8 Series [Renders] 2020 BMW 8 series

[zonk1988]

Finally a nice looking BMW coupe

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Finally a nice looking BMW coupe

What's wrong with the 4er?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

The 4 series coupe is simply gorgeous. Handsome even if not laden with countless optional accessories. That's an act that the Audi A5 or the M-B C and E-Class coupes are not able to pull off, IMHO.

 

[martinbo]

The 4 series is a sensation in terms of proportion and when it's dressed up in M-Sport and M-Performance kit quite lovely to look at.
But, when turned out in its full M4 regalia it is - for me - quite simply the best looking front-engined coupe on the market barring the ultra-exotics like the 812 and Aston Zagato.
An M4 CS in Lime Rock Grey. [swoon ] The M4 strikes the perfect balance between proportion, elegance and aggression and I feel that it'll be one helluva difficult act to follow up.

I mean - just look at this thing:

It's not even the full on ///M car and it looks ridiculously good considering its rather mainstream underpinnings. Short front overhang FTW - a masterpiece of proportion, detail and silhouette.
A particularly pleasing aspect for me is the blending of the bone line with the rear haunch. It's a very effective and engaging detail I feel.

In fact, looking at these spy pics of the new 8er, I don't get the immediate impression that I'm going to be as impressed with the outcome as I am with the F32.

 

[wL0316]

Couldn't have said it better, especially the proportion! 4-series Concept

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Based solely on its' exterior design, it is arguable that no BMW product post 2011 has hit that bullseye so spot-on as did (and does) the F32 (incl. F82 M4) 4 series coupe. Introduced over 4 years ago here in the EU, they continue to look "fresh".

Lofty expectations for the new 8 series cars-and I suspect that we will not be disappointed. BMW does 2 door coupes well in my book.

 

[klier]

No company does a sedan based coupe like BMW does. MB and Audi can dream about those Bimmer coupes.

 

[manuelf]

...
An M4 CS in Lime Rock Grey. [swoon ] The M4 strikes the perfect balance between proportion, elegance and aggression and I feel that it'll be one helluva difficult act to follow up...

I do get your Point, Martin

 

[klier]

God, stop with the porn please I can't take it

Only one car I like even more in the class and that's this:

The competition can just go home. Game Over.

 

[martinbo]

God, stop with the porn please I can't take it

Only one car I like even more in the class and that's this:

The competition can just go home. Game Over.

It's very nice but it's no 4er-based M4 coupé; that thing is the shit-ice-cold-ass-titties-erm-izzle(?)

 

[klier]

It's very nice but it's no 4er-based M4 coupé; that thing is the shit-ice-cold-ass-titties-erm-izzle(?)

Fatter and more gressive with it's wide hips, I like that more than the coupe shape of the 4er. But yeah, it's like choosing between your childeren....

 

[domleo999]

They really hit the jackpot with this 4 series! Everything about it reaps perfection...hence the reason for my recent purchase

Merry Xmas folks!

 

[tristatez28lt1]

BMW has always made beautiful coupes. E46, E92, etc. always pretty.

 

[martinbo]

BMW has always made beautiful coupes. E46, E92, etc. always pretty.

And, to take this assertion one step further, one can't disregard the sublime E24, F12 and even E63 despite its more controversial arse-end.
The point is, BMW has a long lineage of good-looking two door coupés and - just like that* - this leads us neatly back to how the 8 Series has its work cut out for it.

*Now who says we don't manage off-topic discussion well here on GCF?

 

[John Galt]

This is the one you need.

Wow, this looks really nice. Is this the same class as the current 6? Or it is an S-coupe rival?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Is this the same class as the current 6?

Much indicates that it will be positioned in a segment higher than that of the F12/F13 6 series, despite appearing to have a similar footprint.

Or it is an S-coupe rival?

Pricewise, quite probable.

 

[Carmaker1]

Random, but it irks me so much that so-called "journalists" have this habit of assuming these concept cars, directly influence production models. BMW does not have time nor resources waste in such a short period of time, between when the concept was shown earlier this and when it will actually go into production. The narrative they have given on this, is rather or willfully ignorant, bordering on misleading when put out as "news".

Anyone with common sense, knows the concept was just created as a preview. It is not like the Z1 and Vision Efficient Dynamics. Those took TIME, truly inspiring from them production models. Things like the 8-Series Concept or the "M4 Concept" (F82), are not representative of strict design studies, that are transformed into production cars, yet it seems like outside of GCF, there is little common sense regarding that.

1986 Z1 Concept/Prototype (Designed 1985)

Production Z1 Clay Modell-1986

Vision Efficient Dynamics Concept - 2009

BMW i8 - 2012 to present

This is literally the ONLY forum in the world, that can see past such fallacies, no matter which brand. (GCF is composed of a very, very intelligent bunch, that I have also learned a lot from here too)

Another point is, I have had a sneaky feeling like this car is possibly a renamed 6er coupe (originally designed as F12 replacement), which explains the confusion we had a while back. For product positioning purposes, did it make sense to make their new CLAR architecture coupe, an 8-Series for higher profit margin and less of a price ceiling? Why did we hear 2020 and then magically, 2018 for a new 8-Series? BMW personnel here, were equally clueless as this either being 6er or 8er.

Something is fishy. Why no F12 direct replacement, then coincidentally this shows up.

 

[EnI]

Sure the upcoming 8er is "just" a beefed up 6er.

But mind 6er is actually a downgrade of planned 8er revival. Remember the Z9 Concept? It was a large, 7er-based GT coupe. A statement. A preview of a planned 8er revival. But in the process BMW board decided to give it a go with a shrunken, 5-based version of GT, named 6er (E63/4) instead. And so we got a 6er revival instead of true 8er revival.

Then there was Concept CS as another attempt at reviving the 8er on a 7er platform, and the project was also scrapped.

And now - based on a modular CLAR platform - we are finally getting the 8er back. More or less a replacement for the current 6er - which should initially have been an 8er anyway.

And now they finally have some strategy behind the hi-end luxury series, so the 8er revival finally even makes sense. And the time is right. They've even introduced a special "wrapping" for those models: in a form of "Bayerische Motoren Werke" logo.

Complicated? Sure. Happy holidays.

 

[Carmaker1]

Sure the upcoming 8er is "just" a beefed up 6er.

But mind 6er is actually a downgrade of planned 8er revival. Remember the Z9 Concept? It was a large, 7er-based GT coupe. A statement. A preview of a planned 8er revival. But in the process BMW board decided to give it a go with a shrunken, 5-based version of GT, named 6er (E63/4) instead. And so we got a 6er revival instead of true 8er revival.

Then there was Concept CS as another attempt at reviving the 8er on a 7er platform, and the project was also scrapped.

And now - based on a modular CLAR platform - we are finally getting the 8er back. More or less a replacement for the current 6er - which should initially have been an 8er anyway.

And now they finally have some strategy behind the hi-end luxury series, so the 8er revival finally even makes sense. And the time is right. They've even introduced a special "wrapping" for those models: in a form of "Bayerische Motoren Werke" logo.

Complicated? Sure. Happy holidays.

I thought so regarding the Z9, as it was supposed to be an E65 teaser (during development in early 1999 following E65 design freeze), but began to make sense as a production model as they were finishing it up for IAA '99? I remember Bangle explaining this regarding the Z9 many years ago (off the record from Z9 press speeches) and possibly you on here a few years ago, but I never figured it really was supposed to be even an 8er.

I admit, that I always found it rather ironic how the Z9 presentation, coincided with end of E31 production in 1999. The E63 design was quickly approved after that in the summer of 2000 (frozen Feb 2001), so it seems like they decided in favour of E60-platform with rapidity.

The CS Concept seemed like it lived on in the F06 Gran Coupe, which the model code has always seemed suspect to me (F12/13 vs F06)? I have wondered if F06 might've originally been for an 8-Series Gran Coupe, being re-purposed as the 6er Gran Coupe. I believe it was in 2009, when a production proposal of the 6er Gran Coupe was approved internally? I feel like I read somewhere that the CS-based 8-Series was indefinitely halted in 2008 because of the recession, but from 2006-07/08 was "a thought"?

Good to hear that the modular CLAR has allowed so much flexibility for product positioning. I imagine wants to cut waste, with certain markets such as coupes. BMW is primarily known for smaller, sporting coupes and not having a 2-door of every single size. If a 6er can comeback, it would be great, but maybe a sportier focus than the 8er is needed down the road or like BMW tradition the past 3 decades, no 6er and 8er 2-door can exist at the same time?

And yes, happy holidays to you and everyone (currently visiting family)!

 

[Carmaker1]

Random, but it irks me so much that so-called "journalists" have this habit of assuming these concept cars, directly influence production models. BMW does not have time nor resources waste in such a short period of time, between when the concept was shown earlier this and when it will actually go into production. The narrative they have given on this, is rather or willfully ignorant, bordering on misleading when put out as "news".

Anyone with common sense, knows the concept was just created as a preview. It is not like the Z1 and Vision Efficient Dynamics. Those took TIME, truly inspiring from them production models. Things like the 8-Series Concept or the "M4 Concept" (F82), are not representative of strict design studies, that are transformed into production cars, yet it seems like outside of GCF, there is little common sense regarding that.

1986 Z1 Concept/Prototype (Designed 1985)

Production Z1 Clay Modell-1986

Vision Efficient Dynamics Concept - 2009

BMW i8 - 2012 to present

This is literally the ONLY forum in the world, that can see past such fallacies, no matter which brand. (GCF is composed of a very, very intelligent bunch, that I have also learned a lot from here too)

Another point is, I have had a sneaky feeling like this car is possibly a renamed 6er coupe (originally designed as F12 repl...

I am not sure why, but I definitely edited my post earlier on and corrected "2012 to present" to "2014 to present" for the i8, plus many other typos. Not sure what happened with that.