1 Series [Spyshots] BMW 1 Series F20/21 Facelift (LCI) Spy pics/renders/discussion

[Cabasse0]

Only Scott can help us but i have already ask him about à more relevant informations without success

 

[Betty Swollocks]

That's what I had in mind...

The only motor shows between Paris and Geneva next March are Los Angeles in November and Detroit in January, and the 1 Series isn't sold in the U.S., so it won't be launched there. I expect the 3 Series LCI to get its facelift debut in Geneva next March, so it won't be the 1 Series then.

Only Scott can help us but i have already ask him about à more relevant informations without success

No, Scott isn't the only one who can help us. There are other sources out there other than Scott. In fact Scott is often WRONG. He said the 1 Series LCI was the next major release, and that was April I seem to recall, which is why I held off ordering my M135i. We're still waiting for the LCI for the 1 Series.

 

[bilen]

That's what I had in mind...

I think I have read we will see some new engines in Paris. 3 cyl diesel. With the facelift in march additional new engines will be offered, b48. Though I think the N55 will still be there even in march.
Not sure when the b58 will be offered.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I think I have read we will see some new engines in Paris. 3 cyl diesel. With the facelift in march additional new engines will be offered, b48. Though I think the N55 will still be there even in march.
Not sure when the b58 will be offered.

I expect the 1 Series LCI to debut at Paris, which opens to the public on Saturday 4th October. I am going on the 6th.

The 114d and 116d will adopt the B37 engine in November 2014.

LCI starts production in March 2015. Then we'll get the B38 engines in the 114i and 116i, B37 in the 118d, and the B47 in the 120d and 125d.

M135i will keep N55 for a while longer, and then move to the B58 in July 2016. At the same time, the 120i and 125i will get the B48.

 

[Cabasse0]

I don't think that Bmw will present the 1lci during paris motor show as they want to focus on the launch of the 2 active tourer which is a key product for the french market

 

[Mr Robert]

Yeah, but I want to know sooner rather than later.

 

[Cabasse0]

I expect the 1 Series LCI to debut at Paris, which opens to the public on Saturday 4th October. I am going on the 6th.

The 114d and 116d will adopt the B37 engine in November 2014.

LCI starts production in March 2015. Then we'll get the B38 engines in the 114i and 116i, B37 in the 118d, and the B47 in the 120d and 125d.

M135i will keep N55 for a while longer, and then move to the B58 in July 2016. At the same time, the 120i and 125i will get the B48.

It is more logical that the b48 will also be available from march 2015 as it is already available for the 2 active tourer

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I don't think that Bmw will present the 1lci during paris motor show as they want to focus on the launch of the 2 active tourer which is a key product for the french market

The 2 Series Active Tourer was launched in Geneva in March!

 

[klier]

6 months off? I expect it to be launched at Paris.

Why would they show it in October and launch it almost half a year later? And maybe it doesn't even launch at a motor show. Maybe they'll have some internet event or whatever.

 

[Giannis]

Only Scott can help us

I disagree.

Only God can help us, if BMW's new entry level sedan comes with FWD. I never thought I'd see the Audification of BMW...

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Well there have been plenty of examples of BMWs being shown at motor show, only to start production 5 months later.

I may be wrong though. Or, the 1er LCI gets its debut at Geneva in March 15, and the 3er LCI gets a debut later.

 

[Mr Robert]

I don't thonk BMW would premiere both the 1-series and the 3-series LCIs at the same time, so I'm with you on that part.

Regarding the 1-series, it has been three years since its debut. Could be due, could also be some time left.

 

[klier]

I disagree.

Only God can help us, if BMW's new entry level sedan comes with FWD. I never thought I'd see the Audification of BMW...

This thread is about the F20 RWD 1er, 2Pac
As horrible as it all is, lets saviour these last years with compact RWD hatches we have left

 

[Rolf]

I expect the 1 Series LCI to debut at Paris, which opens to the public on Saturday 4th October. I am going on the 6th.

The 114d and 116d will adopt the B37 engine in November 2014.

LCI starts production in March 2015. Then we'll get the B38 engines in the 114i and 116i, B37 in the 118d, and the B47 in the 120d and 125d.

M135i will keep N55 for a while longer, and then move to the B58 in July 2016. At the same time, the 120i and 125i will get the B48.

Seems right as saw this same info on the Autoevolution website.

 

[Cabasse0]

I was waiting to buy a 120i lci so it Will be another car

 

[Mr Robert]

Well, are there any non-Euro6 compliant engines in the 1-series lineup?

 

[bmwblog]

They don't always have to use a major show to unveil a facelift. All I can tell you is that they always reveal the photos on the web before an auto show, and so far, we don't have any. And we usually have them with at least a week before unveil.

So our bet is: no 1 Series LCI in Paris. First drives are also only next Spring.

Advice: don't always fall for sites that are not well connected. Some just recycle info or use common sense.

The only motor shows between Paris and Geneva next March are Los Angeles in November and Detroit in January, and the 1 Series isn't sold in the U.S., so it won't be launched there. I expect the 3 Series LCI to get its facelift debut in Geneva next March, so it won't be the 1 Series then.



No, Scott isn't the only one who can help us. There are other sources out there other than Scott. In fact Scott is often WRONG. He said the 1 Series LCI was the next major release, and that was April I seem to recall, which is why I held off ordering my M135i. We're still waiting for the LCI for the 1 Series.

 

[Mr Robert]

Gee, I wish common sense would prevail...

 

[bmwblog]

It's so easy to go on the web and stay exclusive news or breaking news and then you leverage some well known facts and add a few speculations. BAM, done! But us that have been around for a while now (8 yrs), we've seen it all and understand a lot of the moving pieces. Do we always get it right? No! But we try to be as accurate as possible. Same as when Scott posts something, we try to make sense of that before jumping into Breaking News mode. He's right many times, but also wrong sometimes.

And as far as 1 Series LCI, I just don't know why BMW would keep that a secret for Paris. They could easily bring the car to Detroit, it's the largest auto show and no major product announcement. It's not an U.S. show only and in fact, the show is handled entirely by BMW AG, not NA.

Gee, I wish common sense would prevail...

 

[Betty Swollocks]

And as far as 1 Series LCI, I just don't know why BMW would keep that a secret for Paris. They could easily bring the car to Detroit, it's the largest auto show and no major product announcement. It's not an U.S. show only and in fact, the show is handled entirely by BMW AG, not NA.

I don't think they would keep it secret. There's still time for them to announce it before Paris yet.

No way would the 1 Series be shown in Detroit when they don't even sell the car in North America!