M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]


The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the BMW 3 Series, developed by BMW's in-house motorsport division, BMW M GmbH. M3 models have been produced for every generation of 3 Series since the E30 M3 was introduced in 1986. The BMW M4 is a high-performance version of the BMW 4 Series automobile developed by BMW's motorsport division, BMW M, that has been built since 2014. As part of the renumbering that splits the coupé and convertible variants of the 3 Series into the 4 Series, the M4 replaced those variants of the BMW M3. Official website: BMW M

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Very uneasy indeed.

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So, I've just placed an order with BMW Park Lane, London, for a G80 M3 Competition

Congrats though.... what's the spec?
 
Congrats though.... what's the spec?
It's changeable for quite a while yet, but I've ordered it like this...

Isle of Man Green exterior
Kyalami Orange full merino leather interior
826 M Double-spoke Bicolour Black Alloy Wheels (they're my favourite and they're standard)
Visibility package (LASER lights)
Red caliper brakes
Parking Assistant Plus (The 3D surround cameras etc)
Drive Recorder
Trackstar Cat 5 tracker



This is all the stuff it comes with as standard in the UK:

1MB M Drive Professional
1T8 19"/20" 826 M Double-spoke Bicolour Black Alloy Wheels 2T4 M Sport Differential
2VC Tyre Repair Kit
2VF M Adaptive Suspension
302 Alarm System
3KA Acoustic glass
3MF BMW Individual Lights Shadow Line
420 Sun Protection Glass
428 Warning Triangle
430 Folding Wing Mirrors with Auto-dimming
431 Rear-view Mirror with Auto dimming
459 Electric Memory Seats
488 Front Lumbar Support
493 Extended storage
494 Front Heated Seats
4GQ M Sport Seat Belts
4MC Carbon Fibre Interior Trim
4U0 Galvanic Controls
534 Automatic Air Conditioning
544 Cruise Control
5AC High-Beam Assistant
5AS Driving Assistant
5AV Active Guard
5DA Passenger airbag deactivation, front
5DC Rear Folding Headrests
610 Head-Up Display
654 DAB Radio
688 Harman/Kardon Surround Sound Audio System
6AE BMW TeleServices
6AF BMW Emergency Call
6AK BMW Online Services
6C4 Connected Package Pro
6U3 Live Cockpit Professional
6U8 Gesture Control
712 M Sport Seats
760 High-gloss Shadowline Exterior Trim
775 Anthracite Headlining
7M9 BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended contents


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So, I've just placed an order with BMW Park Lane, London, for a G80 M3 Competition. I was supposed to be waiting for the M3 Touring which is due in about one year, but it will have the LCI update and therefore the new interior, and I'm seriously not a fan of the direction the interiors are going, with the emphasis on touch screens, and the ugly screen across the dashboard, so I wanted to get in on the M3 action pre-LCI. I may still get the Touring in the long term, but I didn't want to be in a position where I have no choice but to get the LCI. Delivery is expected next May, but that could change quite a bit.

My wife knows what I've done and is suprisingly acquiescent, which makes me very uneasy. Very uneasy indeed.
Is agree. The LCI interior is not a step forward except if you desperately want augmented reality. Deep down inside I am hoping that the Touring will be released pre-LCI. However its unlikely.
 
So, I've just placed an order with BMW Park Lane, London, for a G80 M3 Competition. I was supposed to be waiting for the M3 Touring which is due in about one year, but it will have the LCI update and therefore the new interior, and I'm seriously not a fan of the direction the interiors are going, with the emphasis on touch screens, and the ugly screen across the dashboard, so I wanted to get in on the M3 action pre-LCI. I may still get the Touring in the long term, but I didn't want to be in a position where I have no choice but to get the LCI. Delivery is expected next May, but that could change quite a bit.

My wife knows what I've done and is suprisingly acquiescent, which makes me very uneasy. Very uneasy indeed.
To May? Is it because of the "normal" waiting list, or because of a shortage of chips?
 
Have you taken some seating time in the carbon buckets? And then decided against it? I'm just curious, because the feedback is so different: Some say "perfect long journey comfort" other say the opposite ... so you really have to test it in person - for several days with a test car ...
 
To May? Is it because of the "normal" waiting list, or because of a shortage of chips?

Yes, because of the chip shortage. Maybe you could find a dealer with an allocation that hasn't been sold, but it's unlikely at the moment. In the past I've had to wait around six months for my E46 M3 and E92 M3, but my F82 M4 only took a few months to arrive. But again, it depends on if you find a dealer who has an allocation in the near future. May is not exactly certain either. It could come forward, but it could move back. Any later than July then it may be an LCI M3, as I believe the G20 is due it around July next year, and the M3 will match that, and I don't want an LCI M3.

Have you taken some seating time in the carbon buckets? And then decided against it? I'm just curious, because the feedback is so different: Some say "perfect long journey comfort" other say the opposite ... so you really have to test it in person - for several days with a test car ...

I have sat in the buckets several times over the last few months. My wife sat in them for the first time yesterday. Even if I could accept the price of them (I can't), I found them very uncomfortable, and my wife found getting out of them hard without assistance from me. We'll be driving long distance quite a lot so there's no way I would specify them. The M3 is a very fast family car so bucket seats to me seem an unnecessary option. Fair enough for the CSL, but standard seats are already gorgeous, and more than supportive enough. They may be desirable for the YouTube vlogger, or people speccing up fantasy cars, but if I was buying a car to do the things for which bucket seats are useful, I wouldn't be buying an M3 in the first place.
 
Yes, because of the chip shortage. Maybe you could find a dealer with an allocation that hasn't been sold, but it's unlikely at the moment. In the past I've had to wait around six months for my E46 M3 and E92 M3, but my F82 M4 only took a few months to arrive. But again, it depends on if you find a dealer who has an allocation in the near future. May is not exactly certain either. It could come forward, but it could move back. Any later than July then it may be an LCI M3, as I believe the G20 is due it around July next year, and the M3 will match that, and I don't want an LCI M3.



I have sat in the buckets several times over the last few months. My wife sat in them for the first time yesterday. Even if I could accept the price of them (I can't), I found them very uncomfortable, and my wife found getting out of them hard without assistance from me. We'll be driving long distance quite a lot so there's no way I would specify them. The M3 is a very fast family car so bucket seats to me seem an unnecessary option. Fair enough for the CSL, but standard seats are already gorgeous, and more than supportive enough. They may be desirable for the YouTube vlogger, or people speccing up fantasy cars, but if I was buying a car to do the things for which bucket seats are useful, I wouldn't be buying an M3 in the first place.
I suppose the same reasons stay behind the not ordering of the carbon ceramic brakes? What about AWD?
 
I suppose the same reasons stay behind the not ordering of the carbon ceramic brakes? What about AWD?

Yeah. From what I've read on the forums over the years, people who've ordered the ceramic brakes wouldn't order them again. Completely unnecessary for a road car. Most people seem to be saying the biggest appeal of ceramics is less brake dust. Let's face it, 95% of my driving is going to be at or below the speed limit, in traffic, going shopping, taking the children to school. If I was going to track the car, I wouldn't be buying an M3 in the first place.

Nah, at the end of the day, the M3 is an uber-fast family car. It's not a track toy. I've got my R8 for serious fun, which the M3 will not come close to. Not in driving pleasure anyway. However, it's mad to think the fastest car in my fleet is no longer going to be a 525hp R8 V10, and is going to be a four-door saloon. :p

Wanting RWD is the reason I've pulled the trigger on a G80 M3 and I haven't waited for the Touring, which will only come with 4WD. That's not to say I won't buy the Touring at some point, but I would be buying it DESPITE the 4WD rather than because of it.
 
I have sat in the buckets several times over the last few months. My wife sat in them for the first time yesterday. Even if I could accept the price of them (I can't), I found them very uncomfortable, and my wife found getting out of them hard without assistance from me. We'll be driving long distance quite a lot so there's no way I would specify them. The M3 is a very fast family car so bucket seats to me seem an unnecessary option. Fair enough for the CSL, but standard seats are already gorgeous, and more than supportive enough. They may be desirable for the YouTube vlogger, or people speccing up fantasy cars, but if I was buying a car to do the things for which bucket seats are useful, I wouldn't be buying an M3 in the first place.
Anyone ordering an M3/M4 should only spec bucket seats if they know what they are doing.

Bucket seats are sexy in super cars. However owners of those cars sometimes own additional cars or can afford to trade in their car within 12 months if they find it uncomfortable or regret the colour.

You don't want to sign a 4 year finance agreement for an M3 that you find thrilling to drive when in the mood but find uncomfortable to cruise in.
 
Bucket seats are strictly for track work. They're horrible for normal road use.
 
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So, I've just placed an order with BMW Park Lane, London, for a G80 M3 Competition. I was supposed to be waiting for the M3 Touring which is due in about one year, but it will have the LCI update and therefore the new interior, and I'm seriously not a fan of the direction the interiors are going, with the emphasis on touch screens, and the ugly screen across the dashboard, so I wanted to get in on the M3 action pre-LCI. I may still get the Touring in the long term, but I didn't want to be in a position where I have no choice but to get the LCI. Delivery is expected next May, but that could change quite a bit.

My wife knows what I've done and is suprisingly acquiescent, which makes me very uneasy. Very uneasy indeed.

Diplomatic/Forces sale? Just wondering why you chose P/L this time.

UK cars are very well spec-ed, agree on wheels, my personal favourite too thought I though Jet black were now the standard and you had to pay extra for the bi-colour?
 
Diplomatic/Forces sale? Just wondering why you chose P/L this time.

UK cars are very well spec-ed, agree on wheels, my personal favourite too thought I though Jet black were now the standard and you had to pay extra for the bi-colour?

Diplo.

No, the bi-colour 826 M are the standard wheels. If you want the 826 M Jet Black wheels then it's a £300 option.
 
Diplomatic/Forces sale? Just wondering why you chose P/L this time.

UK cars are very well spec-ed, agree on wheels, my personal favourite too thought I though Jet black were now the standard and you had to pay extra for the bi-colour?

In my local BMW dealer in the Netherlands they have an M3 Competition for sale at €152,000. It's just an averagely specced example.

The M3 Competition starts at €129,620 before options, which is around £110,000. Options that cost money in the Netherlands but are standard in the UK are:

Metallic paint €1,275
19"/20" wheels €2,082
Carbon Fibre trim €1,335
Sun protection glass €513
Seat belts with M striping €321
M Drive Professional €961
Red brake calipers €374
Head-up Display €1,228
Harman/Kardon €555
Comfort telephone connection €523
Gesture control €321
Galvanic controls €106
 

BMW M

BMW M GmbH, formerly known as BMW Motorsport GmbH, is a subsidiary of BMW AG that manufactures high-performance luxury cars. BMW M ("M" for "motorsport") was initially created to facilitate BMW's racing program, which was very successful in the 1960s and 1970s. As time passed, BMW M began to supplement BMW's vehicle portfolio with specially modified higher trim models, for which they are now most known by the general public. These M-badged cars traditionally include modified engines, transmissions, suspensions, interior trims, aerodynamics, and exterior modifications to set them apart from their counterparts. All M models are tested and tuned at BMW's private facility at the Nürburgring racing circuit in Germany.
Official website: BMW M

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