5 Series (G60) [Official] The New BMW 5 Series (G60)

[martinbo]

In ICE G60's coming to America the donut spare is under the trunk floor. I saw this myself at a dealership. Can't imagine why that wouldn't be the case elsewhere.

It’s exactly the same here in SA. ICE G60s have a space saver spare housed under the floor of the trunk. EV G60s, on the other hand appear to have space restrictions imposed by the electric drivetrain which precludes placement of the spare under the trunk floor.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I saw one parked early this morning, whilst driving by. A dark colour, standard exterior specification (non M-line). Must say, the front looked rather nice but it really is a big car (for a 5er). It's height makes it stand out.

 

[klier]

It's height makes it stand out.

Yeah that would be the battery compartment. There is probably less headroom than in an E class.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Yeah that would be the battery compartment. There is probably less headroom than in an E class.

I'll check that tonight when I'm home. I think those are mentioned in one of the AMS tests.

 

[klier]

I'll check that tonight when I'm home. I think those are mentioned in one of the AMS tests.

1052 mm for the W214 vs 1033 mm for the G60 5er (and 1034 mm for the G30)

 

[Sunny]

1052 mm for the W214 vs 1033 mm for the G60 5er (and 1034 mm for the G30)

BMW US website specs says i5 headroom as 39.1" (993 mm). https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/all-electric/i5/sedan/electric.html.

Interesting exterior height vs front headroom comparison -

i5 - 59.6" vs 39.1"
Lucid Air - 55.5" vs 39.5"
Model S - 56.3" vs 39.7"
EQE - 59.5" vs 40.1"

i5 is the tallest car, but has the least headroom.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

That's what happens when you need to accommodate two entirely different powertrains

 

[GTA45E]

Basically, you're rolling around in a car with an overly large material footprint with minimal interior space advantages.
It's like wearing size 10 shoes with double layers and larger soles than the shoes need to be.

The designers probably had no choice but to "downscale" the appearance of it simply because of the mass it is hauling around.

 

[Frankie G]

An honest review from Joe. I think his overall analysis of the M60 concurs with what most on here and elsewhere, have discussed regarding quality, dynamics, value and among other things the overall experience.

I'm not overly convinced by the new 5 series and wouldn't call it a resounding success but I'll reserve final judgement with time and experience.

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[motley crue]

Hey guys do you know will the 540i or 540d will be available in Europe since Mercedes provide such 6 cylinder powertrains for their E class for EU markets?

 

[Big Sam]

An honest review from Joe. I think his overall analysis of the M60 concurs with what most on here and elsewhere, have discussed regarding quality, dynamics, value and among other things the overall experience.

I'm not overly convinced by the new 5 series and wouldn't call it a resounding success but I'll reserve final judgement with time and experience.

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To summarise, he's shocked that the i5 M60 xDrive he's testing is £118,000 list, which is absolutely mental.

To compare, the Taycan GTS starts at £110,000 in the UK, and comes quite well-specced. You certainly don't need to go above £115,000, which means you could walk away with a Porsche for less money than the i5 M60. Both cars have similar performance.

Who on earth would sink £118,000 into an i5?

 

[SKY]

To summarise, he's shocked that the i5 M60 xDrive he's testing is £118,000 list, which is absolutely mental.

To compare, the Taycan GTS starts at £110,000 in the UK, and comes quite well-specced. You certainly don't need to go above £115,000, which means you could walk away with a Porsche for less money than the i5 M60. Both cars have similar performance.

Who on earth would sink £118,000 into an i5?

Agree. While both car have a similar size and performance, Porsche is just one (or more) step above BMW in terms of brand perception.

 

[Big Sam]

Agree. While both car have a similar size and performance, Porsche is just one (or more) step above BMW in terms of brand perception.

And to be fair, that i5 M60 must be fully loaded, so it's not comparing like-for-like exactly, so maybe I should have said "who would buy *that particular* i5 over a Taycan GTS?" Not many.

However, the base price of the i5 M60 is just shy of £100,000, which is still bonkers.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

To summarise, he's shocked that the i5 M60 xDrive he's testing is £118,000 list, which is absolutely mental.

To compare, the Taycan GTS starts at £110,000 in the UK, and comes quite well-specced. You certainly don't need to go above £115,000, which means you could walk away with a Porsche for less money than the i5 M60. Both cars have similar performance.

Who on earth would sink £118,000 into an i5?

M5 pricing.

No doubt the E53 will be just as expensive when it appears.

 

[klier]

To summarise, he's shocked that the i5 M60 xDrive he's testing is £118,000 list, which is absolutely mental.

To compare, the Taycan GTS starts at £110,000 in the UK, and comes quite well-specced. You certainly don't need to go above £115,000, which means you could walk away with a Porsche for less money than the i5 M60. Both cars have similar performance.

Who on earth would sink £118,000 into an i5?

It's the top spec V8 replacement. The M550i or previous V8 5er were definitely on Panamera level price wise, so I don't see the particular crazy part.
All I know that is vastly more cheap than a V8 or other gasoline Bimmer with the same specs would be. Like at least 50k cheaper.

But these prices are still batshit insane. For the Taycan too.
M5 is going to be twice the price of an i5 M60 over here.

 

[Mars1965]

It's the top spec V8 replacement. The M550i or previous V8 5er were definitely on Panamera level price wise, so I don't see the particular crazy part.
All I know that is vastly more cheap than a V8 or other gasoline Bimmer with the same specs would be. Like at least 50k cheaper.

But these prices are still batshit insane. For the Taycan too.
M5 is going to be twice the price of an i5 M60 over here.

Price in NL starts at € 108,427 for the BMW i5 M60 and € 146,663 for the Porsche Taycan GTS. (Source EV database).

https://ev-database.org/nl/auto/1907/BMW-i5-M60-xDrive-Sedan

https://ev-database.org/nl/auto/1560/Porsche-Taycan-GTS

 

[klier]

Price in NL starts at € 108,427 for the BMW i5 M60 and € 146,663 for the Porsche Taycan GTS. (Source EV database).

https://ev-database.org/nl/auto/1907/BMW-i5-M60-xDrive-Sedan

https://ev-database.org/nl/auto/1560/Porsche-Taycan-GTS

Pretty big gap. M5 is going over 200k Euro in NL likely. An XM is from around 180k with the same drivetrain.

 

[Big Sam]

Picked up a new 5 Series today. First time driving one, and I have it until next Wednesday. Will do around 1,500km over the next three days, starting with a drive first thing in the morning from the southern Netherlands to Hamburg, and then maybe up to Denmark for the day on Sunday.

BMW 520d M Sport (G60)
Mineral White
Quite nicely specced, including ventilated seats, not that I'll be needing them in this weather.

 

[Rolf]

982 - 945 mm. Counts for both imo.

They could have used that huge front overhang to good effect by storing the spare wheel under the hood instead of wasted space in the boot!!!

Viva Citroen!!

Would help with crash safety as well lol.

 

[klier]

Lot's of snow int he southern part huh Matthew? Here above the rivers it's nowhere to be seen......
Nice spec indeed. You're basically the first with some first hand info here, and I can't wait to read it.

And is your trip to Denmark something you have to go to, or just a nice road trip? I never go north, I don't know why. But I guess Denmark is a nice destination if you're already up there in Hamburg. Have a good journey!