S-Class W222 [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W222 Facelift) 2017-2020


The Mercedes-Benz W222 is the sixth generation of the Mercedes Benz S-Class produced from 2013 to 2020, serving as the successor to the W221 S-Class and predecessor to the W223 S-Class. The W222 has a similar design theme to the C-Class (W205) and E-Class (W213).
As much as I love the S-Class Sedan, I wish the coupe and cabriolet were getting this level of attention. The 2018 models won't even go on sale until like mid 2018, which makes no sense to me. The S560 Coupe and Cabrio deserve their time also.

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Not a bad review, I quite like the male/female perspective - just a pity about the background noise.
 
MBUSA is having the press drive of new S class line up, so can expect few new reviews from US auto medias


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2018 Mercedes-Benz S-Class first drive review: driving the most- and least-expensive models
Kirk Bell -- Motor Authority
The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is widely recognized as one of the most luxurious full-size cars on the market, and with that luxury comes an exclusive price. But there is luxury and then there is luxury and there is exclusive and then there is exclusive.

We already reviewed the 2018 Mercedes-Benz S-Class and declared it a relaxation chamber.

That drive, which took place in Switzerland and Germany a couple months ago, featured the volume model, the S560 4Matic, and the high-performance S63 4Matic+. This week I got the chance to test out three additional models that nicely round out the product range, two more ultra-luxurious choices that top the range, and the car at the very bottom of the lineup. Let's take a look at each.

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2018 Mercedes-AMG S65

Sometimes eight cylinders just aren’t enough. Some buyers want to check every box, and the Mercedes-AMG S65 is the car for them, even with its $230,495 starting price. It comes with a 6.0-liter twin-turbocharged V-12 that churns out 621 horsepower from 4,800 to 5,800 rpm and 738 pound-feet of torque from 2,300 to 4,300 rpm.

Despite all that power, the S65 is not the fastest car in the S-Class lineup. Offered only with rear-wheel drive, it just can’t put the power down like the all-wheel-drive S63, and therefore its 4.1-second 0-60 mph time takes a backseat to the S63’s 3.4-second 0-60 blast. Both cars, however, top out at an electronically limited 186 mph.

But off-the-line sprints are not the only way to judge an engine. The V-12 is the embodiment of effortless power. It is the smoothest engine in a lineup full of smooth engines, and it feels like a big ol’ jet airliner upon takeoff when accelerating. Mercedes usually reigns in all those cylinders, keeping them to a reserved purr in all but the hardest acceleration.

Opt for the Sport Plus mode, though, and the exhaust note perks up, announcing its refined rumble more vociferously and letting out some burbles, snaps, and pops upon deceleration. The sound isn’t as boy racer as you get with other AMGs. It’s more mature and commanding.

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The V-12 adds about 400 pounds to the front end, and the S65 also doesn’t offer the S63’s air suspension. Both of these considerations mean it can’t handle like the S63. The S63 has a quicker acting air suspension while the S65 has Mercedes’ Magic Body Control hydraulic suspension. It’s more comfort oriented than the S63’s setup, and it has some cool elements of its own.

The hydraulic suspension allows the S65 to tilt the car inward 2.65 degrees in a turn. This counteracts the effects of g forces in the turn for passengers, creating a more comfortable driving experience. It isn’t meant to make the car go faster through the turn, though that may be a side benefit.

Magic Body Control also reads the road ahead with a stereo camera behind the windshield and readies the suspension for bumps and potholes, letting the car glide over them like they weren’t even there. Again, this is quite luxurious.

The other features that make the S65 stand out are on the outside. It gets the same grille as the S63, but its exterior details are chromed, and its wheels are alloys polished to a high gloss. The most important elements of the exterior design? The S65 and Biturbo V12 badges. They show you have arrived, even before you get in the car.

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Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic

While the S65 can be distinguished by what’s under its hood and what it wears on its exterior, the S560 Maybach is all about the interior. Every S-Class is luxurious, but the Maybach is downright opulent.

It all starts with 8 inches of extra rear legroom. Every model of the S-Class we get in the U.S. is based on the long-wheelbase body style, but the S560 Maybach has a longlong-wheelbase setup. It’s basically a limo. Buyers get the Executive Rear Seating package standard with two outboard seats that can recline 43.5 degrees, two fold-out calf supports and a pair of separate pillows. Also standard is the Nappa Exclusive Leather upholstery (two steps up from the base leather), an Extended Leather interior, ambient lighting for the rear seat, and heated and ventilated front and rear seats with massage at the four outboard positions.

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Interior options include a no-cost leather headliner, hand-crafted champagne flutes, and the four-seat Executive Rear Seat Package Plus with a large rear center console and two fold-out rear tables.

The interior upgrades make the rear seat of the S560 Maybach the place to be. The vast leg room lets most people stretch their legs out straight, and the seats recline, massage, heat, ventilate, and otherwise coddle. The extra leather and ambient lighting create an even more inviting cabin. It’s a great place for a nap or to get work done for those who like to be driven.

On the outside the Maybach is easy to spot by its ultra-long rear doors, its chromed B-pillars, a third triangular rear side window, and the MM logos for Maybach Manufacturing.

From behind the wheel, the extra length doesn’t affect the twin-turbo 463-hp 4.0-liter V-8 power delivery noticeably. It’s still quick, with a 0-60 mph time around 4.8 seconds. However, the 8 extra inches of length is a detriment to handling. At almost 18 feet long, this is a truly big car and it turns more like a wiener dog than a schnauzer. Of all the S-Classes, the Maybach models are best to be driven in, rather than drive. The price for your own personal limo? $169,595, before options, and who can pass up $3,000 champagne flutes?

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Mercedes-Benz S450

The S450 is the new base model in the S-Class range. It features a 3.0-liter turbocharged V-6 that puts out 362 hp and 369 pound-feet of torque instead of the brand new 48-volt, turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-6 that is offered in Europe. The V-6 is the same engine as offered in several AMG 43 products, where it is a premium choice, but here it represents the bottom of the lineup.

The V-6 provides plenty of power in the S450, and if you never drove another S-Class you wouldn’t know that you needed more. The 0-60 mph sprint takes just 5.4 seconds. However, after driving the 621-hp S65 and the 463-hp S560 Maybach, the S450 lacks midrange response for passing. With those two cars, passing is a matter of a thought and a tilt of the right foot. In the S450, it requires a little more planning and space. The V-6 also isn’t quite as smooth as the V-8 and nowhere near as smooth as the V-12, and it’s sound isn’t as rich as either of the larger engines.

The S450 starts at $90,895, $10,000 less than the S560. For that money, it comes with a little less than you get in other cars. The leather is the base grade, which isn’t bad but isn’t as supple as the alternatives. The dash and doors are covered with a soft-touch leatherette instead of real leather, and the overall equipment level is lower.

However, some of the cool features are still standard, including navigation, a Burmester sound system (though not the top-end version), soft-close doors, a panoramic sunroof, and the Energizing Comfort system that comes with climate control, fragrance diffusion system, ambient lighting, music, seat heaters/coolers, and seat massagers (when ordered).

The base S450 is quite luxurious, but Mercedes offers a variety of S-Classes to accommodate every taste and pocketbook/investment portfolio. Each of the cars has a viable place in the lineup. It's just a matter of how luxurious and how exclusive you want to get. With any S-Class it's hard to go wrong.

Mercedes-Benz provided travel and lodging to Internet Brands Automotive to bring you this firsthand report.

2018 Mercedes-Benz S-Class first drive review: driving the most- and least-expensive models
 
Seems to be correct, they also reduce the model line, seems like the normal S 600L is no more, also they reduce the level of wheel options and upholstery choices....ffs Mercedes Australia....not the S class too!

Also
we get the new inline 6 diesel, but no inline 6 petrol the same twin turbo V6 remains but with power tune up to 270kw.

Full article here:
2018 Mercedes-Benz S-Class pricing and specs | CarAdvice

It would be unfortunate if the S600 is discontinued. Is there a chance the car's release is merely delayed? Isn't the S600 an iconic version of the Mercedes S class? If they want to cut the number of versions of the S class they should cut the low end variants or cut the S63 or S65.
 
It would be unfortunate if the S600 is discontinued. Is there a chance the car's release is merely delayed? Isn't the S600 an iconic version of the Mercedes S class? If they want to cut the number of versions of the S class they should cut the low end variants or cut the S63 or S65.

Haven't you heard? No more S600. Only Maybach S650 & S65.

Sales of the regular S600 were negligible.
 
It would be unfortunate if the S600 is discontinued. Is there a chance the car's release is merely delayed? Isn't the S600 an iconic version of the Mercedes S class? If they want to cut the number of versions of the S class they should cut the low end variants or cut the S63 or S65.
For the Australian market anyway, people hardly buys the S 600 anymore, despite its iconic status. 99.9% of the S class I see are either the S 350d or the S 400. It is rare to see t he S 500, or the S 63. Apparently there are only ten S 65 in Australia. From MB Australia's point of view it makes sense to discontinue the least popular models.
 
I think part of the problem was that the "600" cars were really like old men cars. The SL600, S/CL600 Coupe and now the S600 sedan. Ultra luxurious, but kinda dull and old manish vs the S63 and the S65 for similar money. I knew the S600 now S650 Maybach would make the regular S600 obsolete. I always thought that the regular S600 (before these Maybach versions came along) should have had wider fenders and a much different grille, you know like the old 500E was vs the 300E back in the W124 days. They needed something to set them apart IMO. Just having a V12 wasn't enough apparently. Hopefully the next generation Maybachs will get a slightly wider body with winder fenders/hips, a much bolder grille, and with even more customization available inside.

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I think part of the problem was that the "600" cars were really like old men cars. The SL600, S/CL600 Coupe and now the S600 sedan. Ultra luxurious, but kinda dull and old manish vs the S63 and the S65 for similar money. I knew the S600 now S650 Maybach would make the regular S600 obsolete. I always thought that the regular S600 (before these Maybach versions came along) should have had wider fenders and a much different grille, you know like the old 500E was vs the 300E back in the W124 days. They needed something to set them apart IMO. Just having a V12 wasn't enough apparently. Hopefully the next generation Maybachs will get a slightly wider body with winder fenders/hips, a much bolder grille, and with even more customization available inside.

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When I think of S600/SL600 (W140/R129/R230), at least back in that era, the owner was usually some old captain of industry who went to the country club on the weekends.

Presently, in the days of AMG body styling and "high-performance" AMG sedans, a lot of young(er) successful people now account for a large market share.. Both of these aspects did not exist 20-30 years ago. MB's in general don't look as baroque as they used to.

And interestingly enough, lots of older clients also like sporty nature of AMGs. (Yes, anecdotal evidence) I was at my local MB dealer and saw a couple in their 80's taking dealery of a S63. For me, it was certainly eye-brow raising.

I'm not so old (so I think) and have owned a few S Classes, but if I were the same age I am now 20 years ago, I don't think the equivalent higher-end S500/S600/SL600 would piqued my interests at all.
 
Thanks very much Sunny.

Basically, I have spreadsheets which I keep updated with the technical data of various cars. For a car like the BMW 540i, I regard that as a single turbo, as it's a twin-scroll single turbo. I just wanted to know what I put in my spreadsheet for this new OM 656 engine. Is it a traditional twin-turbo or is it a single twin-scroll turbo.

The supplier just issued a press release for you, talking about this new R2S turbo with cast steel housing. :)

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BorgWarner’s R2S® Turbocharging Technology Boosts Engine Performance
  • First-to-market R2S turbocharger to feature a cost-efficient cast steel housing
  • New compact design to meet challenging installation geometries
  • Improves performance and fuel economy
Auburn Hills, Michigan, October 17, 2017 – BorgWarner provides its leading regulated two-stage (R2S®) turbocharger for Daimler’s latest 2.9-liter six-cylinder inline diesel engine OM 656, which is initially featured in the updated Mercedes-Benz S-Class launched in 2017. Meeting the requirements of state-of-the-art engine concepts, BorgWarner’s advanced turbocharging technology contributes to enhanced fuel economy and improves torque, performance and exhaust gas recirculation rates even under full-load conditions while significantly reducing emissions.

“Due to its optimized design, our turbocharging solution helps automakers overcome challenging system placement demands such as a tight fit and high temperatures,” said Frédéric Lissalde, President and General Manager, BorgWarner Turbo Systems. “We are pleased to support our customers by delivering our highly efficient R2S turbocharging technology to meet the highest possible standards.”

The first R2S turbocharger on the market to have a turbine housing made of very robust cast steel also features a water-cooled e-actuator, bearing housing and compressor housing.

BorgWarner’s R2S turbocharging solution consists of two turbochargers arranged in series – a compact high-pressure exhaust gas turbocharger featuring the company’s latest variable turbine geometry technology and a larger waste-gated low-pressure one with ported shroud compressor. While running at low engine speeds, the small high-pressure turbocharger provides most of the boost and at the same time excellent response, so that the driver does not experience any turbo lag. With increasing engine speed, a bypass begins to open, so that nearly all of the gases flow directly towards the low-pressure turbocharger which takes over the main compression work to provide high boost pressures with excellent efficiency. Controlled by an electrical actuator, BorgWarner’s R2S turbocharging technology adapts quickly to changing situations for fast response and significantly reduced emissions.
 
7 More Things To Know About The Mercedes-Benz S-Class

1. No Drifts For You
The Mercedes-AMG S63 has the same 4Matic+ driveline as the E63 S – but unfortunately, that car’s Drift Mode isn’t available on the S63. Engineers decided it would be too “uncouth” for an S-Class, says Nick Martin, AMG Product Manager at Mercedes-Benz. (I disagree: I’d tip extra if my chauffeur drifted on the way to my destination.)

2. Northeastern Star
Twenty percent of all S-Classes in the U.S. are sold in the New York tri-state area – that’s New York, Connecticut, and New Jersey, or areas that Mercedes considers “drivable” to Manhattan. It’s a hugely important market for the luxury model; the Manhattan dealership handles 150 service appointments per day, or about 41,000 annually.

3. AMGs Are Uncommon
Cool (and powerful) as they may be, the AMG variants of the S-Class are not particularly popular sales-wise. At just 5 percent of all S-Class volume, “It's a very rare car,” Martin says.

4. U.S. Customers Like To Drive
Mercedes doesn’t have a lot of direct data on how many S-Class owners drive for themselves versus have a chauffeur, but it uses the Executive Rear Seating package as a good indicator – why would you pay for the fancy back seats if you weren’t going to sit back there? About 10 percent of S-Class buyers opt for that pack, and around 30 percent of Maybach shoppers do. Mercedes officials say you can probably extrapolate those numbers to estimate whether the cars are owner- or chauffeur-driven.

5. Launch Control
The 2018 S63 marks the first time an S-Class has ever offered Race Start, AMG’s brand name for launch control. It’s what enables such a rapid sprint to 60 miles per hour – just 3.4 seconds – from a car that weighs 4,806 pounds.

6. Those Carbon-Ceramic Brakes Are Durable
The optional brakes on the S63 and S65 are essentially the same units employed by the Mercedes-AMG GT S safety car. And its carbon ceramics lasted three Formula 1 seasons of intense use before needing replacement. In other words, the brakes will be more than capable of slowing your AMG time and time again. They’re an $8,950 option on the S63 and S65.

7. Mercedes Is A Huge Player In The Six-Figure Car Realm
One in three new cars sold in the U.S. costing more than $100,000 is a Mercedes, the company claims. Obviously pricey exotics, like McLarens and Ferraris, sell in very small numbers, but it shows just how many high-value cars Mercedes dealers sell – whether they be S-Classes, AMG variants, Maybachs, or wild toys like the AMG GT and G65.


7 More Things To Know About The Mercedes-Benz S-Class

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Are there differences in the suspension between S560 and S63? What about noise insulation? Is the S63 as quiet and comfortable as a 560 when it's in the softest settings? Or is the S63 a firmer and louder ride regardless of settings?
 
Are there differences in the suspension between S560 and S63? What about noise insulation? Is the S63 as quiet and comfortable as a 560 when it's in the softest settings? Or is the S63 a firmer and louder ride regardless of settings?

From my experience with the pre-facelift cars, there wasn't any difference in noise (outside of engine/exhaust) between a sport-pack S550 and S63. The S63 was definitely a degree firmer than the s550 in all situations but nowhere near harsh. Mercedes is very careful to make all models ride like an S-class should in comfort mode.
 
I don't see that much difference between AMG line and AMG line plus exterior; just bigger wheels, partly painted in black. To me, the facelift AMG line is too bulky, not as elegant as a S Klasse should be, imo.

Sorry for late reply, been crazy busy. You are correct, i typed it wrong. It is the interior seats and luxury pack that changes in my country.


From my experience with the pre-facelift cars, there wasn't any difference in noise (outside of engine/exhaust) between a sport-pack S550 and S63. The S63 was definitely a degree firmer than the s550 in all situations but nowhere near harsh. Mercedes is very careful to make all models ride like an S-class should in comfort mode.

The engine noise was the reason i choose the S560 over the S63 AMG. I considered the noise level from an AMG, after watching several videos. The noise from a s560 is more subdued. In addition you cannot get the Magic Body Control with S63 AMG, only S65 AMG and S560, because of the 4matic cannot be combined with Magic Body Control.

I was thinking about why i am buying an S-Class.

Do i want the most flashy car?
Wrong car.

Do i want the most expensive looking car?
Wrong car.

Do i want the fastest car in a straight line?
Wrong car.

Do i want the fastest car around a lap?
Wrong car.

Even if you add "for the money", it does not help much on the above, and AMG or no AMG does not help much(maybe a little).

Do i want the most silent car?
Right car.

Do i want the most comfortable car?
Right car.

Do i want the most luxurious car?
Right car.

There may be some better alternatives than S560, in some categories, but not for the price. It does not help at all to add AMG to the 3 latest points. The look of the car stays almost the same.

The price is almost the same for S560 and S63 in my country. 2 200 000 Mercedes-Benz Car Configurator vs 2 500 000 Mercedes-Benz Car Configurator, a small difference in this price range as i see it. And then i would loose the Magic Body Control.

So i ordered the S560. But not a day goes by, without me thinking i should upgrade to a S63. But when i think about it, it feels like a downgrade. I think i will just buy another car for sport, maybe a 911? I also was thinking a Panamera for a long time, but i fell in love with the facelift S-Class, and i always wanted one.

What do you guys think?
 

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Mercedes-Benz Group AG is headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany. Established in 1926, Mercedes-Benz Group produces consumer luxury vehicles and light commercial vehicles badged as Mercedes-Benz, Mercedes-AMG, and Mercedes-Maybach. Its origin lies in Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft's 1901 Mercedes and Carl Benz's 1886 Benz Patent-Motorwagen, which is widely regarded as the first internal combustion engine in a self-propelled automobile. The slogan for the brand is "the best or nothing".

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