FF [Official] 2011 Ferrari FF

[Centurion]

Looks appetizing but still doesn't constitute as a Ferrari to be. You might as well slap a Renault badge on it and shrink the car to the size of a V6 hatchback.

 

[martinbo]

Are you on chronic medication Luw?

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Are you on chronic medication Luw?

If he is, I might be taking the same thing. It's just when you think of a Ferrari, a hatchback..fastback..shooting brake..wagon...or whatever just doesn't come to mind.

It's starting to look better, but I still can't wrap my mind around it. Of course after watching some of the videos, the car sounds glorious and almost makes you forget about it's looks.

 

[Remy Zero]

Just like other companies, Ferrari have to continue to come up with radical ideas to ensure the company survives. Many years ago, people would have laughed at the idea of supercars going green. But it did happen.

Now, in this case, i'm on the fence. I will not make judgement on the car's looks till i've seen her in flesh. Sure the numbers looks interesting, but real life view of the car is pretty important as a package.

I think Ferrari is replacing the 612 with this. The 612 and California, IMHO are the most horrible looking modern Ferraris.

I see Ferrari appealing to a brand new crowd with this car. Just like Porsche did with the Cayenne a few years ago. Definitely i don't like the idea of Ferrari making hatchbacks, but i guess it's the only way forward...to survive...

 

[Centurion]

Are you on chronic medication Luw?

I probably should be on medication, herbal medication that is, so that I stop rationalizing over the existence of this car. Fact of the matter is that it can't be any worse than Cayenne which is probably the most shocking addition to a car portfolio in recent memory.

 

[klier]

^^^ True, Cayenne was extraordinary. Makes this Ferrari a tame addition.
More radical cars coming up though, like the Lambo SUV...

This FF is like a modern day Z3 coupe, I really like it. Perfect Ferrari to go to the Swiss mountains with!

 

[Giannis]

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[Deutsch]

whatever anyone thinks of the looks it won't keep those whom are actually going to fork over the half or so million this car is going to command from doing so. truth is, it's far more interesting to look at than the 612 could have ever have hoped to be. for that reason and if for none other, this car is already a home run.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Does anyone remember the Ferrari Pinin concept show car of 1980 ?

It was Ferraris' concept of what a luxury high-performance 4 door sedan should look like. The body was penned by Pininfarina. It was absolutely gorgeous and more than a few regretted that the car never made it into production. It was quite forward looking with its' flush side glass and slender headlamps.

 

[PanterroR]

^



The earlier post about Ferrari swearing to never build a four door instantly reminded me of the four door that Ferrari almost did build: the stunningly beautiful 1980 Pinin concept. I have vivid memories of drooling over it at the 1980 or 1981 LA Auto Show. What a divine piece of work in an era that gave us some weird four doors such as the Lagonda.



Sergio Pininfarina designed and had this car built as a tribute to his father, Battista ‘Pinin’ Farina, and it was first shown at the 1980 Turin Show. It was a huge success, and Enzo Ferrari was duly impressed. He invited Farina to discuss building a limited run of Pinins, but it somehow never quite came together. But it certainly wasn’t because of any philosophical issues about a four door Ferrari. No one had ever suggested one in such a convincing fashion.



The Pinin’s interior was superb for the times, and is that a flat screen web browser in the back?



The Pinin used the flat 12 engine, presumably as also used in the BB. There were a number of other technological advances, and the car still looks remarkably fresh and attractive for a thirty year old design.


Source: Ferrari Pinin: The Four Door Ferrari That Almost Was Built | The Truth About Cars

 

[Deutsch]

that looks pretty Sicilian mafioso fo sho.

 

[Vivaki]

Let's not forget lots of market research is done by manufacturers like bmw, Mercedes and even ferrari before they finalise a new model. I'm sure they took lots of feedback from current 612 owners and implemented it into the ff. Can't wait to see this one in person for a proper judgement.

 

[bombardier01]

Ferrai FF Spider rendering

Ferrari FF Spider rendered

Seriously, are they gonna make the Spyder version of the FF? Well, i think at least it will look better than it's shooting brake version especially if they come in hardtop form like California.

Or maybe i'm gonna choose the coupe version of it.

 

[Centurion]

A convertible will not happen. Who ever wants a practical 2+2 convertible can buy the California at almost half the cost of the FF.

 

[Wunderkind]

I prefer the coupe rendering.

 

[K-A]

Ferrari FF Spider rendered

Seriously, are they gonna make the Spyder version of the FF? Well, i think at least it will look better than it's shooting brake version especially if they come in hardtop form like California.

Or maybe i'm gonna choose the coupe version of it.

Ahh! That Coupe (without the hideous manifestation that is the FF Wagon roof) is proper Ferrari sexy!

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I'm not going to deny that Coupe PS isn't a looker. It looks like a proper evolution of a 599GTB without any of the awkwardness of 612.

But that's the thing. It's predictable looking. People were expecting a coupe but got blind-sided with this risky proposition in design and tech. If the coupe would materialize, it'd be admired but it'd be lost in a long line of accomplished Ferraris. Truth be told, Ferrari hasn't really been risky in the last 20 years with their line-up. All their offerings have always had 2 doors and a coupe body, whether it'd be a front-engined GT or mid-engine sports car.

This is a smack to the head, declaring that Ferrari can be more than a rear-wheel drive coupe. Whether you think it has been smacked by the ugly stick or not, it's still a smack to the head.

 

[LaArtist]

FF= ****** Fugly

I will ask a ferrari rep if thats what it stand for

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Man I would have loved that!

 

[K-A]

I'm not going to deny that Coupe PS isn't a looker. It looks like a proper evolution of a 599GTB without any of the awkwardness of 612.

But that's the thing. It's predictable looking. People were expecting a coupe but got blind-sided with this risky proposition in design and tech. If the coupe would materialize, it'd be admired but it'd be lost in a long line of accomplished Ferraris. Truth be told, Ferrari hasn't really been risky in the last 20 years with their line-up. All their offerings have always had 2 doors and a coupe body, whether it'd be a front-engined GT or mid-engine sports car.

This is a smack to the head, declaring that Ferrari can be more than a rear-wheel drive coupe. Whether you think it has been smacked by the ugly stick or not, it's still a smack to the head.

Here's the thing about "risky", when applied to the car world: It usually is a fancy way of saying "ugly", IMO.

I personally don't want Ferreri to turn into BMW, who seem to sometimes get bored with themselves so fast that they keep trying to redefine/create genre's.

Ferrari has a cache and sex appeal that is nearly impossible to top. They really only have downhill to go from here. Being risky won't do much more for them, but perhaps slowly begin to make them more and more of a mass/volume seller.

IMO, they should certainly take chances (they always have), but in an evolutionary way, keeping the bloodline of the worlds most desirable car maker, historically especially, alive.

The FF is a lifestyle vehicle. Something that says "I go skiing", before it's a design that says "I am uncompromisingly sexy". IMO, that is what doesn't fit with the Ferrari brand. If you want a Ferrari, you do it THEIR way, and you be damn happy about it.

As for AWD, that's all fine with me, I'm more concerned about the fugly wagon-esque Hatchback Coupe look adopted by the brand.

And for the record, I'd support a Ferrari Sedan, so even I have my lines and compromises (but I'm an unabashed Sedan fan, NOT with Hatchback's though ).