iX [Official] BMW iX (i20) [2021-

[Matski]

Apparently the sticker on the rear window says otherwise.

Coolio. Imma go stick that sticker on my E90.. then it'll be self driving, right? This is what you are saying, right? It has a sticker, so it must be self driving, right?

The QR code takes you to a bunch of legal stuff regards data protection because the car's recording video and audio - that's what the sticker means, hence the sticker has a camera on it - if you want to assume that sticker means the car was doing anything above Level 2 autonomy at the time, that's up to you - for now at least it doesn't appear that there's any evidence that's the case.

18 month old baby should not be in a test vehicle regardless. Hope everyone is okay.

Yeah, I could tell how much you cared by the fact you didn't even post the story, just a (potentially) misleading headline and image.

 

[BMW4ever]

Coolio. Imma go stick that sticker on my E90.. then it'll be self driving, right? This is what you are saying, right? It has a sticker, so it must be self driving, right?

The QR code takes you to a bunch of legal stuff regards data protection because the car's recording video and audio - that's what the sticker means, hence the sticker has a camera on it - if you want to assume that sticker means the car was doing anything above Level 2 autonomy at the time, that's up to you - for now at least it doesn't appear that there's any evidence that's the case.



Yeah, I could tell how much you cared by the fact you didn't even post the story, just a (potentially) misleading headline and image.

why the aggression?

Whatever happens, it's not good for BMW. If it's just level 2, it's almost certainly the case the driver was speeding, massively, probably showing off, 5-up, in his enormously heavy and powerful, probably 50 or M60 iX - my money's on an M60.

If it was Level 3, and it went beserk, ping-ponging from car to car, almost negative vehicle avoidance, BMW itself is in trouble.

The whole EV thing is surreal/unreal - almost zero noise, slot car-like acceleration, of a car weighing 3 (short) tons - basically a commercial goods vehicle - so no real, usual sensation of speed, danger.

These cars suit the game-playing generation, like test drivers in their 30s, who may have all the qualifications, and supposedly a bit of a wheelman, but in reality, way out of their depth, handling such heavy, powerful objects, with little or no clue to the consequences, and the harm, misery, and devastation they can cause, when 'Game Over' literally happens - a seriously injured small child, and a dead 33 year old, and 7 other seriously injured, one a 70 yr old lady.

Clown-world - high-powered, near-silent, cocooned EVs, no gears, no revs building etc, egged on by warp, plaid speed etc nonsense of clearly mental-issues man-children like Musk, meets the virtual world of gamers and nerds who can 'drive' computers.

 

[Matski]

Whatever happens, it's not good for BMW. If it's just level 2, it's almost certainly the case the driver was speeding, massively, probably showing off, 5-up, in his enormously heavy and powerful, probably 50 or M60 iX - my money's on an M60.

Yup, not good, certainly not for those involved. My money is not on it being an M60 because the car isn't wearing M-Sport of even sport front/rear bumpers.

If it was Level 3, and it went beserk, ping-ponging from car to car, almost negative vehicle avoidance, BMW itself is in trouble.

"If", "it went beserk", "almost negative vehicle avoidance", "almost as if the iX was actively seeking the cars, rather than avoidance"... boy, really going for that melodramatic narrative aren't you!

The iX appears to have failed to stay in its lane on a bend (I'm assuming it ploughed wide), clipped one car as it did so (a Citroen - which then hit another car), and ended up in a head on collision with the Mercedes van. A tragic accident (that could be driver error, or vehicle failure), but I'm sure not an uncommon scenario - Gene Simmons hasn't sent the killer toasters after us yet.

 

[kiki voinea]

I saw the news on TV today , and it looked like the accident was on a slight curve

The car was a test car. BMW came with a statement , but nothing special.

For those who driven any level 2 AP , knows that on slight bends , auto-steering fails often

The car has no fault.

 

[Cashmere]

Coolio. Imma go stick that sticker on my E90.. then it'll be self driving, right? This is what you are saying, right? It has a sticker, so it must be self driving, right?

The QR code takes you to a bunch of legal stuff regards data protection because the car's recording video and audio - that's what the sticker means, hence the sticker has a camera on it - if you want to assume that sticker means the car was doing anything above Level 2 autonomy at the time, that's up to you - for now at least it doesn't appear that there's any evidence that's the case.



Yeah, I could tell how much you cared by the fact you didn't even post the story, just a (potentially) misleading headline and image.

Why the aggression? I’m so happy for you and your E90 - good on ya ol chap but this has nothing to do with your car. The vehicle in question is a BMW company car which clearly has stickers saying it’s a test vehicle and has ADAS hardware on it. Why do you have to be so obtuse?

lol posted a misleading image/headline - what are you on about? I think you’re getting too much into your own head again.

 

[SCOTT27]

The car will be evaluated by independent investigators assigned with the authorities. And like other investigations not just with BMW but other manufacturers. BMW will cooperate fully.

BMW test cars can be signed out by employees especially when they are testing new models or evaluating new technologies. Obviously someone took their eighteen month child out in the car for a trip or errand.

 

[BMW4ever]

The car will be evaluated by independent investigators assigned with the authorities. And like other investigations not just with BMW but other manufacturers. BMW will cooperate fully.

BMW test cars can be signed out by employees especially when they are testing new models or evaluating new technologies. Obviously someone took their eighteen month child out in the car for a trip or errand.

and three other adults.

Just saying, nothing in the light of a person dying and an infant with severe injuries, but when do we blow the whistle on these behemoths. (EU)Kerbweight officially of this likely M60 is almost 2.7 tonnes, but probably 100-200 kg more in reality, options, a bit of fibbing, and another 3 adults, some gear, so easily over 3 tonnes, not far off the EU/UK 'MAM', maximum allowed mass.

It's one thing for a Luton van back in the day to wheeze to 60 mph, in a minute or more, with a GVW of 3.5t, but these things are projectiles. Instead of clowns calling for licence plates on bicycles, in UK, how about a test to see if a person has the requisite reaction times, if getting on in age - the typical buyer - or mental stability if a gamer child in his 20s/30s.

Same goes for the likes of the new Range Rover/RRSport with a real near 700hp BMW V8 - real-world kerbweight 2.7-2.8t.

 

[Matski]

Why the aggression?

What aggression? If you don't like to be challenged, make more effort to accurately portray the situation.

I’m so happy for you and your E90 - good on ya ol chap but this has nothing to do with your car. The vehicle in question is a BMW company car which clearly has stickers saying it’s a test vehicle and has ADAS hardware on it. Why do you have to be so obtuse?

lol posted a misleading image/headline - what are you on about?

As can be seen from responses in this thread, including the words "self driving test vehicle" in the statement "BMWs self driving test vehicle kills 1 and 8 seriously injured" leads people to believe that it crashed because it was a self driving test vehicle, which appears at this stage to not be the case - and the presence of a sticker that provides a legal disclaimer around recording video and audio doesn't prove it was the case. I cannot make this any more obvious for you.

You chose not to provide any context or further information (nor a link, nor even you're customary massive-screen-shot-from-your-phone-with-some-highlighted-text-on-it) for the statement you wanted to make, which tells to me, you didn't want people to form any other conclusion that BMW's self driving system kills - your motivation for all that is fairly blatant, and it's certainly not because you skeptical of autonomous driving, and you're certainly not reporting even a fraction of RTI's involving vehicles fitted with lane assist.

I think you’re getting too much into your own head again.

you won't appreciate the irony here.

 

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[Frankie G]

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[wgerman]

Just came from a ride and drive and test drove the IX.

1. Maybe I am too old, but push button to open the doors is bit weird, sure muscle memory will get use to it.

2. Hope the steering wheels expands across lineup, its odd looking yes but fits in your hands beautifully.

3. Acceleration is of course strong with a pleasant whirring noise.

4. I think it was a whirring noise, but I had the Awesome Bowers and Wilkins (B&W) sound system turned up. I think there is bass exciters in the seats, I could feel the bass too well at low volume.

5. Styling may not be graceful but will wear well over its 7 year or so life.

6. The crystal like looking buttons take some getting used too. There is a reason black buttons have been used for the last 100 years.

7. Love the HUD, very sharp, though I did not under the wings on either side of the speed number. A sharp looking HUD is not a given, see the Kia EV6's HUD.

8. Don't get BMW's fascination with using black on the sills and front bumper. Guess they are trying to hide the mass, just get it in black and put PPF on it and call it a day.

9. The X5 EV seems redundant.

 

[wgerman]

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Spot on summation. The crystal like buttons do take some getting use too. I just keep staring at the various crystal like buttons. I know it sounds weird. And I am not sure its more luxurious, its just different.

 

[Swiss_ZH]

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Impressive

 

[Tourbillon]

"Tested: 2023 BMW iX M60 Is an EV That Delivers Power and Exclusivity

BMW's range-topping EV SUV isn't easy on the eyes, but it excels everywhere else."

Tested: 2023 BMW iX M60 Is an EV That Delivers Power and Exclusivity

BMW's range-topping EV SUV isn't easy on the eyes, but it excels everywhere else.

www.caranddriver.com

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[Merc1]

Germans are doing it again, now with EVs. Conservative range estimates so that real world range will be better.

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[dalab]

A lot of people saying that the start-ups are this and that the other and that they are better than everyone...........,the reality is very different and they charge almost $100,000 for a poorly developed car...

2023 BMW iX M60 vs. 2022 Rivian R1S Launch Edition

"Building cars is complex, and the Rivian is still monumentally impressive. Until you get to the driving, that is. On a challenging road, the R1S is a buffet of ride and handling undesirables: float, front-to-rear porpoising, head toss, plus a lot of tire-impact noise."

The BMW went 290 miles, impressively exceeding its 274-mile EPA figure, while the Rivian did 230 miles, far short of its 316-mile window-sticker number.

Although the iX is less original, its nailing of the dynamic fundamentals, combined with stellar refinement and efficiency, makes it the ultimate expression of the cutting-edge electric SUV.

2023 BMW iX M60 vs. 2022 Rivian R1S Launch Edition

These six-figure electric SUVs are the latest in mega-powerful peacocking.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[kiki voinea]

Today as I went to the launch of the new 7 , I sat in a few iX in the showroom ( different configs )

I will keep my position : It's ugly as hell. But this is debatable , of course...

But the rear seat space is pretty big. So that's a big plus . Also the rear bench is comfy and big .

What I did not like and understand : Why is the trunk designed like that. It's so poor use of space.The space behind those lights it's absolutely huge and not used at all

 

[martinbo]

Rivian can go hardcore off-roading though where iX can barely cope with a dirt road. So obviously there's going to be distinct difference in ride & handling characteristics.