M3/M4 Official: BMW (E92) M3

[ILC32]

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Win? this is hardly a competition.

Have anyone figured out yet what kind of tires the new M3 is getting, is it semi r-tires or not?
Name of the tire is Michelin Pilot Sport...

It is hard to read the sidewall. There could be a "II" after the "Sport". The tread pattern looks like PS2 not PS1.

 

[PanterroR]

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Those are Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires... I have the same on my car(s)...

 

[wltsm]

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Guys, isn't this cf leather trim the same as in the Z4 M!

Not saying I like it though!

 

[Mr. M]

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BTW, does this engine have anything to do with the V8 in say, a 740Li?

 

[PanterroR]

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BTW, does this engine have anything to do with the V8 in say, a 740Li?

LOL, no, James... This is de-tuned engine from M5, 2 cyl less and lower displacement. If i'm not mistaken...

 

[LaArtist]

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Yeah, the CF on the zonda and the CL65, how much are these?
You can get a real CF trim as extra equipment, 1.220,30 € in Germany.

Best regards, south

well okay those are to expensive..but look at this. .the RS4 CF..looks ALOT better.. the thing is..
the BMW CF shown in that pic.. is real Carbon Fibre i belive..
but the diffrence is that BMW hasent put a gloss finish to it..
like all audi has done..
so thats why it in my eyes looks like plastic imitating CF.. and really dull

PS
What do you mean by real CF??

ohh and i know the pic sucks..but its the best i found..

 

[ILC32]

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Guys, isn't this cf leather trim the same as in the Z4 M!

Not saying I like it though!

Yes I think it is the same. I do not like it. But there are other alternatives!

 

[ILC32]

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Those are Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires... I have the same on my car(s)...

I have PS2 on my E46 M3.

One note: Unless I missed something (very possible given my lack of German), it does NOT appear that there is a special tire package (semi - R or whatever) offered in the German price list.

Can the car beat 8:09 without the semi-R tires such as Cups or Rossos?

I think the answer must be yes. Otherwise, I have to believe there would be an optional fitment for semi-Rs in the price guide.

 

[LaArtist]

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better picture to demonstrate the diffrence in finish of CF panels..

 

[wltsm]

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I get what you're saying artist, in that picture, the interior of the RS4 looks very stylish and expensive looking, very different to the M3!

 

[south]

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well okay those are to expensive..but look at this. .the RS4 CF..looks ALOT better.. the thing is..
the BMW CF shown in that pic.. is real Carbon Fibre i belive..
but the diffrence is that BMW hasent put a gloss finish to it..
like all audi has done..
so thats why it in my eyes looks like plastic imitating CF.. and really dull

PS
What do you mean by real CF??

ohh and i know the pic sucks..but its the best i found..


So it's no CF at all. If you want CF interior trim, you can get it as extra equipment (so it's a retrofit trim), costs you 1.220,30 € in Germany (page 13 on german price list). But I really do not know how that trim looks, maybe like the M3 Concept center console?
EDIT: here's a picture of the Concept center console:


Best regards, south

 

[ILC32]

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This trim is a leather trim with CF look:


So it's no CF at all. If you want CF interior trim, you can get it as extra equipment (so it's a retrofit trim), costs you 1.220,30 € in Germany (page 13 on german price list). But I really do not know how that trim looks, maybe like the M3 Concept center console?

Best regards, south

Correct. It is not CF in the picture. It is leather patterned somehow to look life CF. To me, it is sort of like using plastic printed to look like wood.

 

[LaArtist]

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This trim is a leather trim with CF look:


So it's no CF at all. If you want CF interior trim, you can get it as extra equipment (so it's a retrofit trim), costs you 1.220,30 € in Germany (page 13 on german price list). But I really do not know how that trim looks, maybe like the M3 Concept center console?
EDIT: here's a picture of the Concept center console:


Best regards, south

ohh okay.. if it looks like the concept..im very happy..
but this option with the leather looking like CF.. is like ruining your M3..i hope no one orders that

thnx for clearing that up man

 

[Gene]

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Correct. It is not CF in the picture. It is leather patterned somehow to look life CF. To me, it is sort of like using plastic printed to look like wood.

Agreed. This is reinforced through the fact that the leather is stitched (notice the stitching). I've never seen CF stitched like that before.

 

[RikfromBelgium]

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Correct. It is not CF in the picture. It is leather patterned somehow to look life CF. To me, it is sort of like using plastic printed to look like wood.

except ofcourse that plastic is cheap and leather isn't, naturally

 

[ILC32]

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except ofcourse that plastic is cheap and leather isn't, naturally

Plastic is cheap in comparison to real wood. Leather is cheap in comparison to real CF.

 

[Mr Robert]

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Since we have not heard any news regarding the tires other than that they probably are Michelin Pilot Sports i think that there will not be any R-tires for the ordinary M3. We will have to wait for that feature until the CSL.

Maybe BMW does not want to give R-tires to the M3 in order to keep the distance to CSL?

 

[RikfromBelgium]

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Plastic is cheap in comparison to real wood. Leather is cheap in comparison to real CF.

I think you've really got things mixed up. It's not like this is replacing CF trim. This is just an option to have your interior covered in leather, with a CF look to it.
You can still order one with CF trim if you want to.

 

[ILC32]

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I think you've really got things mixed up. It's not like this is replacing CF trim. This is just an option to have your interior covered in leather, with a CF look to it.
You can still order one with CF trim if you want to.

I don't know what I have mixed up. All I am saying is that I think the carbonstructure leather looks bad, and is a cheap substitute for real cf, just as plastic wood looks bad and is a cheap substitute for real wood.

Yes from the German price list it does look like you can buy real cf interior trim as a dealer-installed accessory.

 

[RikfromBelgium]

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I don't know what I have mixed up. All I am saying is that I think the carbonstructure leather looks bad, and is a cheap substitute for real cf, just as plastic wood looks bad and is a cheap substitute for real wood.

Yes from the German price list it does look like you can buy real cf interior trim as a dealer-installed accessory.

how can it be a cheap substitute if CF is still available. It's not replacing anything, it's an added option to individualize your interior.