SL-Class [Spyshots] 2017 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class (R231) Facelift

[Serpens]

U mean the v8 from the c63 and amg GT? That will be something interesting if they bring that engine across the whole merc 500 lineup

It's already in the G550

 

[merc4]

U mean the v8 from the c63 and amg GT? That will be something interesting if they bring that engine across the whole merc 500 lineup

Exactly that is what the articles say. But there is already a difference between the engine in the GT and C class in the AMG guise. So probably for non AMG cars there should be some aditional differences. As Serpens wrote just before me, the engine is already a couple of month in the G500, where it puts out 310 Kw. But if this engine is to replace the old AMG 5,5 V8 biturbo and non AMG 4,7 V8 biturbo, than Mercedes would make just one V8 engine, of course in many variations. That is something I find unlikely. I am not much adept in technical details, but if the new engine is a derivation of the 2,0 biturbo AMG I am not sure if it is suitable for non sports cars like the S class.

 

[HUTSUTAo]

Exactly that is what the articles say. But there is already a difference between the engine in the GT and C class in the AMG guise. So probably for non AMG cars there should be some aditional differences. As Serpens wrote just before me, the engine is already a couple of month in the G500, where it puts out 310 Kw. But if this engine is to replace the old AMG 5,5 V8 biturbo and non AMG 4,7 V8 biturbo, than Mercedes would make just one V8 engine, of course in many variations. That is something I find unlikely. I am not much adept in technical details, but if the new engine is a derivation of the 2,0 biturbo AMG I am not sure if it is suitable for non sports cars like the S class.

The current s500 makes 455ps, which is very close to the standard c63 and amg gt. I guess Mercedes will have difficultly trying to get what to tune the engine power to in the event that they switch the whole lineup to the new 4 litre engine

 

[Rolf]

FL S500 will most likely get 4.0ltr V8 with C63 standard spec of 350kw (476PS) and 700nm (slightly more than 650NM of C63) as then it will produce more power than the current model with equal torque.

The big question mark for me will be the S600 V12 engine, when will AMG bring out a new V12 to replace this long in the tooth aged engine?

 

[HUTSUTAo]

FL S500 will most likely get 4.0ltr V8 with C63 standard spec of 350kw (476PS) and 700nm (slightly more than 650NM of C63) as then it will produce more power than the current model with equal torque.

The big question mark for me will be the S600 V12 engine, when will AMG bring out a new V12 to replace this long in the tooth aged engine?

Isnt it possible to join 2 in line 6 to form a new v12 engine

 

[lukeswiss]

@Wolfgang surely you have some more info ? the anticipation is killing me.

 

[Wolfgang]

^ Autocar claims the engine lineup might not change? Did you hear any rumors in Affalterbach?

The SL’s engine line-up is unlikely to change significantly, meaning the current range of 3.0-litre V6, 4.6-litre and 5.5-litre V8s and 6.0-litre V12 engines will carry over. The high-performance SL63 has also been spotted testing, and is understood to be keeping its current 577bhp 5.5-litre V8 engine.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...enz-sl-facelift-previewed-ahead-la-motor-show

 

[Rolf]

Isnt it possible to join 2 in line 6 to form a new v12 engine

Yes this is how the first Mercedes V12 engine was born in the 1991 600SEL, they took the then 3.0 24valve inline six and mated two blocks together to form the V12, which most likely could happen to the next gen V12 but it's a good question when this engine will arrive maybe 2018/2019?

 

[Monster]

Ok guys I have created the official thread here

http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/2017-mercedes-benz-sl-class-facelift.54524/

 

[vios1]

I think MB needs to re-position the SL segment in order there will not be any conflict of interest within their own product.