5 Series (G30/G31/G38) [Official] BMW 5-Series (G30)

[ateekt]

Such a beautiful car & a well-executed design! It sure resembles a 7er & I think it's a good thing!

IMO, it's the closet a 5er ever got to the legendary E39 in looks. I hope it performs equally too.

 

[Der Hofmeister]

After seeing the official pics and reading the details about the techinical breakthroughs it brings, the new BMW 5er is simply wonderful and looks set to become (again) the leader of its class. I do like this daring approach BMW has, with a sophisticated design and an overall complex philosophy, packed with intelligent technology and the best powertrain on the market.

They will be successful, nonetheless. For the E-Class, it is already a lost battle, as I have said earlier this year. From the W124 to nowadays, Mercedes-Benz has never again managed to offer a competent opponent to the 5er.

 

[Monster]

I am genuinely surprised by how well the double shoulder line worked on the car, it is nice subtle on darker colored cars, and it stands out just enough on the silver colored cars. The surface treatment is the most complex and well resolved on a mass production sedan. Also the front end design is the best interpretation of the 3D grill with adjoining headlights

I can't really tell from the photos but does the car have a slight reverse rake on the rear end?

As for the interior, I have already mention my dislike for certain trim pieces. I will now add one more complaint, what is with those hideous row of black buttons placed right near the middle of the front door panel?

 

[Ali8Asad]

Boooom!!!

 

[TheRadBrad]

Guys - when do you think the configurator on the german Webpage will be online - before November?

 

[Gianclaudio]

I'm too drunk at this moment to post an extensive opinion, so I'll just say I really, really like it. Very sharp, well proportioned and without the ridiculous headlight's detailing of their German rivals.

To use a metaphor, I see it as a perfectly tailored suit.

 

[Zafiro]

Predictable but classic design from BMW. Current 5er has aged very well and I'm sure the new 5er will do the same. Anyone saying this is an ulgy car is either a demented fanboy or the jelous type.
The new 5er is up there with the new E-class, no doubt.
Pictures isn't the same as seeing the car in the flesh, can't wait to see the 5er on the streets.
Now, let's hope it drives as well as it looks and fixed steering feel.

 

[Sovereign]

A good looking car indeed inside and outside, this new BMW is. The side profile is very sharp but the standard front bumper just doesn't suits the car's personality and dare I say it that it is as ugly as it is on the 7 series. The new standard front bumper design gives me the impression of a man smiling without front teeth. The car must be opted with the M package bumpers just like the last 5 series.

Comparing the new 5 with the last one, I liked the last 5 series a lot more from the front. I am not a big fan of these " a mile long" integrated headlamps with the grille. They make the front look a bit lousy. The last model looked much more aggressive at front like a BMW should look like. It was the best design in its class. The side and the rear treatment is superior on the new 5. I also liked the old interior better especially the screen that was integrated better in the dash IMO. The rest of the interior is quite similar and I am sure the detailing must look better on the new one.

 

[Wunderkind]

I will now add one more complaint, what is with those hideous row of black buttons placed right near the middle of the front door panel?

I think those are seat adjustment memory setting button (1-2-3-M).

 

[Monster]

I think those are seat adjustment memory setting button (1-2-3-M).

They really could have place them, or present them a bit better, because right now they look like after thoughts.

 

[Wunderkind]

They really could have place them, or present them a bit better, because right now they look like after thoughts.

that's exactly what I thought too.

 

[mdartisian]

If you squint, you can see how well resolved the car is in this picture. Fantastic proportions on this Bimmer.

 

[ThroughandThrough]

Something about the profile doesn't sit well with me. Nor the rear, which looks too Asian for my taste.

Infiniti's Q50, which I dislike, is too similar to the G30.

The interior is appealing, however. The materials look higher quality than the F11's

 

[Wunderkind]

^ Yes, the side profile and the rear are very fuzzy.

The only thing that I have issue with is the rear-end which reminds me of the 2-series

 

[martinbo]

Quite simply, this new 5er epitomises everything that draws me to BMW sedans and, at the same time, distances me from other makers' sedan designs.
The proportions, the ratios of glasshouse and wheel size to sheetmetal, the surfacing... That character line that extends from the Hoff-kink, the surface it forms and the way it intersects with the swage-line (that's more of a bone-line) is just magnificent and warrants gratuitous use of this emoticon:

The silhouette is just splendid, the rear deck is perfect for a sedan and, of course, those front wheels are spot-on in the right place. Love that take on the hockey-stick theme too...

The interior - again - everything I seek in a 21st century cabin: the complete antithesis of baroque-ness.

I can see myself owning one - a 530d would be a perfect car for business use.

 

[domleo999]

The M550i - still using the 4.4 V8! IMO- a lot more desirable than the 3.0 E43 and the future 3.0 S6.

So I'm guessing diesel variants get the circular exhausts?

 

[Der Hofmeister]

Sheer beauty is in small details. The way BMW Individual is signaled onto the new 5er is simply mindblowing. It is a cohesive continuation after the example seen on the 7er.

BMW Individual alloy wheel on the new BMW 540i M Sport G30

BMW 7er Individual G12

 

[hovabongZA]

After seeing the official pics and reading the details about the techinical breakthroughs it brings, the new BMW 5er is simply wonderful and looks set to become (again) the leader of its class. I do like this daring approach BMW has, with a sophisticated design and an overall complex philosophy, packed with intelligent technology and the best powertrain on the market.

They will be successful, nonetheless. For the E-Class, it is already a lost battle, as I have said earlier this year. From the W124 to nowadays, Mercedes-Benz has never again managed to offer a competent opponent to the 5er.

Agreed , the E class is kind of what the 7er is to the S class is its always playing second fiddle.

 

[hovabongZA]

The M550i - still using the 4.4 V8! IMO- a lot more desirable than the 3.0 E43 future 3.0 S6.

So I'm guessing diesel variants get the circular exhausts?

We live in a world where BMW now has bigger engines than MB. 540i xDrive vs E43 AMG ...M550i xDrive vs E63 AMG non S.
Half bred M cars are just as good as full bred AMG models.

 

[martinbo]

So, officially, no carbon core as per creative sources.

Tsk, tsk...

Although it does without the more expensive carbonfibre components used by its larger sibling, BMW claims the new structure and other weight-saving measures, including a lighter wiring loom, have resulted in a reduction in kerb weight of up to 100kg, depending on the model. That’s not all, though. CLAR also provides the new 5 Series with significant increase in torsional rigidity and the basis for a completely new suspension philosophy.

Anyhoo... here's some encourage snippets from Autocar's pre-production drive: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/5-series/first-drives/2017-bmw-5-series-530d-xdrive-review

The new steering system is allied to completely reworked double wishbone front suspension that uses a greater number of aluminium components for a reduction in unsprung weight. Due to its inherent design and the fact that its lower arms are largely freed from supporting any lateral forces, BMW says the new set-up provides a more integrated solution for a sportier drive.

For the first time, BMW will offer the 5 Series with all-wheel drive in combination with sports suspension and a 10mm reduction in ride height. You’ll also be able to order the new car with a combination of xDrive and BMW’s active four-wheel steering. Both are aimed at further elevating the 5 Series' reputation for dynamic excellence despite its continued increase in size.

... And what's it like to drive?

What is clear is the new model has progressed in a number of key areas. The various changes BMW has brought to the chassis certainly help to lift the 5 Series' game in the dynamics department. It’s now a more rounded car than ever before – one with a mesmerising range of abilities with the right options.

The newly developed speed-sensitive system is an advance on that of the outgoing model, delivering greater feel around the straight-ahead, more consistent weighting in the first half a turn of lock and suppressing kickback with greater authority on lumpy surfaces. By any standards, this is first-rate steering, endowing the new BMW with great precision, feel and dependability. There’s an underlying calmness to its operation that impressed us greatly during our first drive.

There’s a superb feeling of balance and fluidity about the new BMW, too. The consistency and conviction of its actions provide it with great poise and a wonderfully secure feeling when hustled along. You can confidently thread the new 5 Series down a winding back road without any qualms about its ability to soak up lateral forces and keep gripping hard even at very high speeds. It is very fleet in its responses while at the same time delivering an engaging exactness to your inputs in rear-wheel drive guise. A new generation of dampers featuring altered valves and faster-acting software also ensure roll angles are kept well in check even on the standard suspension, which provides continuously variable properties.

The rear-biased apportioning of power of the xDrive system keeps the entertainment factor high while added to the overall feeling of security, especially on damp and undulating roads. While the apportioning of drive to both the front and rear wheels previously robbed the steering of some of its steering sensitivity, you can now combine xDrive with the four-wheel steering. Together, they provide a compelling combination of instant steering response and great traction, making for a deeply impressive car with true sporting handling characteristics.

And the ride? It’s safe to say this is the best-riding 5 Series yet. The new chassis imbues it with a more cosseting and controlled feel over any given road than its predecessor. It is very accomplished, whether coping with high-frequency bumps around town or more undulating topography at higher speeds out on the open road. It’s quiet, too. Indeed, tyre roar is very well suppressed, indicating it will be a brilliant motorway cruiser.

The verdict [thus far]

It’s too early to say just how the new 5 Series really compares with the executive class competition. While we’re now familiar with many of the changes made to its chassis, there’s still a lot of crucial information about the new BMW to come before we can confidently deliver a binding conclusion.

Based on our brief dynamic assessment, though, it appears BMW has succeeded in raising the already fine dynamic qualities of the 5 Series. The new model may be larger and more extensively equipped than its predecessor, but the adoption of a new lightweight platform and a number of significant chassis developments provide it with outstanding agility and the sort of handling flair to worry the competition.

Together, this results in a broader range of abilities than we’ve seen from any previous 5 Series model. Still, we’ll need more time to say whether it is a better proposition than the latest Mercedes-Benz E-Class, the undisputed leader in the class right now.

Of course, the biggest news out of the above article? They only drop the J-bomb... once.