Range Rover [Official] Gen 5 Range Rover

[Amat46]

^^still not as Chinese as the XM

 

[BMW4ever]

^^still not as Chinese as the XM

And that's its problem. Follow the money.

 

[BMW4ever]

While BMW is probably batting off orders pouring in for the 'tasteful' XM from the new global masters in China, India, The Gulf, and Asia. cooing over its sumptuous gaudiness, tasteless displaying of money, in the UK, 'owners' of 'the best car/thing ever' - greedy, stupid flippers - are being carted off to the burns unit - readvertised, obviously still unsold:

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The thicko greedy 'owner' hasn't got it through his head yet that UK's 'economy' has gone, and no one is buying 10-15 mpg around town, 3 ton mobile money incinerators anymore, in Truss's Madhouse UK.

Pistonheads is also chocka with 'owners' of Defenders' suddenly realising they need to move them on, after 30-1,500 miles, 1 day to 3 months of 'ownership', for very similar cloud cuckoo land asking prices.

I think we should have a whipround, GoFundMe for them.

 

[SCOTT27]

Seems to be popular on the Russian Black Market.

It’s interesting that in Britains moment of turmoil. There are the factions of British public that fail to acknowledge the more serious failure of the Euro. And how do some people still not accept the Euro is created by Germans for Germany. All eyes are on Credit Suisse and Deutsche bank about to be which in terms to describe it for non financial German friends. It’s like being on the Titanic you survive the sinking only to land on an island full of Randy badgers.

 

[BMW4ever]

Seems to be popular on the Russian Black Market.

Seems identical to that car on Pistonheads in Hertfordshire. Has the flipper done an insurance job, had it 'stolen' by an Albanian gang and dumped in Moscow?

 

[SCOTT27]

Sunrise Copper Satin.

 

[BMW4ever]

So:

- the real weight, even with just a weedy driver on board, is closer to 3 tonnes than 2.5
- the 'uber-luxury', floats down the road thing is largely a function of making the springs so soft, that it launches like a see-saw, nose pointing to the sky, and
- the gear changes at full throttle are horrendous - huge power cut, no spark, huge lurching, kangarooing - see 7:12

- other than that, 'Best Car/Thing in the World Ever'

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[SCOTT27]

So:

- the real weight, even with just a weedy driver on board, is closer to 3 tonnes than 2.5
- the 'uber-luxury', floats down the road thing is largely a function of making the springs so soft, that it launches like a see-saw, nose pointing to the sky, and
- the gear changes at full throttle are horrendous - huge power cut, no spark, huge lurching, kangarooing - see 7:12

- other than that, 'Best Car/Thing in the World Ever'

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Aren’t these more rivals for the imminent Range Rover Sport SVR?
I don’t see Range Rover owners burning rubber up drag strips or indeed worrying about the weight.

 

[LaArtist]

So has anyone here driven this thing ?
I drove the previous model and my god it was such a horrible piece of shit to drive. I’ve never ever driven something that leans like that unless it was a pre 80s car.
totally horrible and despite the lean it’s not even particularly comfortable. Just a total piece of shit. I wonder if this is better..

 

[BMW4ever]

Aren’t these more rivals for the imminent Range Rover Sport SVR?
I don’t see Range Rover owners burning rubber up drag strips or indeed worrying about the weight.

the Bentley, no - direct - couldn't be more so.

Just shows that even BMW's engine and probably some engineering input can't overcome horrendous mass and size - I'll bet 2.7 tonnes unladen. That car is a whale - huge - offensively big on UK roads - wide, and poor visibility ahead for following drivers.

I am surprised, though, at its poor engineering/development. It was outsourced to Bosch Engineering, who you would think would know how to do full-throttle gear changes.

 

[Centurion]

So has anyone here driven this thing ?
I drove the previous model and my god it was such a horrible piece of shit to drive. I’ve never ever driven something that leans like that unless it was a pre 80s car.
totally horrible and despite the lean it’s not even particularly comfortable. Just a total piece of shit. I wonder if this is better..

This segment of cars isn't my favorite. Had the previous gen X5 as a loaned once. Both my Ex and I found the ride too floaty and motion sickness inducing. The same was true when we used a friend's previous gen full fat RR for a week.

However I believe that newer models in this segment have fancy anti rollbars and three chamber air suspension that improves body control.

 

[LaArtist]

This segment of cars isn't my favorite. Had the previous gen X5 as a loaned once. Both my Ex and I found the ride too floaty and motion sickness inducing. The same was true when we used a friend's previous gen full fat RR for a week.

However I believe that newer models in this segment have fancy anti rollbars and three chamber air suspension that improves body control.

I’ll have to try it someday.

 

[BMW4ever]

And this is before Friday/the weekend - bank holiday? - when the bottom falls out completely of either UK govt debt, and hence mortgage rates to the moon - BTL landlords burned - or the £, if the printing resumes, to bail out pension funds and mortgage holders :

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Manufacturer:
LAND ROVER
Model:
RANGE ROVER ESTATE - 3.0 P400 Autobiography LWB 4dr Auto [7 Seat]
Year:
2022
Colour:
Blue
Transmission:
Automatic
Engine Size:
3000
First Registered:
01/09/2022
(WBAC)Your valuation
£128,220

- what's £50k between friends?

 

[Centurion]

And this is before Friday/the weekend - bank holiday? - when the bottom falls out completely of either UK govt debt, and hence mortgage rates to the moon - BTL landlords burned - or the £, if the printing resumes, to bail out pension funds and mortgage holders :

Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale

Find your next car with Auto Trader UK, the official #1 site to buy and sell new and used cars. Over 400,000 cars online. Simple, easy, quick!

www.autotrader.co.uk

Manufacturer:
LAND ROVER
Model:
RANGE ROVER ESTATE - 3.0 P400 Autobiography LWB 4dr Auto [7 Seat]
Year:
2022
Colour:
Blue
Transmission:
Automatic
Engine Size:
3000
First Registered:
01/09/2022
(WBAC)Your valuation
£128,220

- what's £50k between friends?

That's the most ambition flip that I have come across. On CollectingCars, final bids for the new RR is roughly £130k and that's in resale spec black on black.

 

[BMW4ever]

camera/perspective distortion yes, but that's horrible - size, colour, behemothness, everything

The grace, rightness, Range Rover-ness of Classic Range Rover and L322 have gone. Not even a pastiche. More like a mockery.

reminds me of this:

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[SCOTT27]

camera/perspective distortion yes, but that's horrible - size, colour, behemothness, everything

The grace, rightness, Range Rover-ness of Classic Range Rover and L322 have gone. Not even a pastiche. More like a mockery.

reminds me of this:

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Vibrant. In the right sunlight that colour would probably pop. Under a grey sky it’s kind of dull.
Still a magnificent looking machine though.

 

[BMW4ever]

Vibrant. In the right sunlight that colour would probably pop. Under a grey sky it’s kind of dull.
Still a magnificent looking machine though.

When all else fails, wheel out Cliveden, the subliminal association with billionaire Astors.

Black helps, and normal wheelbase - the LWB above looks like the commercial/van version - just needs a solid panel and some signwriting - 'Bloggs and sons windowcleaning:

But what's going on with that rear glazed panel? Is that standard, how they all look? Without black tinted windows it Looks like a porthole, or someone cut out a hole in a binliner.

Tragic, cheap looking , and odd.

What was wrong with a proper D pillar, instead of glazing over it, and using that awful blanking?

 

[Centurion]

Black helps, and normal wheelbase - the LWB above looks like the commercial/van version - just needs a solid panel and some signwriting - 'Bloggs and sons windowcleaning:

Speaking of vans, are you aware that the new Defender, depending on configuration, qualify as a van or people carrier? This makes it cheap to lease under a business for part business and part personal use.

It's similar to how some SUVs and pickups in the US classify as light trucks instead of passenger cars. This comes with a range of benefits from a tax and emissions point of view.

 

[Serpens]

Vibrant. In the right sunlight that colour would probably pop. Under a grey sky it’s kind of dull.
Still a magnificent looking machine though.

Wow that back window looks awful. Tint should be mandatory.

 

[martinbo]

But what's going on with that rear glazed panel? Is that standard, how they all look? Without black tinted windows it Looks like a porthole, or someone cut out a hole in a binliner.

Tragic, cheap looking , and odd.

What was wrong with a proper D pillar, instead of glazing over it, and using that awful blanking?

Y'know, I've never noticed that until you pointed it out. Thanks!
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