Artura [Official] 2021 McLaren Artura

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[KiwiRob]

Never said this. They just won't offer a warranty longer than the required by the regulations. In Europe it is two years.

In Norway consumer law says 5 years. Manufacturers all give 5 years, Hyundai and Kia for a time offered 7 but it's back to5.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

In Norway consumer law says 5 years. Manufacturers all give 5 years, Hyundai and Kia for a time offered 7 but it's back to5.

But the manufacturers can compensate this with higher prices of the cars. Every manufacturer knows exacly how much each additional year costs and just adds it to the price. When the conditions are the same for everybody the longer warranty is not a problem.

 

[KiwiRob]

But the manufacturers can compensate this with higher prices of the cars. Every manufacturer knows exacly how much each additional year costs and just adds it to the price. When the conditions are the same for everybody the longer warranty is not a problem.

If you removed the one off purchase tax cars in Norway aren't any more expensive than cars in other European countries.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

If you removed the one off purchase tax cars in Norway aren't any more expensive than cars in other European countries.

Can you give us some price without the taxes, so that we can compare it to a German price without the 19% VAT.

 

[Laurent T]

I am surprised still no test drive for the Artura. I thought it was planned for May ?

 

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[martinbo]

From the (solely) online footage I've heard so far, I figure that the 296 sounds somewhat better. That reminds me, shouldn't we be having a good old-fashioned shoot-out in the Internal Combustion section between these two?

 

[Porsche Guy]

From the (solely) online footage I've heard so far, I figure that the 296 sounds somewhat better. That reminds me, shouldn't we be having a good old-fashioned shoot-out in the Internal Combustion section between these two?

It will definitely happen.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

In a way I feel bad for the folks in McLaren. The 296 pretty stole any thunder the Artura had.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Eh, idk. I think the Artura looks brilliant.

 

[Laurent T]

In a way I feel bad for the folks in McLaren. The 296 pretty stole any thunder the Artura had.

Agree... on the other hand, McLaren had a chance to "establish" the Artura before by handing it over to the press (it's been presented a long time ago now), yet they didn't. Problems ?

 

[WBarnes]

In a way I feel bad for the folks in McLaren. The 296 pretty stole any thunder the Artura had.

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

 

[Bridster]

In a way I feel bad for the folks in McLaren. The 296 pretty stole any thunder the Artura had.

I am not really sure that's true. The Artura is a replacement for the 570S and is gonna be a fair bit cheaper than the Ferrari. Also I think the Artura is a lot better looking and better designed as well. We'll see how they drive but Ferrari haven't produced a car that drove better than any Mclaren since the 458, so I wouldn't bet on Ferrari pulling ahead there. Apart from the usual reasons (wanting to own a Ferrari), objectively, I don't see why you would go for the 296 instead of the Artura. Yeah, slightly faster in a straight line - but since you can just buy an electric sedan that's faster than either, that fact is becoming less relevant by the second.

That said, a new mid engined Ferrari will probably always produce more excitement than a new entry level Mclaren - and Mclaren aren't known to produce the most exciting and passionate cars ever anyway - so there is an argument to be had there. Still, even if that is true, the arguments that because of the 296 - which is positioned higher than the Artura anyway - the car is dead on arrival, are rather missing the mark.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I am not really sure that's true. The Artura is a replacement for the 570S and is gonna be a fair bit cheaper than the Ferrari. Also I think the Artura is a lot better looking and better designed as well. We'll see how they drive but Ferrari haven't produced a car that drove better than any Mclaren since the 458, so I wouldn't bet on Ferrari pulling ahead there. Apart from the usual reasons (wanting to own a Ferrari), objectively, I don't see why you would go for the 296 instead of the Artura. Yeah, slightly faster in a straight line - but since you can just buy an electric sedan that's faster than either, that fact is becoming less relevant by the second.

That said, a new mid engined Ferrari will probably always produce more excitement than a new entry level Mclaren - and Mclaren aren't known to produce the most exciting and passionate cars ever anyway - so there is an argument to be had there. Still, even if that is true, the arguments that because of the 296 - which is positioned higher than the Artura anyway - the car is dead on arrival, are rather missing the mark.

The way it's shaping up, you'll be able to get a nice optioned Artura in the US for about $260/270k. A similarly specc'd 296 is going to cost $400-420k. That's before taxes and that's a lot. Plus, Artura deliveries will occur starting late this year or early next year. 296 deliveries not until end of 22 beginning of 23. Or so I'm told.

 

[Laurent T]

Anybody knows what's going on with this car ? Still no press drive. I thought it was expected to occur in Spring. Again the semiconductors effect (maybe a small manufacturer like McLaren would be more severily hit by this) ?

 

[Centurion]

Anybody knows what's going on with this car ? Still no press drive. I thought it was expected to occur in Spring. Again the semiconductors effect (maybe a small manufacturer like McLaren would be more severily hit by this) ?

Excellent point. I just had a peek at the first page of this thread and the car was unveiled in February!

 

[TopspeedPT]

On McLarenLife there's a user saying that he recieved an invite from McLaren to test drive a Artura in mid-November. USA.

Maybe we will see reviews this year.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I have nothing from Woking on the subject, but I've heard two things from my discussions with dealer relationships and top tier Mclaren customers.

1. Getting Artura right is critical and complicated. They're going to take their time
2. Supply chain issues are going to hit the company and delay Artura and 765LT Spyder

All in all, seeing this car in Feb and getting deliveries the same year is great. Ferrari shoes the 296 around then and those deliveries don't start until 2023.