Upcoming Mercedes-Benz Models/Facelifts

[LaArtist]

Lol Mercedes Benz MFA..
Epic

 

[Nicks]

It actually reminded me of a taller Porsche 356, with 4 doors and a hatch. I know that sounds strange, but it takes more rounded styling from the ML, rather than the box-like G/L/K models.

The grill was very vertical, as on the SLS, and it was not tall by any measure. It actually seemed lower than a B, but with more ground clearance, so that the body was more svelte.

This picture is similar to what the body looked like, but the front was much better, like I said, more SLS grill:

The CLA (4-door coupé, size C or smaller) or whatever it will be called looked good though, although the car seemed too small for all the good design that went in to it, as if a painting was forced on to a smaller canvas.

Where did you get this information from? Sounds like blsht to me

 

[PHYBENZ]

As far as I know, there will be no new A, only a new B. In any case, it will be FWD, so neither it nor the A3 can compete with the 1er based on that.

The S coupé is nearly out; at this point the disguises do not hide much, and it looks very good.

The all new S and GL are still too far out, I can not speak on that with any accuracy.

Have you seen the new S Coupe rear? How are the reverse light integrated?

 

[Untertürkheim]

When will the S coupe be released? Detroit, Geneva, or Paris?

I will try to find out where it will be released, but it will debut the new engines for MB when it is released in Summer 2010.

 

[Shining Star]

I will try to find out where it will be released, but it will debut the new engines for MB when it is released in Summer 2010.

Where do you get your insider info?

 

[Untertürkheim]

Where did you get this information from? Sounds like blsht to me

Regaring the MFA/MLK, I was invited to a marketing study by MB, it was conducted at the LA Convention Center with BRS Research on 22 August, 2009.

 

[Untertürkheim]

Where do you get your insider info?

A combination of sources, the Daimler High-Tech report, friends inside, some German news.

 

[Untertürkheim]

Obiously RWD will always be a better choice, but I mean in terms of design, I thought the B-Class was still gonna be an MPV and the A-Class a hatchback ala A3/1er/Golf.

The B will still be an MPV, I never thought of it competing in the "car" market with the 1er and A3. MB has the CLC, to be called C-coupé once it uses the current 204 chassis, for that.

 

[Untertürkheim]

Have you seen the new S Coupe rear? How are the reverse light integrated?

I have not seen it uncloaked, although I believe the pictures showing them next to the license plate, towards the center of the trunklid, to be correct.

The S-coupé is what I am most interested in, and very much hoping for a diesel variant. The CLS will be beautiful though, I think the new one has much better proportions.

 

[Wolfgang]

MFA is "Mercedes Frontantriebsarchitektur", which means Mercedes new front wheel drive architecture, to be used in the A/B Class.

www.jesmb.de

 

[Wolfgang]

S-class to get four-pot engine

The current Mercedes S-class will receive an eco boost with the arrival of a four-cylinder diesel version next year.

Called the 300 CDI, the new model is expected to be powered by the E250 CDI’s 201bhp turbodiesel, pushing out 384lb ft of torque.

Mercedes' R&D boss Thomas Weber admitted that downsizing the S-class diesel was an engineering challenge.

"The issue is NVH [noise, vibration and harshness]," he said.

"Getting refinement to S-class levels was difficult and we had to change engine mounts and add body stiffness".

Chas Hallett

S-class to get four-pot engine - Autocar.co.uk#

 

[Untertürkheim]

MFA is "Mercedes Frontantriebsarchitektur", which means Mercedes new front wheel drive architecture, to be used in the A/B Class.

Of course, thank you!

 

[Wolfgang]

Of course, thank you!

You are welcome.

 

[Untertürkheim]

S-class to get four-pot engine

The current Mercedes S-class will receive an eco boost with the arrival of a four-cylinder diesel version next year.

Called the 300 CDI, the new model is expected to be powered by the E250 CDI’s 201bhp turbodiesel, pushing out 384lb ft of torque.

Mercedes' R&D boss Thomas Weber admitted that downsizing the S-class diesel was an engineering challenge.

"The issue is NVH [noise, vibration and harshness]," he said.

"Getting refinement to S-class levels was difficult and we had to change engine mounts and add body stiffness".

Chas Hallett

S-class to get four-pot engine - Autocar.co.uk#

I wonder how the nomenclature will end up, but I have been told that there will be a diesel S in the US by 2011, as a diesel hybrid. If you recall, MB did show a 4-cyl diesel hybrid called S300.

This is pure speculation, but as we all know the main concern with the 4-cyl is NVH, which can be largely addressed with a hybrid/start-stop system. It may be that the 221 with the 651 will all be hybrid, which would put it in line from what I heard from MBUSA, as well as addressing the NVH, and explaining why it would be a 300 rather than 250.

 

[Shining Star]

I will try to find out where it will be released, but it will debut the new engines for MB when it is released in Summer 2010.

Any word yet?

 

[Untertürkheim]

Any word yet?

I would say that your post in the CL forum was correct, June 2010 at the GFS would be in line with the summer release, although that will probably be the US release, I doubt it would be the world unveiling. DBAG and MBUSA are nearly closed until the new year, so very little furhter information is available.

 

[Shining Star]

BTW Unterturkheim...have you seen MB's Detroit concept? What will it preview the CLS or the W222 S?

 

[Untertürkheim]

BTW Unterturkheim...have you seen MB's Detroit concept? What will it preview the CLS or the W222 S?

I have not seen the detroit concept, but I have been hearing about a lot of camo new CLS driving around Stuttgart, so it seems pre-production is well underway.

 

[Untertürkheim]

Next-Gen Engine?

Even though MB is supposed to be waiting for the CL facelift to debut the new generation of engines, it seems one managed to slip through early.

The CLS Grand Edition in the UK is based on the 350CDI with a lot of extras, and special options. Another treat is the revised engine, with 272 hp and 590nm (435lb-ft) torque, a considerable increase.

This may be the next iteration of the 350, or perhaps just a special spec until the real revision is released.

 

[SKY]

Even though MB is supposed to be waiting for the CL facelift to debut the new generation of engines, it seems one managed to slip through early.

The CLS Grand Edition in the UK is based on the 350CDI with a lot of extras, and special options. Another treat is the revised engine, with 272 hp and 590nm (435lb-ft) torque, a considerable increase.

This may be the next iteration of the 350, or perhaps just a special spec until the real revision is released.

272 hp for the 350 CDI? That´s great!!