208 [Official] Peugeot 208 II

Giannis · Feb 23, 2019

M.N.D said:
Indeed I was expecting a new design for the Renault Clio but it turned out to be more of a heavy facelift and the current design still has that MPV-ish theme with the continuous slope from the bonnet to the windshield (at least that's how I see it!)

You are quite correct about the Clio continuing the MPV like design path, but I think that the real game changer is its interior. The 4th generation had an awful interior and it was its main negative point. I hope the new one will be a much more complete product.

klier · Feb 23, 2019

advantage20 said:
It looks like a toy compared to the new Clio which has a much more balanced and mature design for a supermini. Rear door looks ridiculously small, door handles look too large and too low set.

This new 208 has near perfect proportions for a small hatch. Better than any Renault, and probably the best looking since the original 205.

advantage20 said:
The current generation Clio is still number 1 in the segment in Europe even though it's about to be phased out.

This segment is dominated by VAG in Europe, wth the Polo on the no 1 spot. The current ancient Clio only is no 1 in airing the same godaweful commercial on tv for like 7 years straight.

M.N.D · Feb 23, 2019

hoffmeister_fan said:
one thing though....I really like the interior design but I would also be concerned with how it'll age.

I don't have a solid opinion on the design aging topic, but I think we agree that it's a subjective matter. Usually, French cars often have that unusual (maybe a bit flamboyant?) look, whether inside or outside, as opposed to the German way.

I can think of German design as a suit, which is there isn't much you can add to make it exciting, but it is elegant and will remain so even after some time. French cars can be the casual clothing line that has a better flexibility to add new touches here and there that may go out of fashion after some time, but you then you see different opinions on whether that design was good or not. Some people will still like it, while some will not.

Funny enough, although the Peugeot's new interior theme is as modern as it gets, I see some retro touches in it such as the two layer on the passenger's side of the dashboard which I remember seeing in old cars from the 70's and the 80's. I can't say exactly from where I drew my impression, and I'm not on my PC right now so I can't provide images to prove my point so excuse this one

Giannis said:
You are quite correct about the Clio continuing the MPV like design path, but I think that the real game changer is its interior. The 4th generation had an awful interior and it was its main negative point. I hope the new one will be a much more complete product.

I'm a fan of the original Renault Clio and its predecessor, the legendary Renault 5 which my uncle used to have in addition to Renault 12 (my Grandfather) when I was a kid so I still like Renault!

Back to the Clio. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed the MPV profile. I didn't like how the French companies implemented it in their cars (that applies for the Peugeot 207 as well). The Megane is good looking but the Clio isn't so much (personal opinion)

However, the new interior is really nice with the Volvo inspired touchscreen.

Forza · Feb 23, 2019

no the Clio is number one in Europe

in 2018

1 - CLIO 328 000
2 - POLO 295 000
3 - FIESTA 270 000
4 - 208 230 000
5 - CORSA 216 000

klier · Feb 23, 2019

hoffmeister_fan said:
one thing though....I really like the interior design but I would also be concerned with how it'll age.

How it'll age within it's lifetime or how it'll look in 20 years? Because if you mean the latter, I don't think anyone really cares how it'll look in the future.

For the next 7 years, I think it's fine. They can swap for a new theme next gen if people become bored with it.

klier · Feb 23, 2019

Forza said:
no the Clio is number one in Europe : European sales 2018 Subcompact car segment - carsalesbase.com

Unfortunately the link doesn't work, but I believe you. Maybe I should have stated it differently; surely the platform underpinning the Polo/A1/etc is the most sold one in the segment?

Forza · Feb 23, 2019

klier · Feb 23, 2019

It's stunning. Wow.

SCOTT27 · Feb 23, 2019

advantage20 said:
More like a quartett now that DS Automobiles has completely branched off and is diametrically opposed to Citroën design-wise. Even though they currently offer no more direct competitor in the B supermini segment, since the DS3 has been scrapped and replaced by the new DS3 Crossback B-SUV

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The DS3 Crossback has more panache than the DS7 Crossback but when the Cactus was in for its rear window that popped out and did not pop back in again.

I had a C5 Aircross for a few hours and came away suitably impressed.

Rolf · Feb 23, 2019

Forza said:

The rear end from this view is very muscular for a small hatch, you can notice the bulge between the base of the C-pillar and the wheel arches and also the dramatic horizontal line in the tailgate which give it extra width and here it reminds me of the 205 GTI.

The wheels look huge on the car and the extra black wheel arch surrounds reinforces the size of the wheel arch and large tires to give it a pukka rally car look.

It's a wonderful design this car, many interesting shapes and lines on the body work.

In my opinion it's one of the most beautiful cars in this class.

advantage20 · Feb 24, 2019

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klier · Feb 24, 2019

Both look excellent. The 208 has the edge on the exterior, the Renault is maybe a bit cleaner on the inside, but the 208 is more special on the inside. Lots of stuff happening though inside the 208, maybe a bit too much.