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Autocar Road Test - Mercedes-Benz EQE 350+ AMG LINE (288 bhp / 417 lb-ft ) - (13deg C, damp patches)
Dry Circuit Lap Time: -
Wet Circuit Lap Time: -
Acceleration (mph):
0-30: 2,4
0-40: 3,3
0-50: 4,5
0-60: 6,0
0-70: 7,9
0-80: 10,1
0-90: 12,8
0-100: 15,9
0-110: 19,8
0-120: 24,5
0-130: 31,4
1/4 Mile - 14.7s @ 96.3mph
0-1000m: 26,7s @ 123.7mph
Braking (13deg C, damp patches):
60-0: 3.38s
30-0: 10,7 m
50-0: 29,4 m
70-0: 58,3 m
Tires Brand: Pirelli P Zero
Tires Size: 255/35/21 | 285/35/21
Drag coefficient: 0.22
Weight: 2,386 kg
Autocar Rivals Ranking:
1st: Porsche Taycan 4S Performance Plus - 4/5/5
2nd: BMW i4 eDrive40 M Sport - 4/5
3rd: Mercedes-Benz EQE 350+ - 3.5/5
4th: Tesla Model S Dual Motor - N/a
5th: Polestar 5 - N/a
Dry Circuit Lap Time: -
Wet Circuit Lap Time: -
Acceleration (mph):
0-30: 2,4
0-40: 3,3
0-50: 4,5
0-60: 6,0
0-70: 7,9
0-80: 10,1
0-90: 12,8
0-100: 15,9
0-110: 19,8
0-120: 24,5
0-130: 31,4
1/4 Mile - 14.7s @ 96.3mph
0-1000m: 26,7s @ 123.7mph
Braking (13deg C, damp patches):
60-0: 3.38s
30-0: 10,7 m
50-0: 29,4 m
70-0: 58,3 m
Tires Brand: Pirelli P Zero
Tires Size: 255/35/21 | 285/35/21
Drag coefficient: 0.22
Weight: 2,386 kg
Autocar Rivals Ranking:
1st: Porsche Taycan 4S Performance Plus - 4/5/5
2nd: BMW i4 eDrive40 M Sport - 4/5
3rd: Mercedes-Benz EQE 350+ - 3.5/5
4th: Tesla Model S Dual Motor - N/a
5th: Polestar 5 - N/a
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Sport Auto France Test: BMW M4 CSL vs Porsche 992 GT3 Touring (PDK)
Acceleration: (BMW vs Porsche)
0-100: 3,8 / 4,0
0-160: 7,1 / 7,7
0-200: 10,6 / 11,6
100-140: 2,1 / 2,5
0-400m: 11,5s @ 207 km/h / 11,8s @ 202 km/h
0-1000m: 20,6s @ 259 km/h / 21,2s @ 256 km/h
Max Speed (km/h): 307 / 318
Braking:
200-0: 123 m / 139 m
Tires Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R / Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
Tires Size: 275/35/19 | 285/30/20 - 255/35/20 | 315/30/21
Weight: 1,628 kg / 1,493 kg
Price: 237,415 € / 262,995 €
Winner: Porsche
Acceleration: (BMW vs Porsche)
0-100: 3,8 / 4,0
0-160: 7,1 / 7,7
0-200: 10,6 / 11,6
100-140: 2,1 / 2,5
0-400m: 11,5s @ 207 km/h / 11,8s @ 202 km/h
0-1000m: 20,6s @ 259 km/h / 21,2s @ 256 km/h
Max Speed (km/h): 307 / 318
Braking:
200-0: 123 m / 139 m
Tires Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R / Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
Tires Size: 275/35/19 | 285/30/20 - 255/35/20 | 315/30/21
Weight: 1,628 kg / 1,493 kg
Price: 237,415 € / 262,995 €
Winner: Porsche
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Sport Auto France Supertest - Ford Fiesta ST
Track Conditions: 17deg C - Dry / Good weather
Driver: Christophe Tinseau
Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 2:01,19
Vmax: 191 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1G / -0.9G
Acceleration (km/h):
0-100: 6,4
0-160: 15,6
0-200: 28,8
0-400m: 14,6s @ 155 km/h
0-1000m: 26,8s @ 194 km/h
Braking:
200-0: not measured
Weight: 1,203 kg
Weight Distribution: 63/37%
Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (In good condition)
Tire Size: 205/40/18
Rating: 4/5
Price as tested: 31,664 €
Track Conditions: 17deg C - Dry / Good weather
Driver: Christophe Tinseau
Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 2:01,19
Vmax: 191 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1G / -0.9G
Acceleration (km/h):
0-100: 6,4
0-160: 15,6
0-200: 28,8
0-400m: 14,6s @ 155 km/h
0-1000m: 26,8s @ 194 km/h
Braking:
200-0: not measured
Weight: 1,203 kg
Weight Distribution: 63/37%
Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (In good condition)
Tire Size: 205/40/18
Rating: 4/5
Price as tested: 31,664 €
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Tested: 2022 Mercedes-Benz EQS450+ Electrifies Luxury
The less powerful version of the EQS offers relative value and impressive range for a six-figure outlay.
PUBLISHED: JAN 4, 2023
www.caranddriver.com
UPDATE 1/3/23: This review has been updated with test results.
After you've driven nearly every car for sale over the last 20 years, it's natural for the cars of the past to enter into your thoughts when driving something new. Humans compare experiences to gain perspective, which explains why we were daydreaming about Rolls-Royces while driving Mercedes-Benz's new electric luxury four-door, the EQS450+.
Like a Rolls-Royce Phantom, the EQS is a capsule of luxury and silence that pours itself down the road with unerring grace. Unlike a hard-to-swallow Rolls, the EQS looks like an Advil Liqui-Gel. It's a lozenge of a car with what Mercedes claims is the lowest drag coefficient—0.20—of any car on sale. That slick bod whips through the air, barely disturbing it, and leads to near silence at extra-legal highway speeds. At a more reasonable 70 mph, we recorded just 64 decibels of noise inside the cabin.
The 107.8-kWh battery sandwiched in the floor assists in keeping road noise to a minimum. That big battery also allows the EQS450+ to go an estimated 350 miles between charges, according to the EPA. Yet we were able to cover 400 miles on our 75-mph highway test, putting this Benz just behind our current long-range EV champ, the Lucid Air Grand Touring. Find a Level 3 DC hookup and the EQS can go from 10 percent charge to 80 percent in a claimed 31 minutes. On a typical Level 2 setup, the EQS takes just over 11 hours to go from 10 percent to 100 percent.
Moving the electrons around in the battery is a single motor driving the rear wheels that makes 329 horsepower and 417 pound-feet of torque. It's not nearly as quick as the 516-hp EQS580, but it'll shove you into the massaging seats. After the initial thrust from a stop the acceleration tapers off, but 60 mph is yours in 5.4 seconds. In more relaxed driving, the right-now torque affords the EQS the same sort of effortless waftability that Rolls-Royce has been touting for decades."
Etc. Continues in the link provided.
Test results~
POWERTRAIN
Motor: permanent-magnet synchronous AC, 329 hp, 417 lb-ft
Battery Pack: liquid-cooled lithium-ion, 107.8 kWh
Onboard Charger: 9.6 kW
Peak DC Fast-Charge Rate: 200 kW
Transmission: direct-drive
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 15.4-in vented disc/14.9-in vented disc
Tires: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
255/45R-20 105H Extra Load MO
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 126.4 in
Length: 207.3 in
Width: 75.8 in
Height: 59.6 in
Passenger Volume, F/R: 58/45 ft3
Cargo Volume, Behind F/R: 63/22 ft3
Curb Weight: 5530 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 5.4 sec
100 mph: 13.6 sec
1/4-Mile: 14.0 sec @ 101 mph
130 mph: 25.1 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 5.5 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed (gov ltd): 130 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 167 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 351 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.90 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 83 MPGe
75-mph Highway Range: 400 mi
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 97/97/97 MPGe
Range: 350 mi.
The less powerful version of the EQS offers relative value and impressive range for a six-figure outlay.
PUBLISHED: JAN 4, 2023
Tested: 2022 Mercedes-Benz EQS450+ Electrifies Luxury
The less powerful EQS model offers relative value and impressive range for a six-figure outlay
UPDATE 1/3/23: This review has been updated with test results.
After you've driven nearly every car for sale over the last 20 years, it's natural for the cars of the past to enter into your thoughts when driving something new. Humans compare experiences to gain perspective, which explains why we were daydreaming about Rolls-Royces while driving Mercedes-Benz's new electric luxury four-door, the EQS450+.
Like a Rolls-Royce Phantom, the EQS is a capsule of luxury and silence that pours itself down the road with unerring grace. Unlike a hard-to-swallow Rolls, the EQS looks like an Advil Liqui-Gel. It's a lozenge of a car with what Mercedes claims is the lowest drag coefficient—0.20—of any car on sale. That slick bod whips through the air, barely disturbing it, and leads to near silence at extra-legal highway speeds. At a more reasonable 70 mph, we recorded just 64 decibels of noise inside the cabin.
The 107.8-kWh battery sandwiched in the floor assists in keeping road noise to a minimum. That big battery also allows the EQS450+ to go an estimated 350 miles between charges, according to the EPA. Yet we were able to cover 400 miles on our 75-mph highway test, putting this Benz just behind our current long-range EV champ, the Lucid Air Grand Touring. Find a Level 3 DC hookup and the EQS can go from 10 percent charge to 80 percent in a claimed 31 minutes. On a typical Level 2 setup, the EQS takes just over 11 hours to go from 10 percent to 100 percent.
Moving the electrons around in the battery is a single motor driving the rear wheels that makes 329 horsepower and 417 pound-feet of torque. It's not nearly as quick as the 516-hp EQS580, but it'll shove you into the massaging seats. After the initial thrust from a stop the acceleration tapers off, but 60 mph is yours in 5.4 seconds. In more relaxed driving, the right-now torque affords the EQS the same sort of effortless waftability that Rolls-Royce has been touting for decades."
Etc. Continues in the link provided.
Test results~
POWERTRAIN
Motor: permanent-magnet synchronous AC, 329 hp, 417 lb-ft
Battery Pack: liquid-cooled lithium-ion, 107.8 kWh
Onboard Charger: 9.6 kW
Peak DC Fast-Charge Rate: 200 kW
Transmission: direct-drive
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 15.4-in vented disc/14.9-in vented disc
Tires: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
255/45R-20 105H Extra Load MO
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 126.4 in
Length: 207.3 in
Width: 75.8 in
Height: 59.6 in
Passenger Volume, F/R: 58/45 ft3
Cargo Volume, Behind F/R: 63/22 ft3
Curb Weight: 5530 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 5.4 sec
100 mph: 13.6 sec
1/4-Mile: 14.0 sec @ 101 mph
130 mph: 25.1 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 5.5 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed (gov ltd): 130 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 167 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 351 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.90 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 83 MPGe
75-mph Highway Range: 400 mi
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 97/97/97 MPGe
Range: 350 mi.
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Quattroruote (IT) Test - Mercedes-Benz AMG SL63 4MATIC+ (585 CV / 800 Nm)
Acceleration:
0-60: 1,9
0-100: 3,5
0-110: 4,0
0-130: 5,2
0-140: 5,9
0-150: 6,6
0-400m: 11,4s @ 200,5km/h
0-1000m: 20,8s @ 257,0km/h
Top Speed: 316 km/h
Braking:
100-0: 39,9 m (0,99 g)
200-0: 141,7 m (1,11 g)
Weight: 2,043 kg
Weight Distribution: 54/46%
Drag coefficient: 0,358
Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Tire Size: 275/35/21 | 305/30/21
Price as tested: 208,520 €
Acceleration:
0-60: 1,9
0-100: 3,5
0-110: 4,0
0-130: 5,2
0-140: 5,9
0-150: 6,6
0-400m: 11,4s @ 200,5km/h
0-1000m: 20,8s @ 257,0km/h
Top Speed: 316 km/h
Braking:
100-0: 39,9 m (0,99 g)
200-0: 141,7 m (1,11 g)
Weight: 2,043 kg
Weight Distribution: 54/46%
Drag coefficient: 0,358
Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Tire Size: 275/35/21 | 305/30/21
Price as tested: 208,520 €
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Now you see, why the M5 Comp. typically smokes its competition! BMW is playing down power massively and in reality overdelivering like crazy! I mean over 100Nm more torque than advertized. On the other hand - although already advertized as being the lightest among its competitors - its even undercutting the official weight opposed to its fat competitors, who are even more fatty than claimed.
M5 is simply insane. It always was!
By the way: I like this new CarWow format!
Unfortunately they didn't say one word about potential dyno detection of those cars. I know that at least AMG and Porsche did have dyno detection in the past, that then lead to power reduction on the dyno ... don't know, what's the current state here.
M5 is simply insane. It always was!
By the way: I like this new CarWow format!
Unfortunately they didn't say one word about potential dyno detection of those cars. I know that at least AMG and Porsche did have dyno detection in the past, that then lead to power reduction on the dyno ... don't know, what's the current state here.
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We all knew this though didnt we? Low 10 sec to 200 isn't done with 635 crank hp.
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1. BMW.
2. PORSCHE.
3. MERCEDES.
4. AUDI.
For those that don't want to watch the whole video. Places in order as per CARWOW rankings.
But that Mercedes Benz AMG has got a hell of alot of torque. They always have had!
2. PORSCHE.
3. MERCEDES.
4. AUDI.
For those that don't want to watch the whole video. Places in order as per CARWOW rankings.
But that Mercedes Benz AMG has got a hell of alot of torque. They always have had!
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Sport Auto Supertest - BMW Alpina B4 Gran Coupe ( 512 PS / 785 Nm)
NBR - 7:52
Vmax: 278 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 16c / 19c
HHR - 1:58,5
Vmax: 242 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,15 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 14c / 21c
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,6
0-100: 4,2
0-160: 8,5
0-200: 13,3
Top Speed: 301 km/h
Slalom 18m: 68,6 km/h
Slalom 36m: 131 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 35,5 m
100-0(Warm): 33,6 m
200-0(Warm): 132,2 m
200-0 (km/h): 4,8s
0-200-0 (km/h): 18,1s
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero (ALP)
Tire Size: 255/35/20 | 285/30/20
Weight: 1,952 kg
Weight Distribution: 52,8/47,2%
Price as tested: 107,470 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 51 pts
Driver: Christian Gebhardt
NBR - 7:52
Vmax: 278 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 16c / 19c
HHR - 1:58,5
Vmax: 242 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,15 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 14c / 21c
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,6
0-100: 4,2
0-160: 8,5
0-200: 13,3
Top Speed: 301 km/h
Slalom 18m: 68,6 km/h
Slalom 36m: 131 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 35,5 m
100-0(Warm): 33,6 m
200-0(Warm): 132,2 m
200-0 (km/h): 4,8s
0-200-0 (km/h): 18,1s
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero (ALP)
Tire Size: 255/35/20 | 285/30/20
Weight: 1,952 kg
Weight Distribution: 52,8/47,2%
Price as tested: 107,470 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 51 pts
Driver: Christian Gebhardt
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Sport Auto Supertest - BMW Alpina B4 Gran Coupe ( 512 PS / 785 Nm)
The midsized M5 with a big V8 is lighter than this car ...crazy.
These are some of the compromises of platform sharing with BEVs I suppose.
NBR - 7:52
Vmax: 278 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 16c / 19c
HHR - 1:58,5
Vmax: 242 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,15 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 14c / 21c
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,6
0-100: 4,2
0-160: 8,5
0-200: 13,3
Top Speed: 301 km/h
Slalom 18m: 68,6 km/h
Slalom 36m: 131 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 35,5 m
100-0(Warm): 33,6 m
200-0(Warm): 132,2 m
200-0 (km/h): 4,8s
0-200-0 (km/h): 18,1s
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero (ALP)
Tire Size: 255/35/20 | 285/30/20
Weight: 1,952 kg
Weight Distribution: 52,8/47,2%
Price as tested: 107,470 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 51 pts
Driver: Christian Gebhardt
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Autobild Sportscars Supertest - Hyundai Kona N Performance
Air Temperature: 21c (sunny & dry)
Sachsenring Lap Time - 1:42,03
Vmax: 203,6 km/h
Maximum Lateral (G-Force) Acceleration - 1,31 g
-=Rival Lap Times at Sachsenring=-
VW Golf R 20 Years (2022) - 1:36,82
Cupra Leon VZ (2022) - 1:37,59
Honda Civic Type R (2019) - 1:37,75
Ford Focus ST (2020) - 1:39,69
Hyundai i30 N Performance (2019) - 1:40,51
Hyundai i20 N Performance (2021) - 1:42,15
Hyundai i30 N Fastback (2019) - 1:42,30 / Vmax: 204,5 km/h
Hyundai i30 N Performance (2018) - 1:42,68
Power / Torque: 289 PS / 408 Nm
Acceleration (km/h):
0-50: 2,3
0-80: 4,0
0-100: 5,4
0-130: 8,2
0-160: 12,4
0-180: 16,2
0-200: 20,1
1/4 Mile: 13,61s
Top Speed (mfr. claim): 240 km/h
Slalom 18m: 69,1 km/h
Braking (km/h):
100-0(Cold): 34,8 m
100-0(Warm): 33,0 m
200-0(Warm): 137,4 m
Weight: 1,512 kg
Weight Distribution: 63/37%
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero (HN)
Tire Size: 235/40/19
Price: 38,900 €
Total Points (400): 268 pts
Driver: Guido Naumann
Air Temperature: 21c (sunny & dry)
Sachsenring Lap Time - 1:42,03
Vmax: 203,6 km/h
Maximum Lateral (G-Force) Acceleration - 1,31 g
-=Rival Lap Times at Sachsenring=-
VW Golf R 20 Years (2022) - 1:36,82
Cupra Leon VZ (2022) - 1:37,59
Honda Civic Type R (2019) - 1:37,75
Ford Focus ST (2020) - 1:39,69
Hyundai i30 N Performance (2019) - 1:40,51
Hyundai i20 N Performance (2021) - 1:42,15
Hyundai i30 N Fastback (2019) - 1:42,30 / Vmax: 204,5 km/h
Hyundai i30 N Performance (2018) - 1:42,68
Power / Torque: 289 PS / 408 Nm
Acceleration (km/h):
0-50: 2,3
0-80: 4,0
0-100: 5,4
0-130: 8,2
0-160: 12,4
0-180: 16,2
0-200: 20,1
1/4 Mile: 13,61s
Top Speed (mfr. claim): 240 km/h
Slalom 18m: 69,1 km/h
Braking (km/h):
100-0(Cold): 34,8 m
100-0(Warm): 33,0 m
200-0(Warm): 137,4 m
Weight: 1,512 kg
Weight Distribution: 63/37%
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero (HN)
Tire Size: 235/40/19
Price: 38,900 €
Total Points (400): 268 pts
Driver: Guido Naumann
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Autobild Sportscars - Hatchback Group Test at Lausitzring Pt.2
Air Temperature: 23c (sunny & dry)
Audi S3 Sportback
Lap Time - 1:41,03
Vmax: 206,3 km/h
Rank: 5th
BMW M135i xDrive
Lap Time - 1:40,71
Vmax: 207,7 km/h
Rank: 4th
VW Golf R
Lap Time - 1:39,06
Vmax: 213,8 km/h
Rank: 3rd
Mercedes-AMG A45 S 4Matic+
Lap Time - 1:34,61
Vmax: 225,5 km/h
Rank: 2nd
Audi RS 3 Sportback
Lap Time - 1:34,19
Vmax: 228,8 km/h
Rank: 1st (Winner)
Air Temperature: 23c (sunny & dry)
Audi S3 Sportback
Lap Time - 1:41,03
Vmax: 206,3 km/h
Rank: 5th
BMW M135i xDrive
Lap Time - 1:40,71
Vmax: 207,7 km/h
Rank: 4th
VW Golf R
Lap Time - 1:39,06
Vmax: 213,8 km/h
Rank: 3rd
Mercedes-AMG A45 S 4Matic+
Lap Time - 1:34,61
Vmax: 225,5 km/h
Rank: 2nd
Audi RS 3 Sportback
Lap Time - 1:34,19
Vmax: 228,8 km/h
Rank: 1st (Winner)
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Trofeo R for both.
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Auto Motor Und Sport Test - BMW i7 xDrive60 (544 PS / 745 Nm)
Acceleration:
0-50: 2,3
0-80: 3,8
0-100: 5,0
0-130: 7,3
0-160: 10,4
0-180: 13,0
0-200: 16,2
0-220: 22,0
1/4 Mile: 13,1 s @ 181 km/h
Top Speed: 240 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 35,3 m
100-0(Warm): 35,0 m
Slalom 18m: 64,5 km/h
Double Lane Change: 131,6 km/h
Drag coefficient: 0.24
Weight: 2,744 kg
Weight Distribution: 48.3/51.7%
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero
Tire Size: 255/40/21 | 285/35/21
Price As Tested: 148,690 €
Acceleration:
0-50: 2,3
0-80: 3,8
0-100: 5,0
0-130: 7,3
0-160: 10,4
0-180: 13,0
0-200: 16,2
0-220: 22,0
1/4 Mile: 13,1 s @ 181 km/h
Top Speed: 240 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 35,3 m
100-0(Warm): 35,0 m
Slalom 18m: 64,5 km/h
Double Lane Change: 131,6 km/h
Drag coefficient: 0.24
Weight: 2,744 kg
Weight Distribution: 48.3/51.7%
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero
Tire Size: 255/40/21 | 285/35/21
Price As Tested: 148,690 €
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