XF 2013 Jaguar XF Sportbrake Spy Shots and Official Pics

[Deckhook]

@Kilcrohane, can you share with us the LandRovers and Jaguars that you have owned so we can understand your utter distaste for the brand?

 

[martinbo]

@Kilcrohane, can you share with us the LandRovers and Jaguars that you have owned so we can understand your utter distaste for the brand?

Kilcrohane doesn't have to do anything of the sort as he isn't claiming to have owned/driven any of them nor is he imparting any personal, subjective views on the ownership or driving experience. Therefore doesn't have to answer your request if chosen not to.

Kilcrohane likes German cars - most of them at least - and dislikes JLR products for his own reason. The cars he's owned are thus immaterial in this context. Quite unlike you who claims to have such extensive experience with so many cars.

 

[Gianclaudio]

Quite unlike you who claims to have such extensive experience with so many cars.

 

[Deckhook]

Kilcrohane doesn't have to do anything of the sort as he isn't claiming to have owned/driven any of them nor is he imparting any personal, subjective views on the ownership or driving experience. Therefore doesn't have to answer your request if chosen not to.

Kilcrohane likes German cars - most of them at least - and dislikes JLR products for his own reason. The cars he's owned are thus immaterial in this context. Quite unlike you who claims to have such extensive experience with so many cars.

This comment really does surprise me considering he makes claims of poor reliability, build, materials, residuals, etc, these are generally comments one would make if they having or had experience of especially bad experience of a product and making such a comment without this is trolling at best and for my 'claims of ownership' well I at least have provided photos of the majority I've owned so if I make a comment on something especially if that comment states something is piss poor then at least I have had this experience to back it up, if you choose to disbelieve my claims then I simply call that sour grapes and personal as I don't see you questioning anyone else.

Maybe the reason you and others aren't taking a dislike to his rants is the fact that they are not about your beloved German brands.

 

[martinbo]

You missed the point entirely: this has NOTHING to do with vehicle ownership, extended use or whatever. Kilcrohane is laying no such claim to any of it. He has an issue with JLR products and contests their claims, their PR & marketing etc and provides links to information available in the public domain. The outright quality, relevance and validity of this information is not under discussion here; it is up to members of this community to factually and substantively prove otherwise.

Kilcrohane is not in any way claiming personal experience with JLR products and therefore is not obligated to provide any such information.

You too, were never obligated to prove ownership BUT you chose to do so. This is because public members questioned your personal claims of ownership, experience etc and you chose to provide evidence.

This matter is not up for debate; these are the differentiating circumstances - no ifs and buts - end of discussion.