X6 Spy pics: BMW X6 SAC (part 2).

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That actually looks pretty cool.

 

[PanterroR]

That actually looks pretty cool.

Damn right!

And wait till you see it with bigger rims and painted plastics...

 

[Sayyaaf]

Tycoon: Its hot already with small rims. Not only hot, its "cool" & unique.

 

[PanterroR]

Tycoon: Its hot already with small rims. Not only hot, its "cool" & unique.

It's looking very nice i'd say, but it'll look even better with some big 20/21"s...

 

[LaArtist]

gotta wait for better pics.. to judge..

 

[EMpower]

That's a sharp kink. So far so good. Need some hi-res pics.

 

[EnI]

That's a sharp kink. So far so good. Need some hi-res pics.

Not the real deal but renderings based on spy pics.

 

[SCOTT27]

Something that really I dont understand is the negative approach the X6 has received. It is not BMW's "aztec" nor is it seen as a threat to the X5.
Some of the early reports are indicating that the poor rear headroom and sloping roof will hinder sales. Sorry if you need the space buy a X5 but if you want performance , agility and class leading dynamics Welcome to the X6.

The next phase in Extreme Sport.
This is what the marketing message of the BMW X6 Sport Activity Coupe will entail.
X6 is not about luggage space , X6 is not about additional seating for passengers . X6 is about performance , agility and technology which equals the best driving sport activity vehicle - BMW's claims.
What you see here are digitally manipulated images what you don't see are the additional metallic colors and additional wheel options when you see all this together then you get the better impression of the X6's intentions.
BMW know this car will be a success and have already greenlighted the even number-brother the X4 .

When you see the X6 I think you will be surprised. It is a new class of vehicle with a new level of driving dynamics and excitement.
The anticipation commences from September.

 

[PanterroR]

OK and will we see it at IAA or...?

 

[EMpower]

Something that really I dont understand is the negative approach the X6 has received. It is not BMW's "aztec" nor is it seen as a threat to the X5.
Some of the early reports are indicating that the poor rear headroom and sloping roof will hinder sales. Sorry if you need the space buy a X5 but if you want performance , agility and class leading dynamics Welcome to the X6.

The next phase in Extreme Sport.
This is what the marketing message of the BMW X6 Sport Activity Coupe will entail.
X6 is not about luggage space , X6 is not about additional seating for passengers . X6 is about performance , agility and technology which equals the best driving sport activity vehicle - BMW's claims.

Agree with Scott. X6 is not a people mover. Different target market.

The anticipation commences from September.

That means we will see at IAA.

 

[chonkoa]

BMW know this car will be a success and have already greenlighted the even number-brother the X4

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Isn't that left for the consumers to decides. Whether it is successful or not will be reflected by the sales numbers.

When you see the X6 I think you will be surprised. It is a new class of vehicle with a new level of driving dynamics and excitement.
The anticipation commences from September.

Although I love the BMW brand, I am not so sure if I see the X6 the way you see it.
I think with what we have seen from Infiniti thus far (FX35/45 & EX35), I won't say the X6 is as earth shattering as you would want me to believe.
Does it look nice- yes.
Will it offer excellent driving experience- I have no doubt.
Is it the first of its kind- I don't think so.

 

[Merc1]

Looks pretty good to me. Its the M version I'll be awaiting.

M

 

[RikfromBelgium]

OK and will we see it at IAA or...?

yeah but he says "anticipation, so that means concept of some sort

 

[PanterroR]

yeah but he says "anticipation, so that means concept of some sort

I know, but i still wanted him to confirm...

 

[martinbo]

Seldom has the presentation of a new concept of car had me so perplexed as to how to rationalise / position the model in the market. Whilst some of the pics I've seen get me excited, others leave me unmoved. Eni and Scott, please tell BMW from us that the cat's out the bag and that the whole world knows that the X6 is coming. However, all of these dollied up spy pics aren't doing the X6 any good publicity. Release the official pics and info for heaven's sake; not for want of unbridled anticipation but rather to avoid what is shaping up to be an anti-climax for all intents and purposes.

A part of me says that I'm still quite keen on the idea, but the consumer in me continues to ask if - given the means - I'd ever buy one? Why would I want one of these over an X5? Is it in the driving dynamics stakes?
Well, ok, but if I'm not going for X5 versatility then surely an M5 Touring or M6 is clearly superior in the dynamic stakes? (Hang on a second, I'm not rubbishing the idea just yet...)

Ok, so what kind of consumer would want the X6? What is the customer profile? Typically I would expect that the X6 customers are:
Affluent, materialistic, exhibitionist, style-conscious, individualistic and arrogantly self-important.

Given such a profile if I were to buy an X6 I'd want something that is:
- Large and substantial feeling
- With a raised driving position for that omnipresent aloofness factor
- That rides and handles like a luxury saloon
- Without looking like a van
- and is exclusive and sophisticated without the family-oriented connotation

So, first and foremost, the X6 isn't about bringing a new level of driving dynamics to the SAC segment because, quite simply, the segment doesn't exist. Will the X6 handle light years better than a Porsche Cayenne, ML63 or even its X5 sibling? Doubtful.

Now, in my opinion the X6 is a statement car, a novelty that raises the prominence of the brand and gives people something new to ogle at. There's no doubting that the initial market reaction will be favourable given the hype factor. But, how the car will sell into the middle and end of its lifecycle will be very interesting indeed. I sense that the X6 has a measure of novelty factor as opposed to genuine versatility and value that made the previous X5 such a success even into its twilight months.

Oh, and on another note, an SAC maybe something new in concept but haven't we seen that silhouette before:

 

[RikfromBelgium]

first of all, forgetting X-coupé concept? second of all this car is hidious and drives like shite

 

[PanterroR]

So first and foremost, the X6 isn't about bringing a new level of driving dynamics to the SAC segment because, quite simply, the segment doesn't exist. Will the X6 handle light years better than a Porsche Cayenne, ML63 or even its X5 sibling? Doubtful.

I'm not doubting that, mostly because there will be an M version which should only mean that this car fulfils all conditions and criteria for making it (M) and the main one is to drive like a true M car. Before it becomes M, it must have basis and acc to BMW bosses, it has it. So, no worries about it's handling...

 

[martinbo]

first of all, forgetting X-coupé concept? second of all this car is hidious and drives like shite

Of course Rik, you've guessed that my example of the unspeakable Korean monstrosity is all a bit tongue in cheek... still, that fastback shape must cheese BMW off a teeny bit.

In terms of concept, yes, the X Coupe was around first but in terms of final execution it has very little in common with the X6. And thank heavens for that!

 

[martinbo]

Can a mod please resize that pic of the Ssangyong above into a thumbnail? It's spoiling this thread...

Tyc, I agree with you that the X6 will lend itself to the dynamic requirements of an M car more suitably than an X5 would. And, I anticipate that the "X6-M" will be appropriately fettled with a lower ground clearance, sportier wheels & tyres and so on, however, despite what the marketing people might say, this car will not be a true M car in the purist's sense.

It's unquestionable that BMW need an M oriented SAV to take on the likes of Porsche and AMG but the truth remains to be seen if the X6-M will exhibit the absolute superlative driving dynamics of the M cars to date.

 

[PanterroR]

Can a mod please resize that pic of the Ssangyong above into a thumbnail? It's spoiling this thread...

I think 800x600 doesn't spoil... Let me know if you still want a thumbnail...

Tyc, I agree with you that the X6 will lend itself to the dynamic requirements of an M car more suitably than an X5 would. And, I anticipate that the "X6-M" will be appropriately fettled with a lower ground clearance, sportier wheels & tyres and so on, however, despite what the marketing people might say, this car will not be a true M car in the purist's sense.

It's unquestionable that BMW need an M oriented SAV to take on the likes of Porsche and AMG but the truth remains to be seen if the X6-M will exhibit the absolute superlative driving dynamics of the M cars to date.

Martin, to be clear i'll never expect X6 M to drive like M3 or 5 or 6 and that is not possible as we all know; as you've said, they need it to take on ML63, Cayenne Turbo and such and therefore it must be something special to take on those and that's exactly that - an M version. You cannot take on those by simply putting big engine and bigger rims, it takes much more than that and that's where M division comes.