EQE [Renders] 2022 Mercedes-Benz EQE

[dalab]

I hope its permitted to write down his own opinion and critics to a car at this forum.

Of course, but you are giving your opinion as a fact, and the fact that has been amply demonstrated here and everywhere is that the solidity, build quality, materials and finishes of the i4 and BMW in general is ultimately better than that of Audi and Mercedes, especially the EQs have been quite criticized by everyone in that aspect and obviously complaining for the shake of........ since they must also be very good, but again if you compare them with your own "standard" the S Class, and it is when they are most evident.

we both have different standards for build quality and materials. I drive almost my whole life only S-Classes, so i think i can say i know what the benchmark is.

No, we don't have, the fact that you've driven S-Classes doesn't make you know what quality is any more than I do, that's a big mistake on your part, it's as if Checo Perez said that all cars are slow because he drives an F1, both would be wrong, since the world is a generality, not your universe.

the i4 is not a bad car, but its not much more then an electrified 3er with a little more legspace in te rear,

Exactly that's just what it is, but if you mention it disparagingly it sounds bad, like saying the EQE is an ugly bad adaptation of what an E-Class EV should be.
It is also noticeable that again you are measuring it against the S-Class and as I said, you are wrong from the base.

I repeat what I saw, there is a fact, a publication, compare them both and they understand that the EQE does not offer as much as it should and the i4 offers more than it should, just that.

 

[Matski]

Yesterday it was parked next to a BMW 1er sedan (fwd) and looked even worse.

I have to say, though I never have (and likely never will) experienced one in the flesh, the F52 looks like a really simple, solid, traditional, safe, BMW saloon design. Even if they'd just done it in M135i guise, I'd like to have seen it sold here. Looks far better than the 2GC we actually get.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

... Quite ugly car (not BMW terrible level, but still)…

This quote made my day I’m still smiling. As far as I’m concerned, you can just as well comment on the design of any BMW and replace the letters BMW in your quote by Mercedes-Benz.

German car design has reached deep bottom.

So true, Gianclaudio, so true.

 

[Special]

Of course, but you are giving your opinion as a fact, and the fact that has been amply demonstrated here and everywhere is that the solidity, build quality, materials and finishes of the i4 and BMW in general is ultimately better than that of Audi and Mercedes, especially the EQs have been quite criticized by everyone in that aspect and obviously complaining for the shake of........ since they must also be very good, but again if you compare them with your own "standard" the S Class, and it is when they are most evident.

No, we don't have, the fact that you've driven S-Classes doesn't make you know what quality is any more than I do, that's a big mistake on your part, it's as if Checo Perez said that all cars are slow because he drives an F1, both would be wrong, since the world is a generality, not your universe.

Exactly that's just what it is, but if you mention it disparagingly it sounds bad, like saying the EQE is an ugly bad adaptation of what an E-Class EV should be.
It is also noticeable that again you are measuring it against the S-Class and as I said, you are wrong from the base.

I repeat what I saw, there is a fact, a publication, compare them both and they understand that the EQE does not offer as much as it should and the i4 offers more than it should, just that.

You didnt get it. I dont compare an i4 or EQE to an S-Class, i’m just saying that because i drive S-Classes 30 years, i know very well when we are talking about top quality and when not. And yes, because of owning S-Classes 30 years i do now what good quality is, because the S-Class was all the time benchmark. I have an good eye for that. One who always drove i dont know, a Passat, cant know that and thats a fact. You must own such cars, you must drive them every day for more years to see the details and differences.

And to say that bimmers are better build then Mercedes, is just a bad joke.
I tell you just one example: my friend who works in the company Litostroj in Ljubljana, where they are making some parts for automatc gears (i think) for BMW’s, Mercedes an other companies. He said to me, that Bimmer has a tolerance for the workers of 0,3 mm, when Mercedes has a tolerance od 0,03 mm (!!). And everything is in that relation when it comes to BMW : Mercedes. You can also tell by the fact, that there are thousands of Mercedes with over 1 milion Km, but almost no Bimmer. Also the prices are higher at Mercedes, when used, although when new the Bimmer cost the same.
Look, i was salesman at Mercedes and sales director at Bimmer. I’ve seen it all, so nobody can tell me, that bimmer is better build.

And now i dont have the time for this ping-pong anymore. You should care & cry less if someone said some critics about your bimmer.

 

[dalab]

i’m just saying that because i drive S-Classes 30 years, i know very well when we are talking about top quality and when not.

No, that's not what you said

Sorry but then we both have different standards for build quality and materials. I drive almost my whole life only S-Classes,

This is what you said.
And to that I answered you.

And to say that bimmers are better build then Mercedes, is just a bad joke.

No, I did not say that

solidity, build quality, materials and finishes of the i4 and BMW in general is ultimately better than that of Audi and Mercedes

This is what I said, speaking of the interiors, which is what you mentioned.

where they are making some parts for automatc gears (i think) for BMW’s, Mercedes an other companies. He said to me, that Bimmer has a tolerance for the workers of 0,3 mm, when Mercedes has a tolerance od 0,03 mm

Do you mean ZF? from an external provider? I remind you that it is the same from many manufacturers, only the set-up is different, more than anything else from the software and its relationship with the engine, your friend lied to you

You can also tell by the fact, that there are thousands of Mercedes with over 1 milion Km, but almost no Bimmer.

Where did you get that from?, from the popular imagination?
Give me real data or a record of that, that is information dependent on variables out of control.
I know there are, there must be a handful, as well as Volvos and as well as Bimmers, it depends on who uses it and how it is used.
Nobody has questioned the durability and robustness of some Mercedes, but not all, I don't think that those of the 90's and those of now reach those figures, but I repeat, nobody questioned that, read my post

Look, i was salesman at Mercedes and sales director at Bimmer. I’ve seen it all, so nobody can tell me, that bimmer is better build.

Since the last time you gave us your resume I see that you have escalated since you never mentioned that you worked for bimmer before, have you just started or are you lying a little?
Post us a photo of you in the showroom, I would love to know more from the inside.

And now i dont have the time for this ping-pong anymore. You should care & cry less if someone said some critics about your bimmer.

It's a shame that I can't talk seriously with you, without you coming out with stupid things about someone crying, I just said to you that "it wasn't necessary to praise the EQE having to dirty the i4", just that, don't be silly, nobody cries.

But it still doesn't make sense to talk to someone who believes that because they had Mercedes S- Classes they know more about quality than someone they don't even know, you don't know what I had, what I have, or what I do.

 

[Special]

No, that's not what you said

This is what you said.
And to that I answered you.

No, I did not say that

This is what I said, speaking of the interiors, which is what you mentioned.

Do you mean ZF? from an external provider? I remind you that it is the same from many manufacturers, only the set-up is different, more than anything else from the software and its relationship with the engine, your friend lied to you

Where did you get that from?, from the popular imagination?
Give me real data or a record of that, that is information dependent on variables out of control.
I know there are, there must be a handful, as well as Volvos and as well as Bimmers, it depends on who uses it and how it is used.
Nobody has questioned the durability and robustness of some Mercedes, but not all, I don't think that those of the 90's and those of now reach those figures, but I repeat, nobody questioned that, read my post

Since the last time you gave us your resume I see that you have escalated since you never mentioned that you worked for bimmer before, have you just started or are you lying a little?
Post us a photo of you in the showroom, I would love to know more from the inside.

It's a shame that I can't talk seriously with you, without you coming out with stupid things about someone crying, I just said to you that "it wasn't necessary to praise the EQE having to dirty the i4", just that, don't be silly, nobody cries.

But it still doesn't make sense to talk to someone who believes that because they had Mercedes S- Classes they know more about quality than someone they don't even know, you don't know what I had, what I have, or what I do.

LOL.
OK. Whatever…

 

[dalab]

LOL.
OK. Whatever…

Of course, that was what I thought.

 

[Merc1]

Pot meet kettle. Absolutely hilarious.

M

 

[Special]

Of course, that was what I thought.

LOL, but not because of what you thought, but because i dont have the time to ping pong with you. You got everything wrong and messed up, what i said and what i didnt and that my friend was lying. Everything.
Get a life man, go out sometimes, drink a beer, f#ck some bitches. I watched your activity time here - you literally live on this forum man. Thats sad.

 

[Special]

 

[Jacke]

next to this car, the bmw i4 remains a cliché

Why do you always find a way to quote a bmw cant you just live with the EQE being so good without mentioning the i4 every$&@king single time

 

[dalab]

I watched your activity time here

Thats sad.

You right, that you are aware of my activity here is sad and quite creepy

 

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[Mr. Mercedes]

EQE53 Has arrived here. Looks far smaller than the EQS and disguises it's size well.

The interior door card finish is appalling for a car of this price point though. Absolutely atrocious.

 

[lukeswiss]

EQE53 Has arrived here. Looks far smaller than the EQS and disguises it's size well.

The interior door card finish is appalling for a car of this price point though. Absolutely atrocious.

The interior quality of the EQ models sits about one class below their model name.

EQS is at best CLS quality, EQE, is more like a C.

At least that’s the perception I got.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

The interior quality of the EQ models sits about one class below their model name.

EQS is at best CLS quality, EQE, is more like a C.

At least that’s the perception I got.

Completely agree. But even just one generation ago a door finish of this standard would not have been acceptable on a C.

An EQE53 costs AUD$270k on the road for an A class level of door finish.

 

[lukeswiss]

Completely agree. But even just one generation ago a door finish of this standard would not have been acceptable on a C.

An EQE53 costs AUD$270k on the road for an A class level of door finish.

Absolutely ridiculous prices for a car of this finish.

I just did a check, we pay CHF 128k which is about AUD195k - is the rest of that taxes ?

Do you not getting any rebates for driving electric and being morally superior to the rest of the population in Aus ? :-D