M8 [Official] The New BMW M8 Coupé & Convertible (F91 & F92)

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Somebody obviously opened the hood, then the photos were taken after this....

Yes, but there is a responsible personal that should check after each opening of the hood. This is an exhibition and the car should always look perfect.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Its strange the M8 has narrower 285 tyres than the previous M6, which had 295 rears on 20inch rims and looked utterly gorgeous. This 6 GC is too my eyes one of the finest looking BMWs in the current era.

The F06 M6 GCs' exterior design is such an immensely tough act to follow.

 

[manuelf]

Its strange the M8 has narrower 285 tyres than the previous M6, which had 295 rears on 20inch rims and looked utterly gorgeous.

The reason is obviously the switch to AWD, where traction on the rear axle is less important. In contrast the width of tires at the front has grown afaik? 275 vs 265 - M8 vs M6?
Moreover the silly WLTP data gets more important every day... so keeping roll resistance low seems to be a factor for BMW to keep tire width as low as possible ...

 

[Frankie G]

Its strange the M8 has narrower 285 tyres than the previous M6, which had 295 rears on 20inch rims and looked utterly gorgeous. This 6 GC is too my eyes one of the finest looking BMWs in the current era.

I too feel the M8 GC could do with some extra width at the rear. The same can be said of the F90 as the F10 M5 had 295's at the rear whereas the F90 shares the M8 coupe, convertible and GC footprints.

The reason is obviously the switch to AWD, where traction on the rear axle is less important.

Not necessarily but also dependant on the system itself. Audi's RS6/7 have been using 285's allround for 2 generations including current but AMG's E63 S now has the widest rears at 295's even though 4matic was around in the last generation.

Moreover the silly WLTP data gets more important every day... so keeping roll resistance low seems to be a factor for BMW to keep tire width as low as possible ...

I can't comment much regarding WLTP regulations and roll-resistance but both Porsche (Panamera/Taycan) and moreover a volume mover like the AMG-GT4 door 63 S have gone with similar OEM tires and at least 305's at the rear.

I have seen some Stage 2 tuned F90's with 295's and even 305's at the rear and they look positively aggressive as one would expect.

 

[mihc]

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[hovabongZA]

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He spent a lot of time in the interior , this car has a lot of tech.

 

[Matski]

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[manuelf]

The current german sport auto has e test of the M8 Competition in fire red!
Interesstingly a very positive verdict by Stefan Helmreich!
"A Gran Tourismo ... but still a sportscar!"

It is obviously a big/wide car, but still very sporty/capable and has immense stiffness and an extraordinary drivetrain (engine, ZF8 and a very sophisticated xDrive)
Although the test track (Hockenheim GP) was slightly wet, the M8 Comp. is faster than an Audi R8 Performance with SEMISLICKS (Helmreich underlines this with three exclamation marks) and also beats a 992 Carrera S by 4 tenths! Both (911 and R8) had much better track conditions!
So: Against all the negative talk about its GTish nature, the M8 is tremendously fast (killing mid engine supercars with slicks).
I am curious, what the supertest will bring on the table regarding Nordschleife time ...

 

[manuelf]

Pic from test ...

 

[drifter1]

Pic from test ...

Thanks for this. It's no faster than the M5 Competition, in a straight line, it seems. Much faster at Hockenheim GP though.

 

[manuelf]

Thanks for this. It's no faster than the M5 Competition it seems.

Hm. Conditions were:
air temp. 4 degree celsius
track temp. 3 degree celsius
and south bend was still wet!

So - in comparable conditions to the M5 test, the M8 would be even better!

 

[hovabongZA]

The M8 competition is noticeably faster than the M5 competition even in wet conditions.

 

[drifter1]

The M8 competition is noticeably faster than the M5 competition even in wet conditions.

Depends on which source you choose.

 

[hovabongZA]

Depends on which source you choose.

Yes, but I think it more relevant use numbers from the same publication because of the testing methodology, same drivers and same tracks etc.

 

[manuelf]

Depends on which source you choose.

Hm. I would prefer comparison between tests from same magazine ... they tend to habe stable conditions! I think e.g. sport auto is testing braking and acceleration WITH passenger. What about autobild sportscars?
Moreover: I am NOT talking about straight line performance here! There M5 and M8 should be almost equal. On a race track the differences the M8 has compared with M5 (wider track, lower cog and further stiffened structure) pay off a lot more!

 

[drifter1]

Hm. I would prefer comparison between tests from same magazine ... they tend to habe stable conditions! I think e.g. sport auto is testing braking and acceleration WITH passenger. What about autobild sportscars?
Moreover: I am NOT talking about straight line performance here! There M5 and M8 should be almost equal. On a race track the differences the M...

I think my original quote stated exactly the same thing. Faster on track and about the same in a straight line.

 

[drifter1]

Yes, but I think it more relevant use numbers from the same publication because of the testing methodology, same drivers and same tracks etc.

Fair enough, but that's probably the slowest 0-200 time I've seen. BMW claims a 10.8 second time for the 0-200 dash on the Competition Pack, and their claims are usually quite conservative.

 

[hovabongZA]

Fair enough, but that's probably the slowest 0-200 time I've seen. BMW claims a 10.8 second time for the 0-200 dash on the Competition Pack, and their claims are usually quite conservative.

This M8 did 10.5s to 200kph, so it actually beat the 10.8s claim form BMW.

 

[drifter1]

This M8 did 10.5s to 200kph, so it actually beat the 10.8s claim form BMW.

I was referring to the 11.0 seconds that you posted for the M5.

 

[manuelf]

I think my original quote stated exactly the same thing. Faster on track and about the same in a straight line.

Ups. Yes. You are right! I think after we all knew, that the drive train of M5/M8 is basically the same and even weights are comparable ... it was expected, that straight line performance is similar.
If and how much advantage M8 will have over the M5 in track performance was a big question mark.
Now we know, that the M8 really raises the bar higher in this discipline!