EQS [Official] Mercedes-Benz EQS

[Merc1]

but it doesnt...for my opinion it looks great
and i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one
sure, its not hot like the concept, but i expect that...
for example if you take the F200 concpet for example...the real deal even was not a coupe, but the W220 limo, no drive by wire, only the front lamps and grill were in the production car. But did somebody cry in the forums that Mercedes sucks? no.

Great, and in my and most other opinions it doesn't look good. I don't except a car to look nothing like the concept that was used to preview it, but hey it's whatever you need to tell yourself to make this fit for you.

M

 

[Sonder]

My guess is, that no one who’s planning to buy a new car and who can choose between a traditional S and this EQS, is going for the EQS. Unless he’s a very convinced BEV-believer and would never consider a car like the S or a 7er. BEV just have too many practical disadvantages to invest €150.000. For that money you get a very nice equiped W223.
I’d never spend this kind of money on a battery. FCEV maybe, but never BEV. MB has guaranteed the battery for only 250.000 kilometer. I mean € 150.000 for 250.000 kilometer...

i would definitely choose the EQS and not the S, although i had 6x S-Classes in my life.
Reason?
- almost free riding (specially the 1st year)
- fastback doors (i have a dog)
- more futuristic exterior and specially interior
- silence in the cabin
- sportier driving (because better distributed center of gravity of the car)

I dont care for the battery warranty, i would have it 1-3 years, so i would made 20.000 km - 60.000 km

 

[Matski]

honestly, you need to buy yourself some new glasses
and again: the proportions couldnt be like the concept, because of the aerodynamics, batteries and headspace

@Sonder generally speaking, I agree with an opinion that says Concept cars need to be free to push boundaries, rather than stay within production constraints just to keep forumites pacified, but... even if there's entirely plausible reasons why a concept couldn't be translated directly to reality, it doesn't stop either the finished product, or the concept being judged from an 'absolute' point of view. The production EQS doesn't just fail to deliver based on the concept, it fails to deliver on what people might expect from a brand new, very expensive, cutting edge Mercedes-Benz... it' seems to fail to deliver based on even average expectations. You can defend the discrepancy between concept and production - as I have done many times - but if the production version is worse than other reasonable production benchmarks, that is significantly less defensible.

 

[Sonder]

n my and most other opinions it doesn't look good.

khm. yeah....sure...
i rest my case...
100 man, 100 miracles - 100 woman, 200 boobs

 

[Sonder]

@Sonder The production EQS doesn't just fail to deliver based on the concept, it fails to deliver on what people might expect from a brand new, very expensive, cutting edge Mercedes-Benz... it' seems to fail to deliver based on even average expectations. .

not in my opinion
and i'm sure i'm not the only one
for me it was a surpirse actually, i really like the car...only thing that the car needs, are 3 things to make him look more badass:
- tinted glass
- 21-22'' wheels
- the side skirts in car color

everything else for my opinion looks great.....

 

[Merc1]

khm. yeah....sure...
i rest my case...
100 man, 100 miracles - 100 woman, 200 boobs

So in other words you're done.

M

 

[Matski]

not in my opinion
and i'm sure i'm not the only one
for me it was a surpirse actually, i really like the car...only think that the car needs, are 3 things to make him look more badass:
- tinted glass
- 21-22'' wheels
- the side skirts in car colors

everything else for my opinion looks great.....

That's fair enough, you are of course free to like it, and I'm sure it will find its market, But that front end, everything forward of either the true, or implied, A-pillar is at odds with anything other than the cheaper end of the Mercedes line-up, and even then, worse. It's front end may be fine, but it's surely not what Mercedes buyers are typically looking for when they buy an S, an E, or a C. It's not so much Mercedes, as it is EQ, and it doesn't surprise me that people that value what a Sonder-Class generally offers aesthetically might be completely turned off by this. I don't think wheel size or window tint is enough to change that personally.

As a side note, It would be ace if you were the forums first owner, and I'm sure we'd all welcome real world experiences of the EQS from an S-Class client.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

@Sonder generally speaking, I agree with an opinion that says Concept cars need to be free to push boundaries, rather than stay within production constraints just to keep forumites pacified, but... even if there's entirely plausible reasons why a concept couldn't be translated directly to reality, it doesn't stop either the finished product, or the concept being judged from an 'absolute' point of view. The production EQS doesn't just fail to deliver based on the concept, it fails to deliver on what people might expect from a brand new, very expensive, cutting edge Mercedes-Benz... it' seems to fail to deliver based on even average expectations. You can defend the discrepancy between concept and production - as I have done many times - but if the production version is worse than other reasonable production benchmarks, that is significantly less defensible.

And the eternal question arises again: Which was finished first: the design of the production EQS or the design of the concept. My money is on the design of the production car. The desiners wanted to show with the concept what they could create if there were not the restrictions for a serial production vehicle.

 

[Sonder]

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[hoffmeister_fan]

"We" often compare a production car to its concept counterpart and are often disappointed with the resulting production version. However, the vast consumer base are not often aware of what the concept looks like. So, for the vast consumer base, I am curious to see how it'll be received. I think "we" are definitely more put in more scrutiny, but how much does that matter for most people?

 

[Mick Briesgau]

i would definitely choose the EQS and not the S, although i had 6x S-Classes in my life.
Reason?
- almost free riding (specially the 1st year)
- fastback doors (i have a dog)
- more futuristic exterior and specially interior
- silence in the cabin
- sportier driving (because better distributed center of gravity of the car)

I dont care for the battery warranty, i would have it 1-3 years, so i would made 20.000 km - 60.000 km

- not quite, but partly true;
- well, that didn’t stop you from buying 6 S class;
- futuristic? That is in the eye of the beholder;
- what makes you think it’s more silence than W223? You know that from a certain speed the loudest noise is road noise, coming from the tires and wind;
- sportier? With a nett weight of circa 2.500 kilo.

But I’m not here to convince you. Wishing you many safe miles in your future EQS ? Especially curious if you’d buy a second one after you have had one for 1-3 years.

 

[Sonder]

made some changes:
bigger wheels and skirts in car color

 

[fortuner]

- not quite, but partly true;
- well, that didn’t stop you from buying 6 S class;
- futuristic? That is in the eye of the beholder;
- what makes you think it’s more silence than W223? You know that from a certain speed the loudest noise is road noise, coming from the tires and wind;
- sportier? With a nett weight of circa 2.500 kilo.

But I’m not here to convince you. Wishing you many safe miles in your future EQS ? Especially curious if you’d buy a second one after you have had one for 1-3 years.

Just adding here from some videos I saw I know the one with Thomas he says it handles better then the S class and in terms of quieter I guess maybe he basing it on like the Standard GLC vs EQC the EQC is Apparently much quieter ...

 

[Sunny]

The claim for 770 km WLTP is absolutely ridiculous and unashamedly idiotic. Even Daimler gives 20-16 kWh/h consumption acc WLTP which translates to 550 -675 km

Yea, the 770 km range claim is fishy and worded very ambiguously .

WLTP test figures -

• WLTP: combined electrical consumption: 20.4-15.7kWh/100 km;
  combined CO2 emissions: 0 g/km

Which even at the lowest consumption of 15.7kwh, translates to - 686 km.

So I am not sure where they are pulling the 770km from.

And that is for the slow as molasses 450+

For 580 -

• WLTP combined electrical consumption: 21.8-17.4 kWh/100 km;
  combined CO2 emissions: 0 g/km

Which again at the the lowest consumption of 17.4 works out to - 620 km

Good, but not the best either.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Yea, the 770 km range claim is fishy and worded very ambiguously .

WLTP test figures -

• WLTP: combined electrical consumption: 20.4-15.7kWh/100 km;
  combined CO2 emissions: 0 g/km

Which even at the lowest consumption of 15.7kwh, translates to - 686 km.

So I am not sure where they are pulling the 770km from.

And that is for the slow as molasses 450+

For 580 -

• WLTP combined electrical consumption: 21.8-17.4 kWh/100 km;
  combined CO2 emissions: 0 g/km

Which again at the the lowest consumption of 17.4 works out to - 620 km

Good, but not the best either.

I wonder what is this combined consumption with 25% difference. With ICE vehicles the diffetence is within 4-5%. The major thing that influences the cosumption and can be changed are the tires. So bigger tires worsen the efficiency with 25%. Unbelievable.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

It baffles me how people continue to compare the EQS design to the Taycan and Audi E tron GT. Even paid motoring journalists! It seems like the only basis required to warrant a comparison is that the vehicle is an EV.

 

[Merc1]

I think that's how it's going to be since everyone is going a different route with design, size etc. There isn't the normal small, med, large sedan hierarchy that we're used to on the ICE side of the house.

M

 

[SKY]

come on guys...now you are a little boring
how many times do we must repeat that?
if you give the production version the same wheels and if you tint the glasses...the production car isnt as far different from the concept anymore
sure...its not the same, but which car is? the concept car is a SHOW car. If the production model had such lower greenhouse, nobody could sit in the rear...
so please...cut the crap and calm down

Damn... Is this post actually real? Can a real person not see the incredible difference between the two pictures?

 

[Matski]

Even paid motoring journalists! It seems like the only basis required to warrant a comparison is that the vehicle is an EV.

'member when BMW's i3 was compared to Tesla's Model S... this BMW fan remembers. Stupid then, stupid now.

 

[Robi777]

It baffles me how people continue to compare the EQS design to the Taycan and Audi E tron GT. Even paid motoring journalists! It seems like the only basis required to warrant a comparison is that the vehicle is an EV.

I think it’s because of the relatively small number of cars in this new segment. Since there are so few large electric cars, especially among german brands, people feel like they are all in the same niche and so they compare them to one another. One day electric cars will fill all of the niches that ICE cars do now and so comparisons like these will eventually stop.