M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]

[SCOTT27]

You should add the M3 Touring and M4 Cabrio to the vote to see where this ends up?

 

[David Brent]

You should add the M3 Touring and M4 Cabrio to the vote to see where this ends up?

Maybe when those cars actually exist, hey?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

BMW has done that same thing in the past and not only design wise.
There's a reason why people used to call them "The German Alfa" and I don't cosider this a bad thing either. My problem is that I'm not particularly fond of the german interpretation.

This made me chuckle. BMW often being referred to as "The German Alfa" dates back to the time of the introduction of the "Neue Klasse" 1500 in 1962 and the analogy was further anchored when the 1600/2 was introduced in 1966. I very clearly remember this from my childhood and youth. This, however, began to pale upon the introduction of the first 5 series (E12) in 1972 and BMW has since "liberated" itself from that comparison. I assume that this may have more to do with Alfa-Romeos' evolution than that of BMW.

 

[David Brent]

Yeah. Being referred to as the "German Alfa" can be a double-edged sword. It's hard to know whether to take it as a compliment or an insult.

 

[LaArtist]

I thought so even before, but the side by side convinces me even more, that someone at BMW was massively influenced/inspired by the Giulia - the vertical grill, the squished fruit headlights, the prominent dead space between the headlights and grill. All of which is 180 from the current BMW 3/5/7 designs.

I am not a big fan of the Giulia's design either (coincidentally for the last 2 of those 3 elements), but it has a certain flare which was lost in the Italian to German translation.

But what I don't really get is - M3 is the original, it defined the category, why be influenced by a newcomer. It would be like if 911 copied the R8 after the R8 came out instead of sticking to its own design.

Alfa looks waaaaaay better

 

[dalab]

I think that the details all in black, flaps, sideskirts, mirrors, roof and the complementary pieces of the front and rear fenders, are a great success, it is not something that was seen very commonly these days, I liked how it was a couple of decades ago in other cars and I like this return especially because fit these two very well and reinforce their appearance and character, IRL in the sunlight it should draw a lot of attention to the eye

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[dalab]

I thought so even before, but the side by side convinces me even more, that someone at BMW was massively influenced/inspired by the Giulia - the vertical grill, the squished fruit headlights, the prominent dead space between the headlights and grill. All of which is 180 from the current BMW 3/5/7 designs.

I am not a big fan of the Giulia's design either (coincidentally for the last 2 of those 3 elements), but it has a certain flare which was lost in the Italian to German translation.

But what I don't really get is - M3 is the original, it defined the category, why be influenced by a newcomer. It would be like if 911 copied the R8 after the R8 came out instead of sticking to its own design.

This flirtation and winks has been going on for a long time between both brands, I think historically they have two of the most beautiful and characteristic grills in the industry (even if they are only a simple triangle and two simple kidneys) and in a certain way both apply in a similar way on the front transmitting a lot of force and other manufacturers wish they had something minimally similar in brand recognition.

*Since I can remember they have seemed similar to me, in addition to these two there are many more examples in those of the 60', 70' and 80'

Since Alfa began to highlight its grille as with the Brera for example, (beautifuI car), I have wished that BMW would do the same and now it has.
There may be something that Alfa was "ahead" of them a bit with the Giulia, but I think it is more the natural evolution of the kidneys today, the Giulia has not been successful at all so it cannot be said that it is to emulate a success, if I agree with that there are similarities, but more so because of what I was saying before and that is that historically, due to the shape of the front and grill, they have an application that sometimes looks similar.

 

[Centurion]

@Merc1 From what I recall from the Bangle debate here, that was much more polarizing.

Bangle designs were extremely polorizing. I couldn't stand the design od the Z4 but grew to love it.

A neighbour of mine bought one a few months ago and it has the allure of a forward thinking concept car. His is in the below individual colour but with oyster leather.

The best way to judge a car design is by looking at its successor and the E89 Z4 is one of BMW's most forgettable designs.

The new M2 will be the M3/M4s biggest competitor and most obvious comparison. Moving your eyes between the two will be very interesting as their designs will be polar opposites.

I think that the details all in black, flaps, sideskirts, mirrors, roof and the complementary pieces of the front and rear fenders, are a great success, it is not something that was seen very commonly these days, I liked how it was a couple of decades ago in other cars and I like this return especially because fit these two very well and reinforce their appearance and character, IRL in the sunlight it should draw a lot of attention to the eye

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Gloss black lips and skirts are common modifications. Like Toyota did with the Supra and Honda with the Type R, BMW are jumping ahead of the aftermarket industry by styling the car with aesthetics mods that some owners would buy anyway.

 

[Yaz]

Missed opportunity by BMW.
Should have kept the classic BMW face on the M3.
Bold and new face on the M4.

Or screw with us and swap front facia between the coupe and the sedan

 

[dalab]

 

[hovabongZA]

Stunning , it keeps getting better and better

 

[domleo999]

I thought the headlights were a big problem upon release.

As time goes on I think they look incredible now.

 

[David Brent]

Stunning , it keeps getting better and better

I don't think a single one of these colours improve upon either of the two launch colours we've already seen. Isle of Man Green is particularly nice, and while I see why some won't like Sao Paulo Yellow, I personally love it. Looking forward to seeing Toronto Red without all the M Performance kit.

These are good photos to see the Orbit Grey coloured rims.

 

[J.E]

I think it's hilarious that BMW named the yellow colour after a metropolis city that's been nicknamed as "drizzle land".

 

[Matski]

I think it's hilarious that BMW named the yellow colour after a metropolis city that's been nicknamed as "drizzle land".

It can join Silverstone grey as being named after a village with one shop, a cashpoint that charges too much for your own cash and and a pub that's always got an underwhelming beer selection. Or Donnington silver, which would have been better known as DHL Air Cargo Freight terminal silver... or Brands Hatch grey, which is named after somewhere whose pub selection is even worse than Silverstone and is general a Kentish craphole known only for its better than average race track.

 

[advantage20]

I'm glad that BMW finally makes more than just 2 stock wheel options available (one small, one big) without having to dig into the M Performance catalog or the aftermarket (which seems to be this generation's leitmotiv), with full bright, full dark, or dark with bright outer ring. Although I can't help but think the latter are a page ripped out of the AMG book

 

[martinbo]

Although I can't help but think the latter are a page ripped out of the AMG book

I not thinking the same. The M wheels are quite different to the AMG wheels - even the brightwork on the rim outer is subtly different.

 

[dalab]

With black vinyl details certain variants are achieved that are also interesting, the tunners have enough to play here.

BMW M4 G82: Tuning-Entwürfe bringen Motorsport-Look

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[Sunny]

Missed opportunity by BMW.
Should have kept the classic BMW face on the M3.
Bold and new face on the M4.

Indeed, they could have had the cake and eaten it too, by giving 3 and 4, 2 separate mouths!

 

[David Brent]

I'm glad that BMW finally makes more than just 2 stock wheel options available (one small, one big) without having to dig into the M Performance catalog or the aftermarket (which seems to be this generation's leitmotiv), with full bright, full dark, or dark with bright outer ring.

There are actually more options than that. There's also bi-colour available.