M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]

[martinbo]

I don't get the marketing of M at the moment. This video seems to targeted at teenagers. A demographic which can't afford them. The video does absolutely nothing for me, and I would be quite embarrassed to show it to my wife for fear that she'd say I'm too old at 43 to buy one.

It's childish.

 

[LaArtist]

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M Town ? I dreamt of this hell, and it really looked like a port in Rotterdam with containers, rain , darkness no life no love.. no comfort.. and smug faced bastards driving m cars to fast for no reason

Jesus is this where I will go if I do no behave ?

I need to get my shit together , i have to stop pursuing sex with klier..

#wakeupcall
#irepent

 

[Merc1]

That rear fender/door meet on the M3 is absolutely the worst thing I've ever seen on a BMW. Looks like the car has been in an accident. BMW was too cheap to reshape the rear doors for the M3.

M

 

[dalab]

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From what I appreciate, the video seeks to begin to draw more attention to handling and performance than to the world-acclaimed design

 

[Gianclaudio]

I'm too old at 53 to buy one.

Fixed to honor the truth

 

[Deleted member 1071]

It's childish.

It is.

Still, it reinforces my initial perceptions. I like the M3 far more in terms of exterior design. It looks really smart in that tone of metallic green.

 

[David Brent]

It is.

Still, it reinforces my initial perceptions. I like the M3 far more in terms of exterior design. It looks really smart in that tone of metallic green.

Agreed. Isle of Man Green and Kyalami Orange is my number one combo for the M3.

 

[SCOTT27]

Anyway....

São Paulo on the Streets. Really warming to this colour now. Especially on the M3.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Anyway....

São Paulo on the Streets. Really warming to this colour now. Especially on the M3.

Not feeling that side profile here. Perhaps it's the angle or lens (a bit fish-eyed and filtered), I can't put my finger on it.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Anyway....

São Paulo on the Streets. Really warming to this colour now. Especially on the M3.

Relative to its' particular genre, the M3 looks really good. But this color combo with the black rims is simply no bueno .

 

[advantage20]

Relative to its' particular genre, the M3 looks really good. But this color combo with the black rims is simply no bueno .

I get where you're going, black wheels are usually the mark of utilitarian vehicles, or of passenger vehicles when wearing winter tires over cheap steel rims stripped of their fake ungraceful plastic wheel caps. And black wheels tend to visually dig two gaping holes precisely there where the car most needs to show that it's sitting on something solid and tangible that sustains its body over the road surface.

However there is a benefit to leaving the "metal needs to look silver" paradigm behind and that is allowing to reduce the total amount of colors and textures on the vehicle's exterior. The M3 above can pretty much be visually summed up as: a big chunk of yellow (body), sprinkled with an attire of gloss black elements (grille, wheels, side skirts, rear valance, exhaust tips, side gills, side mirrors, window trim, spoiler, roof...), and a set of tinted translucent elements (glass, headlights) which can be assimilated to black. That's only 2 main colors on the whole vehicle exterior (I'm leaving out the tail lights which BMW fortunately keeps partially red), and 2 very contrasting colors as it happens in this occurrence. This creates an especially striking visual statement because it is minimalistic in its number of colors and textures and is therefore immediately legible and comprehensible.

In fact the whole automotive design industry has started viewing cars as a blank canvas upon which certain predesigned color schemes are applied regardless of the variety of materials involved (metal, plastic, rubber, carbon, fabric...), through reduction of color variety and intermingling of the few chosen colors, resulting in a strong visual identity inside out

As automotive design inches closer and closer to product design, cars look increasingly less like big heavy metal blobs and increasingly more like our everyday fashion pieces or high-tech devices

So personally I've learnt to appreciate a black wheelset if it helps harmonize the overall design by matching other key elements (grille, window trim...), as long as the wheel design is excellent to begin with, the size is large enough, and the finish is shiny enough to reflect ambient light and put sufficient visual emphasis on the wheels i.e. avoid the black pit effect However I'd definitely switch back to silver wheels against a black or dark blue body color.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Looking at some very recent N'ring testing vids of the M4 with minimal camo and seeing it in "full attack" mode, I think the front makes even more sense. Also the M4's rear haunches don't look as bloated. Still, I am Team M3, but the M4 looks more palatable to me than it did a week ago.

Regarding Sao Paolo Yellow, after seeing BMW's Austin Yellow, I think if I really wanted a yellow, I'd spring for an Individual option and get Austin Yellow. Generally, I don't care for yellow, but Austin Yellow just has a delightful shimmer in the sunlight without being too loud or over the top.

 

[M.N.D]

Off topic posts removed to the off topic thread... for the third time.

Now...

It's obvious that trying to be nice and polite was useless, while keeping on repeating the "keep it civil, folks" phrase over and over fell on deaf ears.

This kind of behavior is not only decreasing the quality of this thread and the forum, but it will also discourage other members from joining the discussion, and future members from joining GCF.

From now on, if any kind of trolling, personal fighting or off-topic derailing will be noticed, either here or in other threads, every participating member will be IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY THREAD BANNED without further notice, and there are no exceptions.

If there are members who cannot handle each other, there is the ignore button. If that option is not desired, then members will be responsible for how they behave when they interact with each other.

Remember that we are all here to have fun at the end of the day. Every one of us is going through these tough times and we're all in a position that we didn't choose, or we don't want. This is not the place to vent off your frustration and grumpiness. Stop provoking each other just to prove yourself right because it benefits no one. Stop being overly sensitive about such a topic with all of this fighting, because at the end of the day, you're largely still attached to your point of view, while others are attached to their own.

Don't say that you haven't been informed.

 

[Sunny]

I thought so even before, but the side by side convinces me even more, that someone at BMW was massively influenced/inspired by the Giulia - the vertical grill, the squished fruit headlights, the prominent dead space between the headlights and grill. All of which is 180 from the current BMW 3/5/7 designs.

I am not a big fan of the Giulia's design either (coincidentally for the last 2 of those 3 elements), but it has a certain flare which was lost in the Italian to German translation.

But what I don't really get is - M3 is the original, it defined the category, why be influenced by a newcomer. It would be like if 911 copied the R8 after the R8 came out instead of sticking to its own design.

 

[mini_cooper4]

BMW has done that same thing in the past and not only design wise.
There's a reason why people used to call them "The German Alfa" and I don't cosider this a bad thing either. My problem is that I'm not particularly fond of the german interpretation.

 

[manuelf]

@advantage20
Good posting! I also regularly vote for black wheels (on my E92 M3 and F82 M4) exactly for the reasons you describe! Not because I feel, that black wheels are cool ghetto or gangsta style, but because of a minimalistic two tone color scheme! On the Ms I do already have those black accents/parts, especially with my Competition pack versions (carbon roof, grills, exhaust tipps, shadowline gloss window frames, side sills, carbon front splitters, rear spoiler, diffusor).
So - black wheels keep this homogenous two color scheme! Putting 19 or 20 inch bright silver rims on the car, looks odd to me!
Originally my E92 M3 competition in brilliant white (with M performance goodies) came with the 359 M competition wheels in silver! My winter wheel setup were BBS CH-R wheels in satin black same 19" size. After I switched to this winter setup all my (car enthusiastic) friends told me: "Manuel, you are the first, where the car with winter setup looks better, more cohesive!".
Ok. Next summer season I coated also the summer rims 359M in satin black and it looked so much better!

Long story short: On cars with two tone color schemes with existing silver accents, I feel, that silver rims look perfect. On a car, without existing silver accents and there silver rims simply add an additional color accent, I don't like it that much.

 

[Merc1]

Is the competition model AWD only?

M

 

[manuelf]

Is the competition model AWD only?

M

No. But it is automatic transmission only.

 

[David Brent]

@advantage20
Good posting! I also regularly vote for black wheels (on my E92 M3 and F82 M4) exactly for the reasons you describe! Not because I feel, that black wheels are cool ghetto or gangsta style, but because of a minimalistic two tone color scheme! On the Ms I do already have those black accents/parts, especially with my Competition pack versions (carbon roof, grills, exhaust tipps, shadowline gloss window frames, side sills, carbon front splitters, rear spoiler, diffusor).
So - black wheels keep this homogenous two color scheme! Putting 19 or 20 inch bright silver rims on the car, looks odd to me!
Originally my E92 M3 competition in brilliant white (with M performance goodies) came with the 359 M competition wheels in silver! My winter wheel setup were BBS CH-R wheels in satin black same 19" size. After I switched to this winter setup all my (car enthusiastic) friends told me: "Manuel, you are the first, where the car with winter setup looks better, more cohesive!".
Ok. Next summer season I coated also the summer rims 359M in satin black and it looked so much better!

Long story short: On cars with two tone color schemes with existing silver accents, I feel, that silver rims look perfect. On a car, without existing silver accents and there silver rims simply add an additional color accent, I don't like it that much.

I think the rims available are the best yet. When I get time I may post photos of all the options. There are in fact FOUR sets of black rims. There are the two different designs, and then each design can have "bi-colour" or "jet black".

 

[SCOTT27]

I thought so even before, but the side by side convinces me even more, that someone at BMW was massively influenced/inspired by the Giulia - the vertical grill, the squished fruit headlights, the prominent dead space between the headlights and grill. All of which is 180 from the current BMW 3/5/7 designs.

I am not a big fan of the Giulia's design either (coincidentally for the last 2 of those 3 elements), but it has a certain flare which was lost in the Italian to German translation.

But what I don't really get is - M3 is the original, it defined the category, why be influenced by a newcomer. It would be like if 911 copied the R8 after the R8 came out instead of sticking to its own design.

Nice that you matched their colours perfectly.