M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]

[hovabongZA]

BMW M3 CS Drops Heavy Camo, Shows Off Face In New Spy Photos

New spy shots capture the upcoming BMW M3 CS with a lot less camouflage than ever, showing off the sedan’s front and rear fascias.

www.motor1.com

Looks like it will have the yellow lights as seen in the M5CS….I guess these are signature CS lights now.

 

[manuelf]

BMW M3 CS Drops Heavy Camo, Shows Off Face In New Spy Photos

New spy shots capture the upcoming BMW M3 CS with a lot less camouflage than ever, showing off the sedan’s front and rear fascias.

www.motor1.com

Weird: This car seems to have the M Performance wheel setup we already know (21 inch in the back, 20 inch in the front) this time painted black. Weird because this would mean, the larger diameter rims and tires with smaller sidewalls seem to be a performance boost? But why was M then going for 19 inch at the front in the first step???
And what about the bootlid spoiler? This is the regular one! So this mule is only half done.

 

[Sunny]

Is previous M2 CS the last manual CS or anyone think there will be another?

 

[rollo]

Is previous M2 CS the last manual CS or anyone think there will be another?

Good question. Will it have AWD like the M3/M4 Competition? If so, probably not?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Good question. Will it have AWD like the M3/M4 Competition? If so, probably not?

Wasn't it mentioned that the new M2 will have only a RWD version and no AWD?

 

[manuelf]

Wasn't it mentioned that the new M2 will have only a RWD version and no AWD?

Yep. At least the most prominent rumour mill at bimmerpost&co told us so for months ...

 

[rollo]

Wasn't it mentioned that the new M2 will have only a RWD version and no AWD?

I am 3rd in line at a pretty large dealer in MA. I asked the AWD question for the Competition model and was told "maybe". They probably have no idea. Thanks for the info.

 

[Joelpeyeye]

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[manuelf]

Impressive American Muscle!

 

[dalab]

Of course, imagine an M4 with two engines, the one that already has 500 hp and the second was another 3.0 from the 230i with 255 hp.

 

[mihc]

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[J.E]

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[Big Sam]

Jesus, this must be the most teased BMW yet, and it's just an additional bodystyle of an already in production car. I'm excited for it to be revealed, but this is more than I remember them promoting the launch of the M3/M4 in 2020.

 

[hovabongZA]

Not bad if true ….the M4 CSL with cup 2Rs should be something.

 

[manuelf]

So sub 7:10 possible, which is crazy ...

 

[manuelf]

Reading Mishas post a second time and the following article https://carbuzz.com/news/bmw-just-set-two-blistering-nurburgring-lap-times ... it sounds like CG from sport auto did the timed laps with M3 Touring and M4CSL ... are these already supertest rounds or some practicing???

 

[hovabongZA]

So sub 7:10 possible, which is crazy ...

7:10 would be in quite an elite group of cars …then again the first CSL set quite a blistering time at the time.

 

[manuelf]

It really looks fast here ... and listen to the gear shifts! It almost sounds DCT/Xtrac sequential gearbox fast. ... they seem to have further tweaked the ZF8HP ...

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[Centurion]

This week I have driven the X4M and M4 Competition with bucket seats. My main point of comparison is my 1,450kg M140i with:
-M Performance LSD
-Underbody brace,
-Bird Suspension(Custom valved Bilstein dampers and progressive Eibach springs)
-Michelin Pilot Sport 4

X4M
Good
- I am a huge lift back fan.
-The M1 and M2 buttons are perfectly positioned
and should be on every bimmer. Much easier and quicker to switch modes than fiddling with gear
selector and pressing buttons around it.
-Great confidence in braking with minimal diving.
-Ride quality isn't as harsh or fidgety as I expected.

Bad
- Unfortunately the car can't hide its weight. It's
1,000kg/2200lb heavier than my M140i and feels like it. There is too much body roll in corners.

-Speed sensation below 50mph is underwhelming.

-I don't feel connected to the car. Grip levels and
insulation is too high. It's not numb but I have no
sensation of what the wheels are doing. Zero wheelspin. I want to "feel the car".

-Wrong engine for the car. The S58 feels like a more linear version of the B58. However such a heavy car would benefit from max torque much lower down
than the S58 offers. Alternatively it would benefit
from a V8.

Conclusion
-Not worth £80k brand new unless you can only own one car and must have a big boot. It's a car that tries to be too many things. You are better off buying two cars. A practical one and a fun one.

G82 M4 Competition with bucket seats

LIKE
-Exceptional turn-in that defies expectations. BMW M have done a sensational job with the innovative front axle. When steering aggressively the entire car turns with your body. Stepping out of the car I was in disbelief about how such a big car can feel precise and agile.

-Steering difference between Comfort and Sport
and dramatic! In the former the car is slack like a GT but in the latter response and turn-in is
significantly more aggresive. In many cars, sport
mode just makes the steering heavier without any tangible difference in turn-in or responsiveness.

-The S58 engine is louder than in the X4M, however I don't know whether its because the M4 has less insulation or whether more fake noise is pumped through the speakers.

-It's unmistakably a sports car rather than a
powerful BMW. For a very new car, the speed
sensation is good with the car not feeling too overly insulated, assisted or new school.

-The traction control has low intrusion. You don't
need to switch it off or dial it down in order to kick out the rear or steer with the throttle.

 

[Centurion]