M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]


The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the BMW 3 Series, developed by BMW's in-house motorsport division, BMW M GmbH. M3 models have been produced for every generation of 3 Series since the E30 M3 was introduced in 1986. The BMW M4 is a high-performance version of the BMW 4 Series automobile developed by BMW's motorsport division, BMW M, that has been built since 2014. As part of the renumbering that splits the coupé and convertible variants of the 3 Series into the 4 Series, the M4 replaced those variants of the BMW M3. Official website: BMW M

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You can't single out the Touring as not being worthy of a CFRP without saying the same for the saloon and coupe, because the car that would benefit the most from a CFRP roof IS the Touring.

The CFRP roof is a marketing gimmick anyway on the M3s, M5s and M8s. They're road cars. Nobody is going to notice the difference with or without a CFRP roof.

If the Touring comes without a CFRP, watch BMW spin it to say it's not justified on the Touring, when the reality will be it just wasn't cost effective.

Of course it is a marketing gimmick. But as I said before if saving weight is so important for the ones affected by the marketing they shouldn’t choose touring, even if it is here you will save most weight with carbon roof. It will still be the heaviest version and with the highest gravity point. Another thing is if you like the carbon look, or like to say you have carbon pieces on your car. I would go for panorama roof.
 
I finally saw my first M3 IRL. No picture unfortunately, I was with family returning from Disneyland Paris and no time to stop and explain I wanted to take some picture of the car. It was white... and I have to say that I did not like it, mainly because I feel it lacks some elegance, that's too show off. I much prefer the previous generation to this one. It was already my impression from pictures and I thought it might change after seeing it in the flesh, but not at all.
 
The Tesla is gonna win and every hypocritical EV zealot will jizz in their pants.

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Michelin Sport Cup 2.
So - exactly same time as the M4 Competition RWD on Cup2 in the previous supertest?
Interessting. That would mean: In the hands of a semi-pro driver, the xDrive version isn't any faster. (Most drivers with lower skills WILL BE FASTER with xDrive).
Magazine comes out Friday, so let's see the Hockenheimring time then and Christians final verdict M4Comp RWD vs AWD!
 
Michelin Sport Cup 2.
So - exactly same time as the M4 Competition RWD on Cup2 in the previous supertest?
Interessting. That would mean: In the hands of a semi-pro driver, the xDrive version isn't any faster. (Most drivers with lower skills WILL BE FASTER with xDrive).
Magazine comes out Friday, so let's see the Hockenheimring time then and Christians final verdict M4Comp RWD vs AWD!

The M4 rwd has lapped the ring in 7:31 with Cup 2 tyres and 7:34 with Pilot Sport 4S.
 
Thanks. So xDrive is a little bit faster! (y)
So - any guess for the RWD M4 CSL time, given it will be tested on same MPSC2? 7:19? :cool:

Yes, but maybe the conditions where not ideal on the 7:31 lap? Because it should be more than 3 seconds faster than with the normal sports tyres.
 
Thanks. So xDrive is a little bit faster! (y)
So - any guess for the RWD M4 CSL time, given it will be tested on same MPSC2? 7:19? :cool:
RWD M4 CSL with approximately 530-540 hp, MPCS2 and factory driver, I'd say yes...7:19 is very possible.
F82 M4 GTS did 7:28 with 500 hp and factory driver. Can't remember what tyres were used.
I'd guess CG will do 7:25ish in the upcoming M3 CS with ~ 520 hp and AWD.
 
The 'Ring is a high-speed circuit where 4WD has less of an advantage.
sport auto article is out now.
What Gebhardt essentially says: M4 Competition xDrive is more neutral and stable than RWD, which gives the driver more confidence ... which in turn makes you faster!
Weight increase is about 50kg compared to RWD. Test car weighted at 1755kg. Weight increase mainly at the front, which can be sensed under heavy breaking.
What is technically interessting: How they totally reworked front axle geometry! They really went all in with the MxDrive.
Final verdict: Hard to decide between xDrive and RWD version. From my POV this is a great compliment for the M engineers. And by the way: That it beats 992 Carrera S by half a second at HHR is an achievement.
 
The 'Ring is a high-speed circuit where 4WD has less of an advantage.
Not sure I fully agree. Depending on the performance of torque vectoring, AWD can enable the driver to get on the power soon in the bend and therefore carry more speed.
 
sport auto article is out now.
What Gebhardt essentially says: M4 Competition xDrive is more neutral and stable than RWD, which gives the driver more confidence ... which in turn makes you faster!
Weight increase is about 50kg compared to RWD. Test car weighted at 1755kg. Weight increase mainly at the front, which can be sensed under heavy breaking.
What is technically interessting: How they totally reworked front axle geometry! They really went all in with the MxDrive.
Final verdict: Hard to decide between xDrive and RWD version. From my POV this is a great compliment for the M engineers. And by the way: That it beats 992 Carrera S by half a second at HHR is an achievement.
It beats the Carrera on Cup 2 semis. ;)
 
Not sure I fully agree. Depending on the performance of torque vectoring, AWD can enable the driver to get on the power soon in the bend and therefore carry more speed.

Excactly, and with all those very long straights in the ring a good exit out of the curves will cut the time considerably.
Anyway, a good driver will be equally fast in an 4WD as an 2WD. We see it with the M4 and we have seen it a lot of times with all generations of 911, and also with other models.
 

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BMW M GmbH, formerly known as BMW Motorsport GmbH, is a subsidiary of BMW AG that manufactures high-performance luxury cars. BMW M ("M" for "motorsport") was initially created to facilitate BMW's racing program, which was very successful in the 1960s and 1970s. As time passed, BMW M began to supplement BMW's vehicle portfolio with specially modified higher trim models, for which they are now most known by the general public. These M-badged cars traditionally include modified engines, transmissions, suspensions, interior trims, aerodynamics, and exterior modifications to set them apart from their counterparts. All M models are tested and tuned at BMW's private facility at the Nürburgring racing circuit in Germany.
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