3 Series (G20) [Official] BMW 3 Series (G20)

[martinbo]

Dravits Gray's wet concrete look looks much better on the stubbier 3er versus the 8er.



I think you were unconvinced by the uni-grille in pics, or at found it questionable, what was your take of it in the metal? (Well, it's probably plastic, but you get the idea.)

Mate, I remain opposed to the cost-cutting thing that is the uni-grille. Whilst the overall effect is good, it could've been better when executed as the traditional, separated kidney motif.

 

[Dawid21]

Arnold's BMW (@iron_bmw) • Instagram photos and videos

 

[martinbo]

^ Car must've just come from a heavy test drive - look how much it's sweating!

 

[Merc1]

That blue is beautiful in that pic.

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[gmag]

Arnold's BMW (@iron_bmw) • Instagram photos and videos

Anybody know what color this is? Is it Mediterranean blue metallic or Tanzanite blue II?

 

[Dawid21]

This color is great for 3-series.

 

[klier]

Anybody know what color this is? Is it Mediterranean blue metallic or Tanzanite blue II?

Portimao seems to be a bit lighter in color, so this must be Mediterrarean because there is nothing else right now in terms of blue.

This color is great for 3-series.

That's Portimao. Great color indeed, a perfect fit for a BMW.

Mate, I remain opposed to the cost-cutting thing that is the uni-grille.

It smoothens out the front and gets rid of the hood shutlines altogether, but cost cutting I fail to see here? What am I missing Martin?

 

[Merc1]

When do we start seeing the M340i?

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[Merc1]

Apparently not long. Asketh and recieveith:

Yes, I said 382 horses. Just as impressive as the chassis dynamics is the retuned 3.0-liter twin-scroll single-turbo inline-six, which punches 369 lb-ft. (The outgoing version of the engine makes 320 hp and 332 lb-ft.) That translates to a claimed 0-60 time of 4.2 seconds when run through the eight-speed ZF Steptronic automatic. Sadly, no stick shift will come to America.

A hot car is only as good as the brakes that slow it down, and the 13.7-inch discs and four-piston calipers in front and 13.6-inch discs with single-piston calipers at the rear are firm and sturdy.

Priced at $54,995, the M340i XDrive is not the screaming performance deal of the Genesis G70 3.3T, which is a solid 10 grand less. But if I were wailing around Portimao in a race for pink slips, my gut (and buttocks) say the BMW's suspension, brakes, and AWD system would carry the day.

Under pressure from zippy rivals like the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, BMW knows it needs to win back the hearts of enthusiast compact sedan drivers. Until the next M3 arrives, the M340i goes a long way toward achieving that goal.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/bmw/3-series/2020/2020-bmw-m340i-xdrive-prototype-review/


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[fuhro]

First german Comparison Test in today's AMS:

 

[hovabongZA]

First german Comparison Test in today's AMS:

Not happy with this test. The 3er is heavier than the C class, the C is faster , has better steering and the quality of the C is better as well? I'm disappointed, will have to see other tests.

 

[Frankie G]

First german Comparison Test in today's AMS:

I was not expecting the 3 series to be heavier (although not by much) than the C class. Also interesting to note that given the space, the C 300 covers ground quicker above 100 mph. Was this the case against the equivalent F30???

 

[Matski]

Not happy with this test. The 3er is heavier than the C class, the C is faster , has better steering and the quality of the C is better as well? I'm disappointed, will have to see other tests.

Don't sweat it. One of the biggest margins of victory in any category for the Mercedes is Price... it gets a load of points for being cheaper....

.. and since we keep getting told, over and over by a wide spectrum of members that BMW's only sell with big discounts, it renders the Merc's advantage irrelevant

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Don't sweat it. One of the biggest margins of victory in any category for the Mercedes is Price... it gets a load of points for being cheaper....

.. and since we keep getting told, over and over by a wide spectrum of members that BMW's only sell with big discounts, it renders the Merc's advantage irrelevant

Yeesh...why is the Mercedes so much cheaper. Or is this new 3 just expensive?

The margin on the price appears to be only 2 points from what I can understand of the test, so very little.

There doesn't seem to be much separating these two and it's a testament to what MB has done with the FL to resolve the cars weaknesses. That said, the BMW is undoubtedly the class 3enchmark overall (sorry couldnt help myslef, but maybe not by the margin we were expecting.

Now more than ever taste or brand loyalty will probably play a big part in the purchase decision.

But it's early days. I'm sure we will see some tests where the 3 gives the C and A4 a thorough walloping.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Great result by BMW, having in mind the history of AMuS, the fact that it is from Stuttgart and its long time cheaf editor was the boss of the MB sport department.

 

[hovabongZA]

Great result by BMW, having in mind the history of AMuS, the fact that it is from Stuttgart and its long time cheaf editor was the boss of the MB sport department.

That is interesting , not the first time I've heard that lets see what the other German magazines will do. The Autoexpress comparison was quite convincing the 3er completely dominating the C.

 

[manuelf]

Wow! The G20 is really heavy. Did not expect that!
1619 kg is the weight of the current M4 with DCT!
But the M4 has 6 cyl. and 10 fold massive cooling and Active rear diff and much stiffer chassis with lots of enforcements (which add weight).
How is that possible?

 

[GCfan]

Autobild...

 

[manuelf]

Ok ... had a second thought about the weight issue ... in my comparison with M4 above, I did ignore, that the weight was without OPF, which the G20 has for sure ... I know that OPFs do add substantial weight, but I do not have exact data...

 

[Matski]

The margin on the price appears to be only 2 points from what I can understand of the test, so very little.

I was of course speaking slightly tongue in cheek, but what I'd referred to is the 6 points the Merc gains though 'Grundpreis'. I rarely bother looking at the price lists so I'm not sure why the descrepency is that big unless there's a gulf of difference in the options on the test cars.