S-Class (W223) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223)

[Ozy]

I wonder if they designed the W223 with Maybach in mind because the two-tone paint job works really well with the catwalk line and the horizontal taillights. Further, the shape of the grill works very well with the vertical bars. Probably not but it's Friday and I have my tinfoil hat on.

ps. Those multispoke wheels are the best in business.

Given that the new design language for the luxury segment originated from the recent Maybach concepts, it seems most probable.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I like it MB are going more towards luxury, like in the old days. I’ll bet most of the compact cars are going to be axed. According to Ola they don’t bring enough profit.
If the quality matches the prizes it’s fine with me.

 

[W201]

I can see CLA Shooting Brake and B-Class getting axed, but the rest of the compact offering, not so much.

Margin may not be on the S-Class level - but they sell lots of units, and that brings lots of money, still.

 

[SKY]

I think there is going to be a considerale shrink of MB's portfolio. A-Sedan, CLA SB, B-Class, GLB, C-Coupe, C-Cabrio, E-Coupe, E-Cabrio, CLS and GT 4dr will probably be gone once the current models hit the end of their life cycle.

 

[Merc1]

Mercedes won't look the same in 5 years. There won't be coupe or convertible outside of the SL and the AMG GT left it appears. The V8 and I6 will be reserved for the E, S and AMG models only.

M

 

[SKY]

Mercedes won't look the same in 5 years. There won't be coupe or convertible outside of the SL and the AMG GT left it appears. The V8 and I6 will be reserved for the E, S and AMG models only.

M

The problem is how un-exciting the upcoming EV line up appears to be. I look at the EQE and EQS, including the SUVs and then look at what Porsche, Audi and even VW are doing and I can't see MB being at the top of the game.

The same or worse could be said about BMW.

 

[Serpens]

The problem is how un-exciting the upcoming EV line up appears to be. I look at the EQE and EQS, including the SUVs and then look at what Porsche, Audi and even VW are doing and I can't see MB being at the top of the game.

The same or worse could be said about BMW.

What are they doing that's so much more exciting? We're already going to be getting an AMG EQS. I'm sure there's other variants to follow. I think we'll see some sort of sports car announcement by the end of next year.

EDIT: If you're talking about styling, then yes I may be with you there. I'm not holding my breath that these are going to be visually pleasing but we'll see.

 

[Merc1]

The problem is how un-exciting the upcoming EV line up appears to be. I look at the EQE and EQS, including the SUVs and then look at what Porsche, Audi and even VW are doing and I can't see MB being at the top of the game.

The same or worse could be said about BMW.

That part! Their EQ vehicles will be failures, I have been saying this for a while now. They're mediocre at best, and this is ME saying this. Mercedes used to execute on the same level as Porsche, but those days are long gone. Now maybe this contraction will produce better vehicles, but they're cost cutting also, so no it won't happen. Their current lineup + the new SL will likely be their peak for a while. An all 4-cylinder C-Class makes me want to vomit.

M

 

[SKY]

What are they doing that's so much more exciting? We're already going to be getting an AMG EQS. I'm sure there's other variants to follow. I think we'll see some sort of sports car announcement by the end of next year.

I could use @Merc1 response as mine. I would add what Porsche or Audi are doing at least looks good. Taycan, Macan EV, e-tron GT, Q4... All look great.

Does the EQS look great based on the spy pics? The EQE perhaps?

Nope!

 

[Mick Briesgau]

EQS doesn’t look great no, not at all. Once it’s unwrapped we know for sure, but I can’t imagine it looks good. Not in the eyes of the average S class buyer, I’m afraid. When I’m informed correctly, MB are trying to pick up this category of buyers too with the EQS. All I can say, at least one of them they are losing on the way to their S class BEV. Why can’t EQS look like a real S to die for? A classic, sleek and elegant sedan, long hood, normal trunk.

 

[Serpens]

I could use @Merc1 response as mine. I would add what Porsche or Audi are doing at least looks good. Taycan, Macan EV, e-tron GT, Q4... All look great.

Does the EQS look great based on the spy pics? The EQE perhaps?

Nope!

I edited my post before you responded. Wanted to make sure you were just talking about styling. I agree there- I'm not particularly confident in the EQS design. We'll see I guess.

 

[Pagani]

Porsche Taycan is the first car that has me dreaming of owning an electric vehicle. The e-Tron GT from Audi is even better and somehow more suitable looking. I hold no hope the EQS will look like anything excited, thought it may well execute better on things that are practical. For example I don’t doubt it will be the most spacious and comfortable. Perhaps even the most efficient and ergonomic. But exciting? I would bet against it.

 

[TheDeadMan]

Given that the new design language for the luxury segment originated from the recent Maybach concepts, it seems most probable.

This discuss sounds silly.Why not? They couldn't be that foolish,right?!given the first one has been a money printer for them...actually during most time of its life span,you can't buy one without being charged a premium in its main market China.

 

[TheDeadMan]

EQS doesn’t look great no, not at all. Once it’s unwrapped we know for sure, but I can’t imagine it looks good. Not in the eyes of the average S class buyer, I’m afraid. When I’m informed correctly, MB are trying to pick up this category of buyers too with the EQS. All I can say, at least one of them they are losing on the way to their S class BEV. Why can’t EQS look like a real S to die for? A classic, sleek and elegant sedan, long hood, normal trunk.

Although I hate the shapes of the EQ series,but I totally understand why they had to bring something new onto the table to make sure they are new/radical products that from a totally separated model line.

 

[AHall42631]

I may have not seen the latest EQS sedan, but the concept sedan present several months back looked pretty good to me. Unfortunately the production will look different. I have seen the Taycan and to me the design is not all that attractive. The only Porsche I am excited about is the 992 Turbo S, primarily because of the insane performance. It is not like Porsche's design is ground breaking.

 

[Ozy]

Mercedes showed with the EQS concept that they can make a very good looking EV if they want, that car already had production car proportions, it wouldn’t be difficult to just put it in production, so the less attractive production EQS and the rest seem to look like that by decision - and I think they will all look less attractive than the current ICE lineup of their alternatives at Mercedes. Battery and EV tech is not yet much more preferred over ICE, so Mercedes will have way more money from their traditional models for quite a few years, thus there is no sense to cannibalize the sales. I agree that with the current S class, Maybach, then SL they will reach quite a peak in their design language, but there is a chance that the next gen ICE models (the few which will be made) will have less attractive designs, and then they will put their best work into the EQ line, which by then will overtake the sales of the traditional models. Mercedes has the EQC now, and will present 7 new electric cars next year - they will be on the market with quite a lineup of cars, and I think that’s all they need for now, presence, not domination.
Porsche has the Taycan, and the Audi GT is coming out soon as well, but both brands have less cars than Mercedes and both of these cars happen to be original, not competing with their other models, so the case is a bit different.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Today I saw it in real life. A S 400d 4-Matic, graphit grey/ black interior.
To be honest, I’m sorry I did... this is going to be an expensive pleasure.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Today I saw it in real life. A S 400d 4-Matic, graphit grey/ black interior.
To be honest, I’m sorry I did... this is going to be an expensive pleasure.

Pondering on placing an order?

 

[fortuner]

Pondering on placing an order?

I say its a done deal ...

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Pondering on placing an order?

First have to drive it and experience it in every day use, but yes, I’m contemplating.