Range Rover Sport [Spy Shots] 2022 Range Rover Sport

[martinbo]

buckle up, buttercups:

ZeroHedge

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ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Doesn't matter how many posts Merc, Scott and the others put up. No one right in the head is buying 10 mpg(US), $100-200k+, non-necessity purchases, when to fill a tank costs north of 100 bucks(nearly $200 bucks equivalent in UK), and the purchase can not be rationalised by flipping, or realising 90%+ of rrp after 12 months. The only game in town for this bracket, this type of customer, in UK especially, but also increasingly in California, and east coast US, is EV - high-end EV - from iXs, through Rivian/Lucid, to EQS SUV, to Spectre etc.

The give-the-game-away is the painfully obvious pushing of the 'New Electric Range Rover Sport' - the one not a thing for at least 2 years - in the promotion, launching of the new RR Sport. Similar happened with the new Full-fat, but they've amped to 11, the subterfuge of the 'New Electric... ', to subliminally lull punters and the world into believing JLR is in the game - the only game in town - EV- Posh EV - THEY'RE NOT.

$6 gas kills JLR stone dead. It was already dead due to no EV. 2 years is 2 years - minimum. You may think JLR is exceptional, and has a divine right to exist. It isn't, and it doesn't. It's bust. Been bust for at least 6 years. It stays alive to save the embarrassment of the UK establishment, and similar for India. Force Majeure, say a world war, or another 'Pandemic', night give these countries cover to pull the plug on it, when it's been dead for ages.

Oooh, you remind so much of a former member who was the same harbinger of doom and vehemently anti-JLR too. I just can't recall the user name just yet but it'll come to me!

 

[Merc1]

Oooh, you remind so much of a former member who was the same harbinger of doom and vehemently anti-JLR too. I just can't recall the user name just yet but it'll come to me!

The sooner the better.

M

 

[martinbo]

The sooner the better.

M

Something beginning with a K - c'mon, who was that? I'm too busy waiting for your robust debate in the 7er thread.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

As no one from the Media has bothered to analyse JLR's situation, especially in light of its sizeable quarter loss(but still massively less than real) - they dare not of course, 'the third rail', don't want to pick up their P45s, or be off the gravytrain - so allow me.

This was inspired this morning by this odd little site, which to be fair to it at least attempted some analysis - compared to zero by the 'heavyweights'/'doyens' like Steve Cropley, Hilton Holloway, Jonny Lieberman, Angus MacKenzie, and of course 'inside-track'/deepthroat' merchant Georg Kacher, not to mention Bloomberg, Reuters, FT, The Times, Guardian, Telegraph, This is Money(Daily Mail), and the 'heavyweight' rags in India.

Jaguar Land Rover is 'happy' with the chip shortage

The global chip shortage is hitting the auto industry hard. Nevertheless, Jaguar Land Rover is not completely dissatisfied with the current state of affairs. According to CEO Thierry Bolloré, Jaguar Land Rover cars have become a lot more attractive. With fewer cars leaving the production line...

www.ruetir.com

This is what Bollore was really saying, spelling it out as clearly as he could, without stating the bleeding obvious:

- 'JLR' will be a fraction of the size it was/was planned to be under Speth

- the garbage, non-Range Rover/Range Rover clone models, will be chopped - wither and die - DSport/Evoque/E-Pace, Velar/F-Pace - hence the massive output fall

- 'JLR' will be pitching itself as Bentley/Rolls-Royce - for price and margin

- 'Jaguar' is still a 'TBA', i.e. no one's come forward to buy it, or show any interest

- everything, as anyone with a brain knew, is bet on Range Rover and its clones - RRSport/Defender/Discovery(5)

- Bollore's masters in Bombay hope this hyper-margin, much reduced overhead strategy - inevitable car plant closures?, major white collar sackings? - will allow them to float JLR on the stock market, and so be rid of it, and get a few bob.

- the clue is in the drip, drip of the new Range Rover order situation - now a whopping 46,000 - according to straight as a die source JLR - up from the 30/31,000 a couple/three months ago - wow!

- this is meant to show that JLR as a floated entity could be mega profitable - approaching Bentley margins, with a multiple of output - that's how they'll pitch the IPO

In summary, JLR is in a worse situation than ever. Posh-EV has killed it stone dead; the ending of the flipping mania amongst greedy idiots in the UK, and to an extent US, buying Defenders etc; and now the almost explicitly stated need to massively shrink the company, both on the production plant side and the overhead cost side - thousands, tens of thousands of white collars for the chop.

So much truth in that post: RR, Bollore, JLR, and especially, the so called expert “journalists” mentioned.

 

[martinbo]

Kilcaid, Kildare - shit, something like that. Not showing up in the user list search just yet.

 

[Merc1]

Something beginning with a K - c'mon, who was that? I'm too busy waiting for your robust debate in the 7er thread.

I can’t remember but I think they’re back and really triggered.

M

 

[Heisenberg]

Kilcaid, Kildare - shit, something like that. Not showing up in the user list search just yet.

Kilcrohane?

 

[martinbo]

Kilcrohane?

I remembered driving in the car! The very one. The similarities are remarkable.

 

[Merc1]

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[BMW4ever]

Yep, America just can't get enough of 10 mpg, $100-200k+ fragile toys right now - consumer confidence booming, and double-digit gas showing how buoyant, and off-the-scale demand is:

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

'In fact, as people face $100 tanks of gas and skyrocketing grocery prices, the Economic Optimism Index poll from IBD/TIPP plunged 9.5% in May, dropping to 41.2 - which, as Issues & Insights' editorial board notes, puts it firmly in the pessimism zone.

This marks the worst reading since the height of the COVID pandemic, which bottomed out at 44 in July 2020.

Meanwhile, the PBD/TIPP Financial Stress Index has skyrocketed - hitting 69.3 (above 50 indicates 'high stress') - or around where it was during the 2008 financial crisis. Under Biden's watch it's climbed 22%.'

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Even the thickest and most avid consumer of mainstream media, hence utterly lied to and brainwashed, flipper, of real estate and 'high end' cars, must have got the memo by now. The US is NOT in stagflation, is NOT experiencing a post-Pandemic boom in pent-up demand, causing shortages in everything, IS experiencing a 1930s Great Depression on steroids - demand for all but the essentials has collapsed across the board - PLUS, IS suffering 1970s+++ (hyper)inflation - a situation that has NEVER existed in the US.

The shortages and price hikes are artificial and deliberate - nat gas(LNG) shipped abroad, a lot of diesel too, and the food shortage completely contrived and orchestrated. Anything you actually need has had its price pushed through the roof. Anything you think you need - high-end cars/toys,, $m+ housing/speculation in real estate, 'investments' in digital currency. digital 'art' etc - is actually in freefall, demand - has been since around March - the Media must have forgotten to tell you.

The only thing in the car world with demand is high-end EV, due to the virtue signalling of the type of people who buy them, AND the insane, perverse incentives, flat-out huge subsidising of them, by govts, paid for by poor taxpayers, who can barely afford food, rent, energy bills etc.

IN UK, you can write off the full cost of your Taycan, iX, soon i7, EQS SUV, etc, 'bought by your company', against the profits of the company in the first year for tax. Insane. Add to that no road tax, usually/always charged from home, not 'work', with cheaper electricity, huge resale values, the bragging of being Green, saving the planet, and it's no wonder these cars in multi-year waiting lists - genuine.

The new Sport and Full-fat are at Ground Zero of this economic hydrogen bomb that has gone off and laid the US and UK economies waste. The deafening silence from all the 'top' pundits, and usual suspects, who are normally wheeled out to defend JLR, and its always imminent stunning prospects, is telling. They know it's awful. They know you can't do Baghdad Bob/Comical Ali this time and claim all is alright, just keep the faith. They know the best thing now is just to keep radio silence and hope something miraculous turns up, or they get to their pension before it really all blows up - JLR outed as the 21st century Enron, and takes down all those associated with it, from the modern-day Big 4 Arthur Andersens, to the very high profile - usually - JLR mouthpieces,

 

[SKY]

Yep, America just can't get enough of 10 mpg, $100-200k+ fragile toys right now - consumer confidence booming, and double-digit gas showing how buoyant, and off-the-scale demand is:

Hey Sherlock, this is a car forum. Not a hate forum.

Folcks here enter the site to read about cars, not your personal phobias.

 

[Jacke]

The mods should make a dislike button i think?

 

[rollo]

The mods should make a dislike button i think?

We used to have one but it became another thing to carry-on about. Why did you dislike my post? We even had an altercation where a well known member disliked every post (like hundreds) from a habitual antagonistic newer member in retaliation of his fondness of using the dislike feature, if my memory serves. It was actually one of the funniest hazes I have seen here over the years. In any event, it caused more trouble than it was worth and we do have an ignore option.

 

[Jacke]

We used to have one but it became another thing to carry-on about. Why did you dislike my post? We even had an altercation where a well known member disliked every post (like hundreds) from a habitual antagonistic newer member in retaliation of his fondness of using the dislike feature, if my memory serves. It was actually one of the funniest hazes I have seen here over the years. In any event, it caused more trouble than it was worth and we do have an ignore option.

Nice response,didnt know this had a dislike button before cause im preeety new here

 

[Jacke]

IRL pics

 

[Ghost1]

It looks like an old one.

The big RR is a masterpiece. This one is nothing really special.

 

[Merc1]

In all fairness those are terrible pictures. It looks better here:

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[klier]

The proportions are great and that front overhang is epic.

Hmmm...hadn't properly looked at the front overhang yet, and you're right; it IS epic. Shorter than maybe even a Mini.

 

[klier]

We used to have one but it became another thing to carry-on about. Why did you dislike my post? We even had an altercation where a well known member disliked every post (like hundreds) from a habitual antagonistic newer member in retaliation of his fondness of using the dislike feature, if my memory serves. It was actually one of the funniest hazes I have seen here over the years. In any event, it caused more trouble than it was worth and we do have an ignore option.

I once woke up to AT LEAST 300 dislikes from @BigBenzGirl

I had a very good laugh and a great morning.

 

[Merc1]

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