Official: 2012 C63 AMG Coupe

[Merc1]

How the heck is this a band-aid car with no R&D behind it? Do you really think they didn't do any R&D to develop this car? You think it was just thrown together?

M

 

[K-A]

I mean the Design. It had little R&D behind it, because they're band-aiding a relatively Coupe roofline (I say relatively because it doesn't appear as sleek and elegant as the E-Coupes, or CL's, etc.) onto a Sedans body.

As far as technological and engineering aspects, of course it'll be top notch, as it's a C-Class.

 

[K-A]

Even the E-Coupe, like it or not, obviously was more visually developed than this, as its a much more modified look over the chassis that its based off of (or the car that its *apparently* based off of).

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

How the heck is this a band-aid car with no R&D behind it? Do you really think they didn't do any R&D to develop this car? You think it was just thrown together?

M

I think KA just means it not as bespoke as the next gen C-coupe will likely be. Mercedes realised they hit quite a little jackpot with the current C, and the coupe was somewhat an afterthought to capitalise on this new found appeal in this market segment.

They took what is really a C-coupe and pushed it up as the E-coupe leaving room for this. Next generation you will no doubt see an E-coupe more worhty of its name and the C-coupe a bit more differentiated from the sedan.

 

[K-A]

Exactly, and well articulated, lol.

If M-B made an E-Coupe based off of the E's size and actual chassis, with an *E WORTHY* interior, wow, I could have been SO on board! It's funny because I did not buy my Sedan because I needed the space for other people, as I don't have kids, and don't haul people around with me. I bought it for its style and appearance/interior quality over the E-Coupe, not to mention that I knew the E-Coupe wasn't as worthy of its price tag.

Kinda sad IMO, when somebody like me buys a Sedan over a Coupe for reasons that a Coupe is supposed to usually win out on. The CL is a perfect example of basing a Coupe off of its Sedan Brother.

 

[Pagani]

I saw an E-coupe in traffic the other day, black with AMG sport package. It looked E-ish, if that makes sense. Sizing it up, you would not think it is based on the C-Class. Except the kit it wore, i.e. same rubber as a C sport package. A proper E coupe would have been way cooler, and way more expensive as well. I simply do not see how the current E and C coupe fit with each other next to in the line up.

 

[K-A]

I would have so loved a real E-Sized Coupe..... arghh. Something that came in at 192" long like the like real E Sedan. Could have been SO hot! Would have been a bonafide competitor to the 6-Series, even if they priced it much lower.

 

[Merc1]

I mean the Design. It had little R&D behind it, because they're band-aiding a relatively Coupe roofline (I say relatively because it doesn't appear as sleek and elegant as the E-Coupes, or CL's, etc.) onto a Sedans body.

As far as technological and engineering aspects, of course it'll be top notch, as it's a C-Class.

K/A Mercedes didn't just throw the design together either. They purposely said that they were going back to "what made our coupes popular in the first place", i.e. the 2-door sedan look that the previous E-Class (C124) coupe had. Why would they make it as sleek as the E-Class coupe when they're both based on the same chassis? Making the C more upright and formal was done on purpose, all the press material and company executive comments bare this out. If you look at a 300CE and the C-Class Coupe you will see exactly where they're coming from. There is nothing bandaid or rushed here.


The design that doesn't jive is the E-Class coupe, cause its nothing but a CLK with a different name. This about the C Coupe being rushed or a band aid project is something someone made up in their head and now people are running with it like its fact, despite what MB said about the design of the car before it even came out.


M

 

[K-A]

K/A Mercedes didn't just throw the design together either. They purposely said that they were going back to "what made our coupes popular in the first place", i.e. the 2-door sedan look that the previous E-Class (C124) coupe had. Why would they make it as sleek as the E-Class coupe when they're both based on the same chassis? Making the C more upright and formal was done on purpose, all the press material and company executive comments bare this out. If you look at a 300CE and the C-Class Coupe you will see exactly where they're coming from. There is nothing bandaid or rushed here.


The design that doesn't jive is the E-Class coupe, cause its nothing but a CLK with a different name. This about the C Coupe being rushed or a band aid project is something someone made up in their head and now people are running with it like its fact, despite what MB said about the design of the car before it even came out.


M

I guess that makes sense. This car is truly a Coupe version of the Sedan, in every which way. And the "E" Coupe" is truly the odd man out.

To me, what I see when I look at this Coupe is a car that is proportioned and intended to look perfect as a 3-Box Sedan, and looks kinda halfway Coupe-y, as a Coupe. However, this does appear to be what the classic Coupe versions of Sedans were indeed about. I always liked the W124 4-Door over the Coupe, and as much as I love the SEC, I gotta pick the S over it. Probably for partially the same reasons that I like the Sedan C over this Coupe C (and I usually like 4-Doors it seems).

 

[Auto]

So irritating to look at that gear knob, is it hard do have it look more 2011 and make it go in a straight line when changing gear. Looks like they used the same one on the C-klass back in 1999.

So far, BMW has the best and most modern looking gear knob.

 

[SKY]

So irritating to look at that gear knob, is it hard do have it look more 2011 and make it go in a straight line when changing gear. Looks like they used the same one on the C-klass back in 1999.

So far, BMW has the best and most modern looking gear knob.

MB is doing pretty well with their knobs on the top AMG models, but I agree this particular one looks 100% dated. I think the best solution is avoidinf any type of knob and replacing them for this:

Which means just three buttons, D, R, P, like Aston Martin.

PD: BMW had the same shifter but almost 20 years, they needed such an important change.

 

[Soup]

 

[Cashmere]

What confuses me is that the E Class coupe is technically a C Class, and now there is also a C class coupe??

 

[HighestOfHigh]

What confuses me is that the E Class coupe is technically a C Class, and now there is also a C class coupe??

Don't let it confuse you. It's just business.

 

[conneem]

What confuses me is that the E Class coupe is technically a C Class, and now there is also a C class coupe??

Is it? Even though it shares 60% of it's components with the E Sedan, most of the rest I presume are different body panels, interior ect.. for the coupe shape.

All it uses from the C Class is the Agility Control suspension setup.

The confusion probably arose from this

http://www.leftlanenews.com/correct...is-more-than-60-percent-based-on-e-class.html

I don't see the issue even if it was, it still works very well and no one could probably tell the difference, as we can see with people still saying it is based on the c class.

 

[K-A]

Fact of the matter is the E-Coupe IS a C-Class, same exact chassis, almost exact dimensions, exact same hardpoints, basically identical interior (minus some real "E" Sedan gimmicks, etc.), with lots of E-Class tech and components on top of it.

 

[conneem]

Fact of the matter is the E-Coupe IS a C-Class, same exact chassis, almost exact dimensions, exact same hardpoints, basically identical interior (minus some real "E" Sedan gimmicks, etc.), with lots of E-Class tech and components on top of it.

What facts though, those initial incorrect media reports

http://www.germancarforum.com/e-class-coupe/30530-new-e-coupe-based-e-class-not-c-class.html

interiors look to be pretty different too.

I'm pretty sure they do share some parts but they make very little difference to the end user, just like on a Murcielago the indicators are from a MKI Ford Focus and the seat belt buckles are from a Fiat Cinquecento

 

[K-A]

Is that for real about the Murcielago? How the hell did that happen? Lol.

 

[conneem]

Is that for real about the Murcielago? How the hell did that happen? Lol.

Yeah, it is pretty weird. The Ford Focus side indicators/reflector units are popular with Murcielago replica builders as they cost about a 10th of the identical Lamborghini ones

 

[Monster]

What facts though, those initial incorrect media reports

Well those initial media reports are correct until Mercedes's spin doctors got to work. The C class sedan, coupe, and the "E" coupe all share the same wheelbase.

tennmb sums it up when he said

The E-coupe shares alot with the E-sedan, no doubt. But the basic architecture is a C. If you pull up the spare tire cover on a C and a E-coupe you will see what I mean. In other words when you pull away the facade and see the bones on the thing, they are basically the same.

I am standing here looking at a C, E and E-coupe side by side on my showroom. If the E-coupe did share its basic architecture with the sedan, it might actually have a functional back seat.

There is not a lot of difference in suspension, steering and drive train between the three. All these are using the agility control technology.

Gone are they days when each car has its own specific platform and components, which means there is a bit of C in the E, and a bit of E in the C.

The design might be different to trick the average buyer, but we know better than that.