M5 [Official] BMW M5 (F10)

[martinbo]

What an odd crash. The oversteer moment didn't appear that rapid in terms of rotation rate. It appears that the driver didn't correct the slide quickly enough and in the end not enough lock was applied.
Do we know whether a BMW instructor was driving or a customer?

That being said, if I'm not mistaken that particular corner is notorious (and thus features in several Ring crash clips) for sending cars spinning so quite possibly I'm missing something having never driven in a scenario (car + corner) remotely resembling this.

 

[Rainer271]

Do we know whether a BMW instructor was driving or a customer?.

As far as I know the Ring-Taxi will driven only trough racedriver or former racedriver like Sabine Schmitz, Claudia Hürtgen or Harald Grohs.

 

[martinbo]

Thanks R, makes it odder still... a racing driver would've caught that slide.

 

[klier]

In the end Deckhook was right about the traction?

The Ring Taxi is driving there almost every day of every week. A crash is bound to happen every once in a while..

 

[Zafiro]

Thanks R, makes it odder still... a racing driver would've caught that slide.

Shit happens but of course it would never happen to a pro driver like myself!

 

[ACE]

Shit happens but of course it would never happen to a pro driver like myself!

Yes, because you would have:
1. been going a lot slower
2. had traction control on

 

[klier]

Shit happens but of course it would never happen to a pro driver like myself!

You forgot to include your Fiesta ST in that line!

 

[Mars1965]

This one has an opinion:
http://bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/home/amusingamazing/645-analysis-what-made-the-ring-taxi-crash

 

[klier]

^ awesome read, tnx

I don't agree with the whole analysis. Like I said, if you drive there every day, something will happen every now and then.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

^ awesome read, tnx

I don't agree with the whole analysis. Like I said, if you drive there every day, something will happen every now and then.

I think it was a load of unsubstantiated, speculative, swollocks, and seems to be some bizarre pitch to apply for a job as a BMW Ring Taxi driver.


"Looking at the photo above, I think the driver knows it too."

Er, right. You can tell that from a photo?


"BMW, you need local experts with thousands and THOUSANDS of laps of the 'Ring. Not just in racing, not just in testing.But in public driving too. Because public driving is a skill set all on its own.

Your brand, your reputation, your call."

 

[martinbo]

All makes for a fun discussion though...

 

[klier]

"Looking at the photo above, I think the driver knows it too."

Er, right. You can tell that from a photo?

I was thinking the exact same thing. I do think the GT2 probably pushed the M5 driver over it's limit, but that could have happened to any experienced racer really

 

[Zafiro]

Yes, because you would have:
1. been going a lot slower
2. had traction control on

No need to be rude ACE. I'll beat you blindfolded LOL

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I'll beat you blindfolded

Whatever turns you on, but let's stay away from S&M and stick to cars.

 

[Zafiro]

Whatever turns you on, but let's stay away from S&M and stick to cars.

Oh yes babe! kiss and hugs.

 

[mini_cooper4]

I was thinking the exact same thing. I do think the GT2 probably pushed the M5 driver over it's limit, but that could have happened to any experienced racer really

Experienced drivers don't let others set their pace. So I do disagree.

 

[Giannis]

Isn't it possible that the oversteer was due to a loss of traction since the curve was over a crest?

 

[Sunny]

Since we are playing armchair drivers, my take, he was probably trying to entertain the passengers and induce a drift and got too enthusiastic with the right foot. The difference in traction between the surfaces the left and right tires were on also probably facilitated the quick Armco meeting.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Since we are playing armchair drivers, my take, he was probably trying to entertain the passengers and induce a drift and got too enthusiastic with the right foot. The difference in traction between the surfaces the left and right tires were on also probably facilitated the quick Armco meeting.

I agree with Sunny. It seemed like the driver started the drift rather late into the corner (actually, it was on exit).

 

[klier]

Experienced drivers don't let others set their pace. So I do disagree.

You can get caught in the moment or whatever they call that. You know...we're all humans, you off all people will agree with that.

Since we are playing armchair drivers [...]

Hahaha, for real!!