M3/M4 Official: BMW (E92) M3

[Zafiro]

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People were saying the exact same thing about the 997 Turbo when it was released.

and look what happen , a outsider Z06 beat the car on every track and its also faster. Same thing will happen with C63 and M3 V8. what a shame.

 

[EnI]

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I know what is happening ...

Car journalists are getting older and consequently more grumpier ... And extremely nostalgic.


"Oh, the good old days ..."

"Oh, the good old (insert any product) was so much better than this new one ..."

"Oh, things were much more natural & genuine few decades ago ..."

 

[LaArtist]

Re: Official Information + Images: BMW M3 V8

I know what is happening ...

Car journalists are getting older and consequently more grumpier ... And extremely nostalgic.


"Oh, the good old days ..."

"Oh, the good old (insert any product) was so much better than this new one ..."

"Oh, things were much more natural & genuine few decades ago ..."

^lol i hope thats a joke..
i hope your not blameing the journalists for this..

 

[klier]

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Get real Rik, you never read such things about M3 E46. Its a disaster to read this, an icon is gone and it hurts badly. Give me the new CSL already tomorrow, looks like the M3 need it to restore some faith to me. Even C63 got more praise in reviews than the new M3.

You actually read exactly the same thing in the first drives of the E46 M3 compared to the old and tested E36 M3.

But whatever. Go hug the C63. I'll buy you some drag racing tickets too

and look what happen , a outsider Z06 beat the car on every track and its also faster. Same thing will happen with C63 and M3 V8. what a shame.

Aaah, ok. So the C63 is the Z06 and the M3 is the 997 Turbo.
That's PERFECTLY fine with me.

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Official Information + Images: BMW M3 V8

Just a few more details about the performance of the new M3. BMW published at the press conference a 0-1000km time of 23.3 seconds.

This compares with the latest M5 Touring which they quote 22.9 seconds for. The M5 Saloon is quoted at 22.7 seconds.

They also quote a 80-120 km/h figure in 4th gear of 4.9 seconds which compares with the 5.2 seconds they quote for the 335i.

The M3 CSL numbers were 23.5 and 5.0 seconds.

The E46 M3 numbers were 24.2 and 5.3 seconds.

 

[FC123]

Re: Official Information + Images: BMW M3 V8

Would actually like to know, the 80-120 times for the 335i and various M's in 5. and 6. gear.

 

[LaArtist]

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im just wondering..giving the initiall reports on the M3..do you guys still belive that with same Hp..and 20nm less than the RS4..
the M3 will still clipp its N-Ring Time?

 

[Centurion]

Re: Official Information + Images: BMW M3 V8

I know what is happening ...

Car journalists are getting older and consequently more grumpier ... And extremely nostalgic.


"Oh, the good old days ..."

"Oh, the good old (insert any product) was so much better than this new one ..."

"Oh, things were much more natural & genuine few decades ago ..."

I don't think that some journalists hate the car but are disappointed. It seem like BMW might have altered the M3 formula a bit which can have been a big mistake. There is nothing more difficult than to develop a successor for an icon but what's best is to follow the number one guide line "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". We have to remember that most journalist will first and foremost compare the car to the E46 rather than the competitors.

Now I can't wait for E46 M3 vs E90 M3 comparisons.

The E46 M3 has become the bench mark for the M experience and most people won't expect anything tamer from the new M3.

 

[Zafiro]

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im just wondering..giving the initiall reports on the M3..do you guys still belive that with same Hp..and 20nm less than the RS4..
the M3 will still clipp its N-Ring Time?

not so sure, again the RS4 is using semi-R-tires, M3 is not.

 

[LaArtist]

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^why not.. i dont understand that.. seems that the C63 will also have R-tires..
and BMW has special made tires wich i read in one of these reviews are not so good.. and he wanted to drive it on normal tires..

whats up with that?
whats the M philosophy behind that?
Eni ?? Scott?? anyone??

 

[klier]

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whats up with that?
whats the M philosophy behind that?
Eni ?? Scott?? anyone??

lol, I don't know. BMW should put these tyres on the M3 too maybe

 

[ILC32]

Re: Official Information + Images: BMW M3 V8

Just a few more details about the performance of the new M3. BMW published at the press conference a 0-1000km time of 23.3 seconds.

This compares with the latest M5 Touring which they quote 22.9 seconds for. The M5 Saloon is quoted at 22.7 seconds.

They also quote a 80-120 km/h figure in 4th gear of 4.9 seconds which compares with the 5.2 seconds they quote for the 335i.

The M3 CSL numbers were 23.5 and 5.0 seconds.

The E46 M3 numbers were 24.2 and 5.3 seconds.

I posted this on M3forum a little while ago:

I am having trouble finding times for 0-1000 for competitors. But from what I can tell, the time is respectable. So far I have seen:

RS4: 24.0 and 23.7
360 Modena: 23.4
Vanquish 23.2
E55: 22.7
997 GT3: 22.9
McClaren F1: 19.6

See Just_Me, ITS GOING TO BE ALRIGHT MAN. STEP AWAY FROM THE MB.

 

[LaArtist]

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here is a kick ass video.. dont know if its been posted..car sounds very nice..
and looks.. hmm better than on the pics atleast..

BMW Reminder: M3 Ahead of Frankfurt Show - Jalopnik

 

[Zafiro]

Re: Official Information + Images: BMW M3 V8

The new M3 is claimed to have a topspeed of 200mph without limiter (320km/h).
Sounds to fast for a 420 hp car. For instance the RS4 dont even top over 300km/h, I've been told.

 

[RikfromBelgium]

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It's BMW man

 

[LaArtist]

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could be..cause the RS4 is 4wd.. they loose at higher speeds..
but 320.. you will need a damn long straight..and those last km´s will come slow..
especially when the M3 has less torque than a 335

 

[Zafiro]

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especially when the M3 has less torque than a 335

Nope, both has 400nm

 

[LaArtist]

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^ohh my bad...but still.. you all get my point..
what if the C350 and C63 had same torque..
well i would have an avatar like just me.. but reversed..i tell you that..

 

[RikfromBelgium]

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that's BS because the V8 delivers that torque in a totally different way than the 6 in line.

 

[Zafiro]

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^ohh my bad...but still.. you all get my point..
what if the C350 and C63 had same torque..
well i would have an avatar like just me.. but reversed..i tell you that..

torque isnt the problem with the new M3. 400nm from low revs to high revs from a N/A 4.0-cylinder engine isnt bad and its enough. The new V8 is probably a lot better than the old M3 E46 engine. So its not the torque that worries me about the new M3.