911 (997) Official: New facelifted 997 Turbo revealed

[Tarek]

My fav Porsche just got even better..and the convertible is gorgeous

 

[m-power]

High res

 

[m-power]

Guys, what combination do you like most ???

this color is gorgeous

 

[wolfram]

So they are doing torque vectoring. Good move, especially for such a rear biased car

 

[Pekka]

Did you really have to sully an informative post with a stupid childish barb? Is respecting some good competition really that tough?

Wow, what's going on with you? You call my comments stupid and childish? Sunny, I don't know why you want to bash around but I can assure that my comments in this thread are everything but childish. I just want to discuss how Porsche answers the competition to it's greatest rival, the GT-R, ok? The GT-R is one great car. It's cheap (compared to it's competitors), it's heavy - and/but it's damned fast. It's a lot of technic and electronics making the GT-R this fast. Torque Vectoring is one component of the whole package. This is what I want to talk about.

Edit & BTT: Has someone more information regarding PTV? Seems that the Porsche Torque Vectoring uses the brake system whilst the Audi Sports Differential works with a 'real' multi-disk (Lamellenkupplung). After one day on the track the Porsches rear brake is probably trash.

 

[Cashmere]

Come on guys lets not get over sensitive and stray yet another thread off topic.

 

[Pekka]

I actually prefer the new wheels. The old ones always made me feel that Porsche had AMG were sourcing their wheels from the same place

They have different sources. The source of the 997 Mk. 1 (and 930) Turbo wheel is Fuchs (Exklusivschmiederäder, Porsche: Otto Fuchs KG). Fuchs is also the vendor of misc MB and AMG wheels http://www.fuchsfelge.de/index.php?id=85.

 

[CarGuy]

So far we have these pictures....

 

[Pekka]

Porsche 997 TT Mk2 Aerokit

Altezzas (available end of '09)

My prefered configuration (macadamia brown, beige interior, black center lock rims)

... the new interpretation of our current "Project 930"

 

[klier]

The center lock rims are amazing and very Carrera GT-ish.
I very much like those white backlights too. That's optional now or what??

 

[Pekka]

The center lock rims are amazing and very Carrera GT-ish.
I very much like those white backlights too. That's optional now or what??

The white backlights are available in 11/2009. They are Tequipment but you can order them as a standard option.

 

[ree]

Looks like both types of shift control are available:





and some different shots of the available rims and seats:

 

[Pekka]

Love the new steering wheel!

 

[coolraoul]

Ditto.

The one with the old controls is fugly though, and what's with the big PDK inscription above the Airbag?? Tacky...

I suppose the nice steering is optional? It doesn't come with the SC package, as only the car on the top with the ugly wheel has it, and not the one with the nice and sporty new wheel...

 

[Deleted member 25]

Very attractive this FL 997.

 

[Pekka]

I suppose the nice steering is optional? It doesn't come with the SC package, as only the car on the top with the ugly wheel has it, and not the one with the nice and sporty new wheel...

In Germany, the new sports steering wheel is available for 416,50 EUR (PDK paddles: left paddle > up - right paddle > down).

PTV is available for 1.309 EUR, the "Sport Chrono Paket Turbo" (sport chrono watch, overboost (+50 Nm = 700 Nm), dynamic engine brackets,...) costs 4.034,10 EUR (at the moment the price for Porsche Tequipment parts are rising in an inacceptable way... a sports exhaust for the Cayman costs ~1.000 EUR more than two weeks ago ).

 

[martinbo]

Any word on the mechanical operation of PTV? Porsche lists a mechanical limited slip differential in the press release but no real word on the operation of the rear axle. Does it use the superimposed planetary gearset like ZF's torque vectoring diff or is it just another braking system complement to an existing mechanical LSD?

 

[K-A]

Sorry for the quick O/T question, but I'm trying to catch up on some P-Car knowledge, and have been lusting after 996 Turbo's with how relatively good the deals can be had on them these days.

If you knowledgeable Porsche folk were to consider buying either a 997 Carrera, or a 996 Turbo, which would you go for and why? Also, is there any good place to ask this? Or any good write-ups which focus on the pros and cons of each, in comparison with each other? Thanks.

 

[martinbo]

996 Turbo. In its day it was regarded as the single best all-round car by many car publications. Apparently, it's still a life changing experience to drive even this older model.

 

[K-A]

Nice, yeah I really don't think I could ever get a regular 997 over a 996 Turbo. I'm just wondering more-so if there are any major technology/reliability/safety, etc. improvements in the 997 which would make it a worthy competitor to buy, aside from just being a newer car.