Merc1
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I thought I read where they were working on a new I6 replace the literally chopped from a V8, V6 that they have now. Maybe not. I wish they were and Volvo too.
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Velar [Official] Range Rover Velar
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The Land Rover Range Rover Velar, generally known as the Range Rover Velar, is a crossover SUV produced by Jaguar Land Rover under their Land Rover marque. The fourth model in the Range Rover line, the Velar was unveiled on 1 March 2017 in London, England. The name Velar had previously been used for a series of pre-production first-generation Range Rovers in 1969.
I thought I read where they were working on a new I6 replace the literally chopped from a V8, V6 that they have now. Maybe not. I wish they were and Volvo too.
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Serpens
Torque Titan
That was my understanding as well- insiders have been discussing that for years. Where they were getting their next V8 was the question, which is why that BMW rumor keeps appearing.
TopspeedPT
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SCOTT27
Lap Time Luminary
Just needs more air intakes.
KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
What like an X5M?
sako97
Autotechnik Ace
So U.S dealerships have been getting truck loads of new Velars this week, so I decided to check them out during service. I didn't have time for a test drive, however.
It looks good (weird from some angles). The wow factor has worn off a bit seeing them again in various trim levels 5-6 months later. Will it age well?
Parked next to the F Pace and it’s obvious they’re platform twins. They even share some optional wheels. The Velar looks much better than the F-Pace.
Interior is looks nice, but there's excessive hard plastic in some areas like the upper dash, doors, and center console. Rear seating room is very poor for people over 6ft.
The infotainment... I'm a bit discontented that this is the future of Land Rover tech. There's nothing wrong with the interface, in fact it's good, but you must look down to select nearly all features or control the HVAC.
What I like about my RR is that it I can set whatever need to set before driving, and if I need to make a change on the road, I can do so using the hard buttons... without looking down.
Add the Velar to the list of new cars that are a smorgasbord of fingerprints waiting to happen. Microfiber cloths should be included.
The Velar's interior in the highest spec with full (not entirely) leather. Very nice for the segment.
It looks good (weird from some angles). The wow factor has worn off a bit seeing them again in various trim levels 5-6 months later. Will it age well?
Parked next to the F Pace and it’s obvious they’re platform twins. They even share some optional wheels. The Velar looks much better than the F-Pace.
Interior is looks nice, but there's excessive hard plastic in some areas like the upper dash, doors, and center console. Rear seating room is very poor for people over 6ft.
The infotainment... I'm a bit discontented that this is the future of Land Rover tech. There's nothing wrong with the interface, in fact it's good, but you must look down to select nearly all features or control the HVAC.
What I like about my RR is that it I can set whatever need to set before driving, and if I need to make a change on the road, I can do so using the hard buttons... without looking down.
Add the Velar to the list of new cars that are a smorgasbord of fingerprints waiting to happen. Microfiber cloths should be included.
The Velar's interior in the highest spec with full (not entirely) leather. Very nice for the segment.
Mr. Mercedes
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Range Rover is certainly taking a page out of Porsche's book here and marketing themselves as a boutique luxury product. EVERYTHING and anything is optional.
That's all well and good, but when you're missing key technologies like apple car play on a 100K+ vehicle and your satellite navigation doesn't even have traffic updates, both of which are available on low end Kia's and Hyundais, its a bit of a problem in my book.
That said the car is visually stunning in person. I drove the D300 (3 litre diesel) on air suspension and it was a lovely thing to be in. Didn't sound like a diesel to me and was quite responsive, but the handling certainly wasn't the last word in SUV sportiness. Despite the marketing hype an the salesman spiel, a more relaxed approach is probably better with this vehicle. But it's certainly sporty enough for 90% of it's target market.
The electronic interface looked slick as hell, but you do end up with your eyes off the road long and often when changing relatively minor things. Perhaps familiarity will help. Unfortunately the steering mounted touch surfaces/button things were laggy and cumbersome in their operation really impacting on the impressiveness of the whole interface. On more than one occasion they simply refused to work. Perhaps a software update is necessary.
I'm not a tall guy and my wife isn't tall either, so rear seat room was ample when the front seats were set to my preferred position. The extra boot length over GLC, Q5 etc. is notable but the height is compromised by the shape, so I think overall volume is probably not as impressive as you would think. Externally the car is bigger than it's direct German rivals but it does disguise it's length and bulk very well appearing smaller than it actually is. It looks much smaller than the Sport, but in reality the length isn't far off.
I optioned a P380 to how I would take it and it came in at a staggering $170K. That's insane money and you could get a brand new 7-series that the dealership has had trouble moving for that price. I optioned a P300 and it priced in at $140K. Unfortunately neither petrol variants were available for a test drive. I'll likely test the P300 in November and if the 4 cylinder doesn't float my boat I'll walk away.
The 'R Dynamic' pack is featured on pretty much all of the marketing material, but it's a pricey $8000 upgrade for some small, albeit ones that have a dramatic impact, external tweeks.
Can one get away without this option, or do you guys think it's a must? I'm of two minds presently...Most marketing material features it.
It's a very expensive upgrade for a more aggressive bumper with copper highlights and some bumper scoops.
Here is one without the R Dynamic package but with the AUD$3.5K silicon silver 'premium' paint and $1k alloy wheel upgrade.
That's all well and good, but when you're missing key technologies like apple car play on a 100K+ vehicle and your satellite navigation doesn't even have traffic updates, both of which are available on low end Kia's and Hyundais, its a bit of a problem in my book.
That said the car is visually stunning in person. I drove the D300 (3 litre diesel) on air suspension and it was a lovely thing to be in. Didn't sound like a diesel to me and was quite responsive, but the handling certainly wasn't the last word in SUV sportiness. Despite the marketing hype an the salesman spiel, a more relaxed approach is probably better with this vehicle. But it's certainly sporty enough for 90% of it's target market.
The electronic interface looked slick as hell, but you do end up with your eyes off the road long and often when changing relatively minor things. Perhaps familiarity will help. Unfortunately the steering mounted touch surfaces/button things were laggy and cumbersome in their operation really impacting on the impressiveness of the whole interface. On more than one occasion they simply refused to work. Perhaps a software update is necessary.
I'm not a tall guy and my wife isn't tall either, so rear seat room was ample when the front seats were set to my preferred position. The extra boot length over GLC, Q5 etc. is notable but the height is compromised by the shape, so I think overall volume is probably not as impressive as you would think. Externally the car is bigger than it's direct German rivals but it does disguise it's length and bulk very well appearing smaller than it actually is. It looks much smaller than the Sport, but in reality the length isn't far off.
I optioned a P380 to how I would take it and it came in at a staggering $170K. That's insane money and you could get a brand new 7-series that the dealership has had trouble moving for that price. I optioned a P300 and it priced in at $140K. Unfortunately neither petrol variants were available for a test drive. I'll likely test the P300 in November and if the 4 cylinder doesn't float my boat I'll walk away.
The 'R Dynamic' pack is featured on pretty much all of the marketing material, but it's a pricey $8000 upgrade for some small, albeit ones that have a dramatic impact, external tweeks.
Can one get away without this option, or do you guys think it's a must? I'm of two minds presently...Most marketing material features it.
It's a very expensive upgrade for a more aggressive bumper with copper highlights and some bumper scoops.
Here is one without the R Dynamic package but with the AUD$3.5K silicon silver 'premium' paint and $1k alloy wheel upgrade.
I would walk away from the Velar, the price is insane, not to mention the questionable quality, especially for 1st year production cars. Even the BMW X5, Porsche Cayenne is slightly cheaper than what RR is asking for the Velar.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
The difference is that Porsche’s cars have a lot more substance. Yesterday I drove a Range Rover for th firs time. It’s a friend’s Range Rover with just 500 miles on the clocks which I will occasionally use over the next two weeks. It’s silver with black blade and alloys. It looks the business and my expectations were high given that in the UK everyone and their grand mother want a Range Rover.
Unfortunately I was a bit underwhelmed by how it drives as an “ultimate luxury car. The visibility is second to none and the exterior design imposing but elegant, but that’s about it. The G12 7-Series I borrowed last year had must more comfortable seats, head rest cushions, air suspension that isolates you from the road and was easier to drive. My girlfriend who desire a RR didn’t even make any positive comments about a car while in the 7 Series she kept saying “OMG this car is so comfortable”.
I was surprisingly not left understanding what the hype around the Range Rover is all about. The seats were not cosseting and it feels it’s weight and size at both high and low speeds. As a modern luxury car the 7 Series is superior in many areas except off-road. I won’t bother test driving the Velar as I don’t think I will like it.
Merc1
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Hard reading that, as I've wanted a Range Rover too. The Velar was a let down, mainly because of what you say, it doesn't have the substantial feel like a high-end BMW or Mercedes. It just doesn't. There is something a German cars (middle to high end) that just feel expensive and that all of one piece feel, the others haven't duplicated, especially when on the move. The Velar felt ragged and it's perception enhanced by that rough/gruffy V6. Now the Jaguar XJ Supercharged I drove back when I was looking for my BMW had the proper feel. The XF a the time didn't, felt cheap like it would fall apart in a year or two. I will be in tears if a 100K Range Rover Supercharged feels like this.
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sako97
Autotechnik Ace
My daily driver is a RR SV Autobiography and the build quality is incredible, especially with all the knurled and metal finishes. Granted it's the top version, the build quality of the Range Sport is also good... but the rest of the LR lineup is suspect. I had no interest in driving the Velar either.
@Centurion; I'm curious as to which trim RR you drove. The newer Autobiography's come with much thicker, redesigned seats, and it's among the most comfortable seats I've sat in. Also comes with winged comfort headrests and more seat adjustments. Air suspension is also modified versus the HSE/Vogue/Supercharged.
@Centurion; I'm curious as to which trim RR you drove. The newer Autobiography's come with much thicker, redesigned seats, and it's among the most comfortable seats I've sat in. Also comes with winged comfort headrests and more seat adjustments. Air suspension is also modified versus the HSE/Vogue/Supercharged.
Centurion
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@Centurion; I'm curious as to which trim RR you drove. The newer Autobiography's come with much thicker, redesigned seats, and it's among the most comfortable seats I've sat in. Also comes with winged comfort headrests and more seat adjustments. Air suspension is also modified versus the HSE/Vogue/Supercharged.
That makes sense. I didn’t know the autobiography has thicker seats. How does the suspension differ? Is there is a way to adjust the suspension or steering? I have only figured out how to adjust the ride height. I am currently on holiday in Florida and will be taking it on a few scenic trips tomorrow.
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