EQS [Official] Mercedes-Benz EQS

[sl0519]

come on guys...now you are a little boring
how many times do we must repeat that?
if you give the production version the same wheels and if you tint the glasses...the production car isnt as far different from the concept anymore
sure...its not the same, but which car is? the concept car is a SHOW car. If the production model had such lower greenhouse, nobody could sit in the rear...
so please...cut the crap and calm down

I don't buy that argument. I will throw one better example of how it should've been done.

No offense, but as a market leader, they clearly didn't try hard to stay true to the concept.

 

[AndreB]

The side profile is pretty similar, but the sculpturing of the A pillar on the concept is muscular, the body is wider than the green house and that gives it stance. That's why Taycan looks so good, the body sculpturing is done right.

On the production EQS the A pillar just drops down almost flat and it extends into the hood, it doesn't go under like on the concept.
The is the green house is too low compared to the windshield, like some Honda I've just passed by today.

All that makes it look bland and not even close to the concept. Maybe in real life it looks better, sporty.

The strong point of EQS are interior space, comfort and probably range.

 

[dalab]

come on guys...now you are a little boring
how many times do we must repeat that?
if you give the production version the same wheels and if you tint the glasses...the production car isnt as far different from the concept anymore
sure...its not the same, but which car is? the concept car is a SHOW car. If the production model had such lower greenhouse, nobody could sit in the rear...
so please...cut the crap and calm down

I honestly see two totally different cars with the same paint job and wheels, the key general lines, proportions and arrangement of elements is different, it is the same idea with a quite distant execution, one of the most distant that I remember between a concept and its production model

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

You mentioned sophistication and not design. The design is certainly controversial and not liked by all, but a Mercedes Benz is always a sophisticated car and normally a cut above most production cars in this discipline, including Tesla's and probably Lucid. We will have to wait for the comparison tests of all 3 cars and then we can judge which is the best.

The EQS won't compete with the Model S but only with the S class. So it will steal sales from its own brand only. What makes this almost a fact:
Comparable are Tesla long range with dual motors and the EQS 580
Power: Tesla 670 ps, EQS 530 ps
Acceleration: Tesla 0-60 miles/h in 3,1 s, EQS 0-100km/h 4,3 s
Weight: Tesla 2050 kg, EQS 2580 kg
Range:Tesla (EPA) 412 miles, EQS won't get more than 350 miles. The claim for 770 km WLTP is absolutely ridiculous and unashamedly idiotic. Even Daimler gives 20-16 kWh/h consumption acc WLTP which translates to 550 -675 km.
And the most important part
PRICE:Tesla 79 000 USD, EQS 130 000 EUR or 158 000 USD or exactly double the price.

 

[Sonder]

 

[Ozy]

I don't buy that argument. I will throw one better example of how it should've been done.

No offense, but as a market leader, they clearly didn't try hard to stay true to the concept.

First of all the concept was less extreme compared to the EQS concept. The other is that it’s actually different and the longer lower bumpers both front and rear are awkward as well. Besides the similarities between the concepts and production version, objectively both cars are just ok, both EQS and Taycan, none of them are better than their ICE siblings, it’s just the EQS is cooler and more spacious on the inside.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

As my guardian, Alfred has a bunch of Wayne Industries stock options. He's a billionaire who makes my PB&J sandwiches.

From eating lobster thermador to PB&J sandwiches? I guess the semi-conductor shortage hit Wayne Industries pretty hard!

Here's a better comparison of side profile between concept & reality:

Eeeek!

Just looking at the comparison, while a concept generally looks more visually appealing than its production counterpart, I can't help look at that comparison and think what adding a few inches to the length of the rear deck would to strenngthen its visual appeal.

The Merc is the boss.
The Tesla is boring AF + totally outdated
A KnightRider steering wheel doesnt help

Yeah, the Model S is objectively long in the tooth, but the proportions of the Model S are just classically attractive.

I have a better idea- why don't you buy directly Elon?

Don't know if that's a good idea. I mean, I'm sure he's an interesting dude, but after he takes a few bong rips, I bet he'll get pretty tedious, talk all night long about Dogecoin memes and being a self-anointed Technoking of this simulated virtual world, and then eat all your food only to pay you back in Dogecoins. He seems like a dude who'd be alright in small doses.

 

[DjordjeC63]

Sweet Jesus. That Tesla looks impossibly good for a design that's been around for this amount of time. It's almost Porsche-esque in its sport-luxury appearance. The EQS is a definite third in terms of design in this company.

Designer of Model S worked for Mazda:

Franz von Holzhausen

 

[Sonder]

No offense, but as a market leader, they clearly didn't try hard to stay true to the concept.

this is simply not true...they had to keep the car practial
AutoBild reporter which is 1,90 tall, said that the head space for him in the rear is at the maximum
so how would it be even with a lower greenhouse?
you are forgetting, that under the car there are batteries and so you dont have so much space
+ the panoramic sunroof also takes it's cut

the production taycan is really more the same to the concept, then the Benz
but have you sit in the back? i did and with my 186 i was really uncomfortable there
Mercedes-Benz cant afford something like that, specially when it has the letter S in the name

 

[Merc1]

The EQS won't compete with the Model S but only with the S class. So it will steal sales from its own brand only. What makes this almost a fact:
Comparable are Tesla long range with dual motors and the EQS 580
Power: Tesla 670 ps, EQS 530 ps
Acceleration: Tesla 0-60 miles/h in 3,1 s, EQS 0-100km/h 4,3 s
Weight: Tesla 2050 kg, EQS 2580 kg
Range:Tesla (EPA) 412 miles, EQS won't get more than 350 miles. The claim for 770 km WLTP is absolutely ridiculous and unashamedly idiotic. Even Daimler gives 20-16 kWh/h consumption acc WLTP which translates to 550 -675 km.
And the most important part
PRICE:Tesla 79 000 USD, EQS 130 000 EUR or 158 000 USD or exactly double the price.

Of course they’re competitors. The specs don’t have to line up exactly for buyers to compare and cross shop them.

M

 

[Sonder]

I honestly see two totally different cars with the same paint job and wheels, the key general lines, proportions and arrangement of elements is different, it is the same idea with a quite distant execution, one of the most distant that I remember between a concept and its production model

honestly, you need to buy yourself some new glasses
and again: the proportions couldnt be like the concept, because of the aerodynamics, batteries and headspace

 

[Merc1]

honestly, you need to buy yourself some new glasses
and again: the proportions couldnt be like the concept, because of the aerodynamics, batteries and headspace

This is still their own fault. If all these things were going to be a problem from concept to production, then the concept should have been a thinly veiled production car, not some pie in the sky concept that had no chance at making it into production with the same look in tact. This is Mercedes’ fault not anyone else’s. The production car is funny/goofy looking at best. Worst goes without saying.

M

 

[dalab]

honestly, you need to buy yourself some new glasses
and again: the proportions couldnt be like the concept, because of the aerodynamics, batteries and headspace

I was going to write that to you, but it sounded a bit strong to me, I see that not to you.

I really do not understand how you can see anything other than the reality that jumps out and that we all see, in addition to what @Merc1 correctly indicates, there are several examples such as the Tycan, where they decided to be faithful to the concept no matter what, here in the EQS obviously had a decision to follow another course or generate something that they knew they would not fulfill.

I insist that I do not understand how you can see a similarity between one and the other apart from the painting and that it has four wheels:

 

[Sonder]

@Merc1 wait what? so you are saying Mercedes should not make hot concept car, because then guys like you would be to disapointed? rofl...
@dalab its not only the painting and the 4 wheels, its the greenhouse, the front grill, the round rear....

its funny how some of you are shocked now...
almost 1 year the pre-production cars were drivinig camuflaged around, even were parked with the concept car, where you could CLEARLY see and tell, that the proportions wont be so hot and cool like the concpet.....and now some of you are surrprised all of a suden? LoL give me a break guyz...

 

[Merc1]

No I'm saying they shouldn't make a hot concept car if they can't get even remotely close to it for production. It's really quite simple. Mercedes has gotten much closer before with a concept to production vehicle. They shouldn't make a hot concept if all we're going to get is bunch of tired excuses as to why the production version looks like shit.

M

 

[Amat46]

Fanboyism is strong in this thread

 

[Sonder]

hey shouldn't make a hot concept if all we're going to get is bunch of tired excuses as to why the production version looks like shit.

M

but it doesnt...for my opinion it looks great
and i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one
sure, its not hot like the concept, but i expect that...
for example if you take the F200 concpet for example...the real deal even was not a coupe, but the W220 limo, no drive by wire, only the front lamps and grill were in the production car. But did somebody cry in the forums that Mercedes sucks? no.

 

[martinbo]

Barring the two tone exterior paint job, there is absolutely nothing in common design-wise between the EQS concept and production cars.

 

[fortuner]

Fanboyism is strong in this thread

Lol in every thread I guess..

 

[Mick Briesgau]

My guess is, that no one who’s planning to buy a new car and who can choose between a traditional S and this EQS, is seriously considering the EQS. Unless he’s a very convinced BEV-believer and would never consider a car like the S or a 7er. BEV just have too many practical disadvantages to invest €150.000. For that money you get a very nice equiped W223.
I’d never spend this kind of money on a battery. FCEV maybe, but never BEV. MB has guaranteed the battery for only 250.000 kilometer. I mean € 150.000 for 250.000 kilometer...