) Mercedes actually turned the SL into a luxury cruiser sometime in the late 60s- 70s. The SL should have gone back to its roots with something like this.

I said that too a while back, but I think the market has been too developed for for the current SL formula for them to go back, which is maybe why they're doing this car.

M

 

[DjordjeC63]

How would you fuse two I4 engines to make a V8 one?
2 x VR4 for a W8... OK! 4 x VR4 for a W16... OK!
2 x VR6 for a W12... OK! But an I4 to V8... by "fusing" !?

Why not? They are making V engine not W. If you ''fuse'' two V4s you will get W8. If you fuse two I4s, you will get V8.

 

[mini_cooper4]

Why not? They are making V engine not W. If you ''fuse'' two V4s you will get W8. If you fuse two I4s, you will get V8.

Hmmm, no! 2x V doesn't make a W
2 x VR makes a W.
Do you know what's an I configuration and a V configuration?
I'm just asking as it would make it easier for me to explain it further to you

 

[DjordjeC63]

LOL, ofcourse that I know what is I and V configuration.

btw. I was talking about imaginary W8 engine (not about that one in Passat) that could be made by joining together 2 V4s...

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

...because the basic SLS is something of a mess in the handling department if the press is anything to go by.
M

I haven't read a single review that suggested that. Complaints about the ride quality yes, but a handling mess, never. And the ride quality issue was addressed with the adaptive suspension introduced with the roadster.

 

[Merc1]

I haven't read a single review that suggested that. Complaints about the ride quality yes, but a handling mess, never. And the ride quality issue was addressed with the adaptive suspension introduced with the roadster.

I would suggest you check around, and for 2013 the U.S. market SLS GT too away the Comfort mode so the ride is as hard and uncomfortable as ever, but grip is lacking per the test I've seen.

M

 

[mini_cooper4]

LOL, ofcourse that I know what is I and V configuration.

btw. I was talking about imaginary W8 engine (not about that one in Passat) that could be made by joining together 2 V4s...

The W configuration is the result of two VR configured engines and not of two V-shaped ones
Since you know what an I and a V configuration is you should know that I4 + I4 = I8 not a V8
I don't even know who's the guy that came with that BS in the first place...

 

[Sunny]

The W configuration is the result of two VR configured engines and not of two V-shaped ones
Since you know what an I and a V configuration is you should know that I4 + I4 = I8 not a V8
I don't even know who's the guy that came with that BS in the first place...

Well, that depends on how you join them - end to end you get a I8. Side to side you get a V8. Of course you will need a new crankshaft/case etc, so probably not exactly economical. I know there is a V8 made by joining 2 Hayabusa I4s together -

Similarly BMW's M70 V12 is 2 x M20 I6s joined at 60 degrees.

 

[mini_cooper4]

Well, that depends on how you join them - end to end you get a I8. Side to side you get a V8. Of course you will need a new crankshaft/case etc, so probably not exactly economical. I know there is a V8 made by joining 2 Hayabusa I4s together -

Similarly BMW's M70 V12 is 2 x M20 I6s joined at 60 degrees.

Yes, that's obvious but after having to change that much you can no longer call the I4 the same engine.
So "fusing" 2 i4s ain't the case at all.

 

[DjordjeC63]

The W configuration is the result of two VR configured engines and not of two V-shaped ones
Since you know what an I and a V configuration is you should know that I4 + I4 = I8 not a V8
I don't even know who's the guy that came with that BS in the first place...

Sunny explained it very well Ariel Atom V8 has engine made from those I4s of Hayabusa, so you can make V8 with two I4s. You could also make W engine with two V engines, but VR is more compact compared to V engine so Volkswagen made W engine with VRs.

 

[MBFanToDeath]

 

[W201]

At first glance, it looks remarkably like (some version) of the 911.

 

[LaArtist]

^ i was about to say the same.

Is this really the SLC for GT6 or is it a fantasy car like that BMW thing?

 

[W201]

It could be fantasy: Mercedes-Benz GT2-RS

 

[Amat46]

SLC Vs F Type coupe

 

[Wolfgang]

An update.

Mercedes-Benz SLC/GT C190 Caught While Being Tested

The Mercedes-Benz C190 project is getting near its launch date, which will most likely happen at the Paris Motor Show in 2014, and the Germans are still hard at work testing pre-production prototypes of the model.

The first low-budget supercar in Mercedes-Benz history is set to eat a slice of the Porsche 911 and the upcoming Jaguar F-Type Coupe pie, with its pricing to start at around 110,000 Euros for the twin turbocharged V8 model.

We say this because the car is most likely to also offer a twin-turbocharged V6 as a base version, which is set to cost around 80,000 Euros.

The M177 twin-turbocharged V8 is currently being developed by AMG to eventually replace both the M156 6.2-liter normally aspirated V8 and the M157 5.5-liter twin-turbocharged V8. Made by essentially fusing two M133 four-cylinders from the A 45 AMG together, the new V8 will offer a power range between around 485 hp for the baby SLS to almost 600 hp for its Black Series version and even more for the S 63 AMG facelift in about four years.

According to our exclusive report from a few weeks ago (hooray for quoting ourselves!), a version of the C190's aluminium platform will also be used by Aston Martin to completely replace their aging VH architecture.

http://www.autoevolution.com/merced...t-while-being-tested-photo-gallery-67260.html

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Will be very interesting to see the design of this car. The rear borrows heavily from the S-Coupe Concept.

Given it's price point, I wonder if it will become a staple in the model range.

 

[W201]

That front plastic bumper cover is a bit AstonMartin-esque, don't you think?

Still makes me wonder - is it possible that SLS is not profitable? First there was SLR, then there was SLS, and soon to come is SLC - every model more cheaper than the previous one. Could it be that demand in the SLS-segment is shrinking? I'm a bit puzzled why AMG does not expand its own cars portfolio...

 

[Wolfgang]

^ Looks like there may be an SLS successor, just not directly one after the other.


When questions turned to the higher, proper sports car end of the AMG business, Kallenius confirmed that not only will the brand eventually produce a next-generation flagship to replace the SLS AMG, others are also in the pipeline, such as the smaller, 911-challenging SLC-Class spied here.

“We probably won’t do a ‘Volkswagen Golf 5, 6, 7′ with the SLS because of the unique Gullwing doors and so on and so forth. It’s not something you just do one after the other. “I am not suggesting we should wait 55 years to do the next gullwing car, but certainly not straight after the one we have done now. That needs to sit in automotive history as its own chapter.”

Kallenius stated that “there will be more stand-alone sports cars from Affalterbach”, which all but confirms the long-spied SLC-Class, smaller sibling to the SLS AMG and codenamed C190, will make production.

http://www.germancarforum.com/commu...brate-45-year-anniversary-tease-future.44764/