911 [Spy Shots] 2013 Porsche 911 GT3 first spy pictures

[Mr Robert]

So, the GT3 goes mainstream and the goodies are left for the RS?

 

[Sunny]

the motor will be a 3.8 liter flat-6 using the GT1 block still (thank goodness) with dry sump naturally putting out 450 horsepower.

What I read is the opposite, no more Mezger block, just a 9A1 derivative with lightened internals and dry sump.

So, the GT3 goes mainstream and the goodies are left for the RS?

The problem is the goodies - PDK, electric steering, 4 wheel steering...

 

[Levi68]

If even the GT3 has no more manual, I think it the manual is dead for ever. The coming M4 and M2 are left. Good there'll always be the GT86.

 

[DeDe]

7.34 min is probably a guess. 991 Carrera S PDK did 7.38 with only sport suspension and P Zero tyres. The new GT3 PDK on semi-slicks should be at least 10 seconds faster.

 

[Sunny]

7.34 min is probably a guess. 991 Carrera S PDK did 7.38 with only sport suspension and P Zero tyres. The new GT3 PDK on semi-slicks should be at least 10 seconds faster.

991 GT3 test cars have been spoted with P Zeros, so if there is any truth to that 7:34 lap time, it is possibly with the same tires.

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

I really like Michelin SuperSports. That's what I would of used for my road car.

 

[DeDe]

991 GT3 test cars have been spoted with P Zeros, so if there is any truth to that 7:34 lap time, it is possibly with the same tires.

So semi-slicks will be optional.

 

[Mr Robert]

The problem is the goodies - PDK, electric steering, 4 wheel steering...

My dear Sunny, those are the badies...

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Don't think this chop has been posted yet:

 

[Sunny]

 

[JHF]

I can't wait for the 991 GT3 RS. It's going to be track-killer.

 

[DeDe]

These are my estimations on the 991 GT3's performance, I'm curious how close I'll get...

Acceleration 0-100 km/h:
3,6 s - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2)
3,7 s - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991)
3,8 s - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)
4,0 s - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2)

Acceleration 0-200 km/h:
11,5 s - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2)
12,0 s - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991)
12,8 s - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2)
13,2 s - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)

Hockenheimring short course (2,6 km) - Sport Auto Supertest:
1.09,3 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1.09,5 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1.09,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.10,4 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.10,4 min - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

Nürburgring-Nordschleife (20,6 km) - Sport Auto Supertest:
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
7.35 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
7.40 min - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
7.44 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero

Sachsenring (3,671 km) - AutoBild Sportscars:
1:33,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1:34,5 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.34,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 3.8 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1.35,2 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.36,1 min - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

 

[paxah]

These are my estimations on the 991 GT3's performance, I'm curious how close I'll get...

Acceleration 0-100 km/h:
3,6 s - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2)
3,7 s - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991)
3,8 s - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)
4,0 s - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2)

Acceleration 0-200 km/h:
11,5 s - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2)
12,0 s - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991)
12,8 s - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2)
13,2 s - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)

Hockenheimring short course (2,6 km) - Sport Auto Supertest:
1.09,3 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1.09,5 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1.09,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.10,4 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.10,4 min - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

Nürburgring-Nordschleife (20,6 km) - Sport Auto Supertest:
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
7.35 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
7.40 min - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
7.44 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero

Sachsenring (3,671 km) - AutoBild Sportscars:
1:33,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1:34,5 min - Porsche 911 GT3 PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.34,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 3.8 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
1.35,2 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991) - Pirelli P Zero
1.36,1 min - Porsche 911 GT3 (997.2) - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

Good estimations but only 3 seconds faster than the Carrera S on the ring (with the Pirelli)? I doubt it.
I would say 7:30 with the Pirellis

 

[paxah]

Wait, 7:30 is way too fast!
I don't know, i'd say your estimations are closer. LOL

 

[Levi68]

The info posted by Hot-Ice on the top if ths page (9), almost made me lose interest/excitment about the new 911 GT3. This new info just makes me so f*cking happy and excited:

"The engine in the 911 GT3 (911) is not the DFI 9A1 and it is not the Mezger. It is a bespoke motorsports block, and is the basis for the next generation Cup engine. It is a new engine built from scratch."

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9.000 RPM!!!!!

 

[DeDe]

9000 rpm

 

[Levi68]

From the second the pic of the rev counter with 9.000 RPM was posted on the net, prices of of used GT3/GT3 RS must have dropped significantly.

 

[Human]

From the second the pic of the rev counter with 9.000 RPM was posted on the net, prices of of used GT3/GT3 RS must have dropped significantly.

And what is actually funny for some and sad for others - (who buys the 2used ones) It's a Porsche! Depreciation is a word not connected to the famous sports car brand.

 

[Sunny]

From the second the pic of the rev counter with 9.000 RPM was posted on the net, prices of of used GT3/GT3 RS must have dropped significantly.

The 997.2 GT3 RS prices been creeping up recently with hardly any in the market here. They went from 120-130s to 140s. This should probably make that come down again.

 

[Sunny]

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