A8/S8 [Spyshots] 2018 Audi A8 Spy Pics & Info


^you probably don't have any idea how close you are :)

I think I do to be honest :D
I like tech and stuff like this is perfect for cars.

Those G11 climate 'buttons' already reminded me of real haptic feedback, but I guess it was too soon for BMW and the G11.
 
I think I do to be honest :D
I like tech and stuff like this is perfect for cars.

Those G11 climate 'buttons' already reminded me of real haptic feedback, but I guess it was too soon for BMW and the G11.

Check you out @klier , you actually provided something new and insightful!
You've gone weak man! :all_cohol

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I think I do to be honest :D
I like tech and stuff like this is perfect for cars.

Those G11 climate 'buttons' already reminded me of real haptic feedback, but I guess it was too soon for BMW and the G11.

A certain kind of haptic feedback has already been implemented and tested in various electronic devices and cars as well. The question is not whether one can do it but how exactly it is done. Tests show that for certain tasks tactile feedback is distracting and hampers performance...
 
The comparison between the G11/12 7 series and D5 Audi A8/S8 promises to be quite intriguing. I suspect that the cars will be markedly different in terms of character with regard to design executions of interiors as well as exteriors. But very similar regarding agility, tech offerings, etc.
 
A certain kind of haptic feedback has already been implemented and tested in various electronic devices and cars as well. The question is not whether one can do it but how exactly it is done. Tests show that for certain tasks tactile feedback is distracting and hampers performance...

Haptic's as you can see is taken very seriously at BMW.
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OT that Z4 looks good in this video.
 
^ We were talking out LCD screens with actual buttons popping up. Not the feel of the materials/real buttons inside a car.
 
^ We were talking out LCD screens with actual buttons popping up. Not the feel of the materials/real buttons inside a car.
Exactly.

The tech in the video you posted is really one of the very cool implementations of haptic feedback (there are also quite boring ones) but it probably shares one problem with other feedback solutions: longevity.
 
So now what's the next separation in all of this haptic technology? Tactile Haptic - haptic technology which you can physically touch (like raised buttons on a display panel) vs. Virtual Haptic - haptic technology which manifests a response to the touch (like a vibration) or proximity of touch.

How about negative reinforcement haptic technology? Pressing the wrong button at an inappropriate time dishes out a mild electric shock to dissuade poor decision making? Like switching of the DSC when approaching a busy intersection. I kid and am serious at the same time.
 
Leave it guys, please.

So now what's the next separation in all of this haptic technology? Tactile Haptic - haptic technology which you can physically touch (like raised buttons on a display panel) vs. Virtual Haptic - haptic technology which manifests a response to the touch (like a vibration) or proximity of touch.

The first, raised buttons on a display. The latter is already widespread, just hardly found on cars.
 
Audi A8 tech secrets revealed ahead of 2017 launch

New styling direction, advanced new technology and electric turbocharged engines confirmed for next-gen Audi A8
Audi bosses have lifted the lid on some of the revolutionary tech that will make its way into the next-generation Audi A8 saloon when it arrives in 2017.

Everything from Audi's piloted driving autonomous car tech to gesture control, and organic LED lighting will find its way into Audi’s flagship saloon, ensuring it becomes the technological showcase it needs to be to tackle the Mercedes S-Class. The new A8 will also be the first model from Audi to feature the brand’s new design language as showcased by the Audi Prologue concept at the LA Motor Show last year.

• Audi A7 drives itself on public roads
“The A8 will be the next-generation of the every successful vehicle model for Audi, so what we are doing is looking at which future technologies make sense for our customers, what do they expect and how can we surprise out customers,” Audi's technical development chief Prof. Dr. Ulrich Hackenberg told Auto Express. “The next level of sophisticated technology will be in the A8.”

New A8 to drive itself with Audi Piloted Driving tech
Revolutionary piloted driving tech has been confirmed for the A8. Long-range radar sensors, 12 ultrasonic sensors, laser scanners and hi-resolution video cameras will constantly monitor the car’s surroundings, with the system also able to guide a car safely through traffic jams at up to speeds of 37mph.

Audi believes up to 90 per cent of all innovation in the automotive sector will come from electronics, with lighting playing a significant part. Matrix LED technology is still relatively new but Audi is already working to move the game on further. “We are working on the integration of organic LEDs,” said Ricky Hudi, Head of Electronics at Audi. He claims the advancement will enable “new forms of expression and differentiation”, with their main use expected to be in a car's digital displays.


Those displays will also be operated by gesture control, a feature also confirmed for the facelifted VW Golf due next year. “We are already working on a new gesture control system as an advanced development,” said Hudi. In-car operations such as adjusting the temperate, answering incoming calls and switching between radio stations will move from button operation to gesture control.

“The A8 is a good car to introduce some of these technologies because it is always good to start with a premium offering,” added Hackenberg.

Electric turbos for new Audi engines
But advancements won’t stop at in-car technology with Dr. Hackenberg also confirming the A8 will feature electric turbocharging. “We are preparing the production of such systems and it will be in the market with the A8 as well as other models in the future”, he said.


With the next-generation A8 to be based on the new MLB platform, around 200kg of excess weight is expected to be shed, while new and revised V6 and V8 engines will be offered. A plug-in hybrid version under Audi’s e-tron strategy is also certain, with the brand committing to having a plug-in hybrid model in each of its model ranges.

All of this technology will be wrapped up in a whole new look for the A8, too. It will be the first model from Audi to feature the new design language from the Prologue concept penned by new design chief Marc Licht. Expect bolder styling, exaggerated proportions and a new take on the trademark wide-mouthed grille.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/a8/91569/audi-a8-tech-secrets-revealed-ahead-of-2017-launch
 
Obviously, there will soon be D5 customer testing going on in the Cologne region. At least, there is one supplier asking various panels for D segment customers in their databases. So, if one of you guys lives in that region and drives a 7er, S Class, A8, Panamera, XJ, or Quattroporte ... watch out. They might come for you :)
 
Obviously, there will soon be D5 customer testing going on in the Cologne region. At least, there is one supplier asking various panels for D segment customers in their databases. So, if one of you guys lives in that region and drives a 7er, S Class, A8, Panamera, XJ, or Quattroporte ... watch out. They might come for you :)
I live in that region! So come for me, Audi!
 
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With all this new S8 Plus stuff I have been checking some old reviews (2014) that compared the S8 with the S63 AMG. Automobile Mag said the S8 had class leading fit and finish, featuring the best interior design.

This leaves me wondering what the next A8 will be like, taking into account what @EnI has said about VAG investing this huge money on the project.
 
2017 Audi A8 rendered with Prologue concept influences
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2017 Audi A8 render / Automedia
To be the first Audi with a new styling language
The next generation Audi A8 (D5) has been speculatively rendered using as foundation the Prologue concept.

Audi has been relatively quiet about its all-new flagship model, but we do know it will be the company's first model to utilize a new styling language developed by Marc Lichte, the man in charge with the designs coming out of Ingolstadt. He is responsible for the Prologue concepts and has already promised a more differentiated look among models, starting with the next-gen A8, A6 and A7 ranges.

Last time we heard, the new A8 was supposed to come out next year, but apparently it has been pushed back until late 2017 as Audi wants more time to perfect semi-autonomous driving technology which will premiere on their crown jewel. The full-size executive sedan will be able to driver itself at speeds of up to 37 mph (60 km/h) and it will also be capable of finding an empty space and park itself.

We know from company's board member for technical development Ulrich Hackenberg the next A8 will employ electric turbochargers and it is believed the new platform will ensure a weight loss of approximately 200 kg (441 lbs). One of the engines which has already been confirmed is the new 6.0-liter twin-turbo W12 TSI that debuted in the Bentley Bentayga with 608 PS (447 kW) and 900 Nm (663 lb-ft). Plug-in hybrid and pure electric derivatives are believed to be in the works as well, but Audi hasn't said anything about adding more frugal versions and even if planned, these won't be out from day one.

As far as the interior cabin is concerned, it's bound to receive OLED technology for the screens and a new infotainment system with support for gesture controls. Expect to see fewer physical buttons and knobs while the added tech goodies should diminish distractions behind the steering wheel.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115092099216/2017-audi-a8-rendered-with-prologue-concept-influences
 
Another delayed Audi, their model cycle is over 8 years compared to 7 for BMW and Mercedes
 
Sometimes i have the impression that this board is read by a lot of people in the media and industry.
 

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