Worst Cars of the 2000s!!!!


Whoever says the R class is not Ugly, is a serious Mercedes DIE HARD Nut or a bit looney...:D

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This can not be worse, prefer the multipla over this, no wonder only about 200 people a month buy this crap when it was meant to sell 2500-3000.

Don't laugh! ...I've never found the R-class to be ugly :)
 
That's because the S-class is a f__king tank.

Exactly and that was just the W220. Imagine if it was the W221.

Whoever says the R class is not Ugly, is a serious Mercedes DIE HARD Nut or a bit looney...:D

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The only fault in terms of the styling of the R-class is it's headlights. Other then that it's a cool crossover-van.

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The Cadillac Idunnowat is hardly one of the worst cars ever, even if it doesn't honour its badge.

The Cadillac Catera was a horrible little car. It was cadillac's first try in the entry level market before the CTS came along.

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It was a Chevy Cavalier with leather.

Don't laugh! ...I've never found the R-class to be ugly :)

I didn't either. Hated the headlights, but I still thought the overall design was exceptional. I truly believe if the R-class came out in 2000, it would have been a hit. Another problem is the R-class and GL came out too close together. GL was winning awards and offered a classic Mercedes-Benz design. If someone had the money, why in the world would they pick an R-class over the GL.
 
The Cadillac Catera was a horrible little car. It was cadillac's first try in the entry level market before the CTS came along.

It was a Chevy Cavalier with leather.

You're thinking of the Cadillac Cimarron of the early 80's. The Catera was a rebadged Opel Omega, built in Germany. I'm actually surprised by all the criticism since European press at the time considered the Omega a worthy if a bit dull alternative to the more expensive cars from the premium brands.
 
You're thinking of the Cadillac Cimarron of the early 80's. The Catera was a rebadged Opel Omega, built in Germany. I'm actually surprised by all the criticism since European press at the time considered the Omega a worthy if a bit dull alternative to the more expensive cars from the premium brands.

Whatever car it was based off, it was crap!

The Catera, due in part to reliability problems including initial tire wear issues caused by an "autobahn-friendly" alignment specification, and engine failures due to timing belt tensioner failure (for which a recall was eventually offered by GM) as well as a disappointing marketing campaign, was dropped after the 2001 model year. Consumer and automotive publications have generally reported the Catera's reliability improved significantly with the 1999 model year. Approximately 95,000 Cateras were sold in the United States in its five-year production run.

By the time the Catera was dropped, Cadillac would begin the company's current "Art & Science" design theme, and would skip a model year before unveiling the Catera's replacement, the American-designed & built Cadillac CTS, which would become a much more successful model

- Cadillac Catera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Naruto, I think you might be taking this too personally since it's a Indian car were talking about. ;)

Sorry for the off-topic, guys...

It's good news that the Nano has passed a crash test arranged in a British testing facility. However it's too early and perhaps even pointless to speculate how the test result translates to, say, for example EURONCAP crash test result as their test has some differences compared to this one (eg. the frontal impact speed is higher than the one used in this test 55 kph/35 mph vs. 64 kph/40 mph).
Anyway, if the crash test is anywhere close to the ones that were used by Germany's ADAC for the Chinese Brilliance BS4 & BS6 and Jiangling Landwind, this is a good sign.

This part of the article slightly concerns me:
By that time Tata aims to have 'Westernised' versions of the Nano ready for sale in both Europe and the US. It intends to subject these cars to the NCAP testing, and is confident of a four-star rating.

I hope the Indian version isn't any less safe than the "Westernized" version that will be subjected to the EURONCAP(/NHTSA/IIHS) testing.

I'm sorry but I have to say I'm a bit skeptical in general when it comes to safety of ultra-cheap small cars. And in this case when you want to make the cheapest car in the world you must save basically in all things related to the product. A few examples:
Economically, Tata really cut corners to create such an inexpensive car. First of all, the only way to access the boot space is by folding down the rear seats. The boot does not open. Glue has been used where welding is normally done, in some areas. There is only one windshield wiper, not two. There is no power steering, and there are only three lug nuts on each wheel.
The Nano is aptly named as it stretches just a bit over 10 feet (3 meters) long, making it about four feet (1.2 meters) shorter than the 2008 Ford Focus hatchback, a compact car by U.S. standards. The ride weighs in at just 1,300 pounds (660 kilograms), about half of a Focus hatchback. This light weight partially explains the Nano’s low cost because fewer raw materials were needed to make it, according to the Chicago Tribune.

It's important to bear in mind, no small car will ever be able to overturn the laws of physics. In a collision mass rules, small cars are in a natural disadvantage.

I agree it's somewhat hypocritical for the West to tell developing countries what they must do and and what they mustn't. Especially after colonization and the early industrial era. It's not like pollution didn't exist back then either. The air in London used to be terrible due to extensive use of coal and as a result people died decades earlier than today.
On the other hand nobody wants the developing countries to make the same mistakes the Western world did. It's the same planet we live in so it should be our common responsibility to make sure it's still inhabitable for our children.

Naturally people in these countries are allowed to own cars and in other ways to be able to reach the same level of wealth that we have. And I do understand that a Nano is much safer than the scooters that are the most popular form of transportation currently in many Indian cities.
But again the most inexpensive engine technology is also almost without exception the most polluting technology and cheapest materials don't result best quality and safety.

So yes, a 2-stroke engine in a single car has small consumption and emissions in absolute terms but if you multiply that by few hundred millions, it starts to make a big impact. This is why there is real concern, also in India (as you might know):
Indians bought 1.5 million cars last year. By some estimates, India is expected to soar past China this year as the fastest-growing car market. Not unexpectedly, Indian environmentalists have assailed the car craze, particularly because of the country's relatively relaxed emissions standards and the proliferation of diesel-powered cars; AutoExpo features a pavilion dedicated to diesel. Even Rajendra Pachauri, the usually nonconfrontational chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, co-winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, has sharply criticized the small-car boom, questioning Tata Motors in particular for devoting itself to building cheap cars rather than efficient mass transportation.

The only solution is probably that both sides invest heavily on low-emission technology and green technology in general to lower the cost and make it available to more people and simultaneously improve public transportation in densely populated cities (a great example is Delhi Metro).

I hope you understand my point and don't see this as a hypocritical, prejudiced or arrogant assesment because that's really not my intention. :t-cheers:

PS. I have a friend (he's Sri Lankan) who spent 2 months in India and neigbouring countries but I've never been to India myself and I'm sure I could learn a lot from visiting the country. :usa7uh:

Do just a little bit of research before saying something. The reason Nano is cheap has nothing to do with how it's made, rather the low cost of the country its made in and the lack of extras the car has. Here is a link, read it and understand it and then get back to me. Nano Passes European Crash Test Get off your high horse. People in developed countries got to F__k up the world but now that developing countries are trying to advance their society everyone has an issue about the environment? Really? Mighty hypocritical there. As for this car being bad, I think the safety of the people comes before anything else. In a country where family's ride on a scooter or motorcycle, I've personally been on a motorcycle with my uncle, me, my cousin (same age) and my little cousin (12yo). I think all of us in a Nano would've been much safer, not to mention the engine on the motorcycle or scooter is not any more efficient or environmentally friendly. If developed countries REALLY care about these "3rd world" countries polluting the world, then help us with our F__king infrastructure rather than sit on your high horse and tell others to do the right thing when they themselves are F__king up the world 10 times worse. BTW, my family was in the pool of the first people to get a Nano. My uncle bought it for my cousins as a learners car. The speeds in MOST Indian city's max out at like 40km/h and only on the open highways do they have speeds at 50km/h...If only you could get to those speeds due to massive traffic. So, as for safety, this car is FAR safer than a motorcycle or a scooter. Honestly, if you don't know about another country, please refrain from saying dumb things about that country, especially if the person you're speaking to IS from that country. :t-cheers:
 
The Cadillac Catera was a horrible little car. It was cadillac's first try in the entry level market before the CTS came along.

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It was a Chevy Cavalier with leather.

LOL...actually it was some type of opel mismatch, but real Cavalier with leather that Cadillac tried to sell was the Cadillac Cimarron. Actually the Catera wasn't a bad car, but it was too heavy to be taken seriously as sports sedan and the styling was an aquired taste at best.

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Now you talk about a real POS. It was arguably the lowest point in Cadillac's 100+ year history.


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No the only car that is capable of doing it is the ssangyong rodius :D


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Oh, yes Ssangyong easily wins 1st place award for most horrendous designs across the ENTIRE product line. Regarding the Mk.

Not to mention a marketing riddle of calling a pick-up "Actyon Sports" while original "Actyon" (without Sports appendix) is their interpretation of SUC-coupe (kind of). :eusa_thin
 

Is it only that smiley or you really think the 1 series is one of the worst cars of 2000s?

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Naruto, I think you might be taking this too personally since it's a Indian car were talking about. ;)

It's not because it's an Indian car. It's because I come from a "3rd world country" and I have personally seen poverty. I know what it's like to not have money and ride on a scooter with 5 people on it. I know what it's like to lose a family members to an accident because they couldn't afford a car. And the fact that people from developed countries have this "holier than thou" attitude, when in fact they don't know jack sh!t.

I'm not sticking up just for India, I've stuck up pretty much people all over the world who can't voice their opinions due to their position. I'm not gonna let some snobby ass people get away with saying some sh!t they have no right saying. Until you've lived in a poor country and seen what true poverty and hunger is, please don't say stupid sh!t like "they should care about the environment." Saving the environment should not come at the cost of people dying, especially if "YOUR" country has been destroying it for years.

-Raman
 
Narutoramen, I think you need to chill out. I live in a 3rd world country too, and yes, I'm in a more fortunate position than most. This thread is about the worst cars of the 2000s and someone put forward their opinion that - relative to their frame of reference - the Tata Nano is rubbish. It's their opinion and their right to have been born in a 1st world country to have such an opinion.

I think you've made your point now. No more need to berate the individual on the other side of the internet for simply having a view on a car.

Persist and I will delete your posts. Your aggressive tirade ends here.

Let me remind everyone that this is a global community that focuses on discussing cars. Invariably a person's post is car-related and has very little political or socio-economic undercurrent. Let's give people the benefit of the doubt.

The Tata Nano in an Indian domestic context is one of the most vital cars of the century. In a global context it is far less important in my 3rd world opinion. Let's move on.
 
Narutoramen, I think you need to chill out. I live in a 3rd world country too, and yes, I'm in a more fortunate position than most. This thread is about the worst cars of the 2000s and someone put forward their opinion that - relative to their frame of reference - the Tata Nano is rubbish. It's their opinion and their right to have been born in a 1st world country to have such an opinion.

I think you've made your point now. No more need to berate the individual on the other side of the internet for simply having a view on a car.

Persist and I will delete your posts. Your aggressive tirade ends here.

Let me remind everyone that this is a global community that focuses on discussing cars. Invariably a person's post is car-related and has very little political or socio-economic undercurrent. Let's give people the benefit of the doubt.

The Tata Nano in an Indian domestic context is one of the most vital cars of the century. In a global context it is far less important in my 3rd world opinion. Let's move on.

How was it aggressive? I think being tolerance of prejudice is far worse than what I have done, yet they don't get any warnings?

I'm not blocking people from having an opinion, but what the dude said and bmer said about "destroying the environment" is what is wrong here. Jeez, I'm sorry I defended the people who don't have anything.

I'm done with this argument.
 

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