5 Series [Official] BMW 5-Series (G30)


The BMW 5 Series is an executive car manufactured and marketed by BMW since 1972. The car is sold as either a sedan or, since 1991, a station wagon (marketed as "Touring"). A 5-door fastback (marketed as "Gran Turismo") was sold between 2009 and 2017. Each successive generation has been given an internal G-code designation since 2017. Previously, a F-code designation was used between 2010 and 2016, while an E-code designation was used between 1972 and 2010. These are used to distinguish each model and generation from each other.
Oh,take it easy man,it's not your baby it's just a product.If you have eyes you do see those rearlights are pretty much the same,let alone the upper lines are exactly the same.
I assure you, I take no exception on behalf of BMW - I really don't care what people think of the product.

What I am addressing, as a staff member of this site, is that lack of objective quality in your altogether random observation which spoils this official thread. And that's a totally different thing.
 
Oh,take it easy man,it's not your baby it's just a product.If you have eyes you do see those rearlights are pretty much the same,let alone the upper lines are exactly the same.

To me the new 5er rear ligths looks more like previous 5er. Or do you think I'm blind? ;)
 
And I counter your opinion with my own to say that this is the best looking sedan in the segment. :p
But great to hear from you all the same.

hey martin good to c you too.

Man how do I explain this, It makes me feel BMW is cutting corners ... I like the "keep it in the family" thing but BMW, Audi and even MB to some extent have gone too far with it I think. I mean when we will look at this era of automobile history, you can look at one car from any german manufacturer and you've seen the whole range. Really shame IMO to be a talented designer with such limited output.

The weird thing is that i feel they spent more time designing the lower tier models ...
 
I knew the exterior was going to be the best in the segment , but the interior has surprised me the most it's on par with the E class while being more clean cut and driver focused , unmistakenly BMW.
 
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I'm quite surprised how well the double shoulderline is received in here. Sculptured surfaces are a weak spot of mine, and the G30 is imo an innovative example of what sophisticated surfaces can do. However, I'm still a little disappointed. Obviously, I knew an earlier approach that did not make it into production. See the pics to get my point: in these sketches, the point where the surface changes from concave to convex is somewhere in the backdoor (i.e. at the edge between front- and backdoor, it's still concave). In the series production car, the twist is located somewhere in the frontdoor (which under some lighting conditions gives the silhouette a slightly "wrung-out" feel). Probably, the solution in the sketches made broad rear wheelarches too difficult or too vulgar, or it was just too difficult to produce ... but I might have found that the more elegant solution.
Very generally, I find the 5er very different from its predecessor and from the G11. Kidneys, headlights, surfaces, silhouette, boot all introduce crucially new elements and are bot just shrunked one class ... what else could be expected?
 
Something about the profile doesn't sit well with me. Nor the rear, which looks too Asian for my taste.

Infiniti's Q50, which I dislike, is too similar to the G30.

The interior is appealing, however. The materials look higher quality than the F11's

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if you look at the outline of the Infinity you will see they 100% copied the F11.
 
hey martin good to c you too.

Man how do I explain this, It makes me feel BMW is cutting corners ... I like the "keep it in the family" thing but BMW, Audi and even MB to some extent have gone too far with it I think. I mean when we will look at this era of automobile history, you can look at one car from any german manufacturer and you've seen the whole range. Really shame IMO to be a talented designer with such limited output.

The weird thing is that i feel they spent more time designing the lower tier models ...

Love your opinion as always man. I hear you - when it comes to the executive sedan segments - there is a great deal of design homogeneity across the different classes coupled with a safe styling approach. If anything, we see all three of the prime German makers, in a state of "sausage-lengths" to the point that (and I won't call it conservative but, rather, safe) not upsetting the apple cart appears to be the order of the day.

Personally, if I was an automotive strategist, I would agree with this approach whereby the scope for more adventurous design is earmarked for crossover and niche model lines whilst playing it safe in the conventional segments. This is how I see it - particularly with the premium sedan segments.
 
Okay, it does look better than I feared from the spy shots and rendered, and it's not bad. I'm not going to lie though, I don't think it's convincingly great.

The headlights are too 'soft', the grille isn't bad - though I prefer slimmer chrome accents on the grilles. The line across the headlights and grille reminds me a lot of the i8, which is nice. Both the hockey stick treatment and the double shoulder line look alright, but I think they would be better had they been exaggerated more - I'm guessing at some stage they were toned down.

M-Performance one SCOTT posted above looks great though, good colour choice for this car I think.

Overall it's a 7/10 from me, which is as good as anything else in this class.

I would add, that having seen this design language now on two saloon cars, I'm warming a little more to the G11/12 as well.
 
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I'm quite surprised how well the double shoulderline is received in here. Sculptured surfaces are a weak spot of mine, and the G30 is imo an innovative example of what sophisticated surfaces can do. However, I'm still a little disappointed. Obviously, I knew an earlier approach that did not make it into production. See the pics to get my point: in these sketches, the point where the surface changes from concave to convex is somewhere in the backdoor (i.e. at the edge between front- and backdoor, it's still concave). In the series production car, the twist is located somewhere in the frontdoor (which under some lighting conditions gives the silhouette a slightly "wrung-out" feel). Probably, the solution in the sketches made broad rear wheelarches too difficult or too vulgar, or it was just too difficult to produce ... but I might have found that the more elegant solution.
Very generally, I find the 5er very different from its predecessor and from the G11. Kidneys, headlights, surfaces, silhouette, boot all introduce crucially new elements and are bot just shrunked one class ... what else could be expected?

It's a splendid observation Busty and an informative one too. To this amateur observer, whilst the artwork depicts a more dynamic transition from concave to convex surfacing, my tiny mind says that (whilst the intention was carried over) the translation to production was simply not feasible. This is due to the metallic beading in the artwork, surrounding the side DLO, conveniently (and implausibly in real life) morphing into paintwork. That's my practical, though possibly rudimentary, opinion at least.
 
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I like it....
Doesn't blow my mind or anything, but I genuinely believe it's nice. Let's hope that this period of visual honeymoon lasts longer with the 5er than it has with the 7er (which I still like, but no longer stirs any emotions for me; guess I got too used to its looks?)
 
The E60 really revolutionised the design
Interesting point - I agree. I have read numerous pieces of text where acknowledged design experts have lauded the E60 for what it brought from an exterior design perspective.
And, I do recognise the significance of some of the details such as the introduction of complex, "flame" surfaces. But, as necessary as the E60's revolution was, for me it was too much of a revolution over one of my favourite BMW sedans of all - the safe yet still progressive (and lovely!) E39. To my mind, the E39 is BMW's W124.
 

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