FF [2011-2016] [Official] 2011 Ferrari FF

[Top Secret]

And for the record, I'd support a Ferrari Sedan, so even I have my lines and compromises (but I'm an unabashed Sedan fan, NOT with Hatchback's though ).

This negates your whole argument. Are you against the bold decision made by Ferrari or are you just not a fan of hatchbacks? A four-door sedan would be more of a departure of Ferrari's "bloodline" than a Shooting Brake.

 

[K-A]

It's more about the Hatchback, but I'm saying that I'd bend it for a Sedan. Sedan's make for nicer designs than Hatchback's, so I'd see the former being a much better fit for Ferrari, between the two. It also would be a bolder move in a sense, but at least it's using a timelessly tried and true design (4-Doors), as opposed to introducing two curve-balls: An off-the-wall/departure for Ferrari, and a polarizing design such as a Hatchback.

For the record, I'd rather that Ferrari would just stay sacred, and not jump into the "growth" market like everyone else. That's what keeps them special. I cringe at the thought that one day, we might see a Ferrari crossover.

 

[Human]

whatever anyone thinks of the looks it won't keep those whom are actually going to fork over the half or so million this car is going to command from doing so. truth is, it's far more interesting to look at than the 612 could have ever have hoped to be. for that reason and if for none other, this car is already a home run.

And indeed it is yes!

I copy pics of the new cars and concepts we discuss on GCF and then attach them to an e-mail and send it to all my (42) friends that share cars as a passion. We all have our different tastes and divided opinions BUT with the FF, I can proudly confirm the ALL positive feel and passion it evoked among all 43 of us So, home run it is!
And 11 of my friends replied that the FF is now their back ground picture on their PC's.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

It's more about the Hatchback, but I'm saying that I'd bend it for a Sedan. Sedan's make for nicer designs than Hatchback's, so I'd see the former being a much better fit for Ferrari, between the two. It also would be a bolder move in a sense, but at least it's using a timelessly tried and true design (4-Doors), as opposed to introducing two curve-balls: An off-the-wall/departure for Ferrari, and a polarizing design such as a Hatchback.

For the record, I'd rather that Ferrari would just stay sacred, and not jump into the "growth" market like everyone else. That's what keeps them special. I cringe at the thought that one day, we might see a Ferrari crossover.

I understand what you saying about maintaining purity. Things get compromised and we get something that's half-baked. But the thing i've come to realize is that even the most principled carmakers and their "philosophy" will probably get compromised for the sake of more market share. I would like things to change to sate my own sense of nostalgia but things change and nothing is salient.

But to me, this is enough of a compromise where a brand's core value is maintained while adding a few twists here and there. I agree with TopSecret where a 4-door would be more of a head-scratcher vs. a 2-door 4-seat shooting break (shooting brake, hatchback, whathever one wants to call it). Four doors are where Maseratis enter the picture. Maybe having the Cayenne introduced to the Porsche line-up has desensitized me, but I think this is less dramatic than when Porsche introduced the Cayenne.

Also keep in mind, only in North America do hatchbacks carry such a negative and unwarranted stigma. Why it still does when that category extends beyond econo-cars, is beyond me. There are enough well-to do folks who'd want to drive their Ferrari more often and with a bit more versatiility. This also offers more something more visually appealing than the wallflower that was on sale the last 6+ years called the 612 Scaglietti. I argue that the FF is a smart move by Ferrari because nobody right now offers anything like this. People in this income strata can get pretty much what they want. Another coupe would be more blase to them. Yes, people would buy them, but where's the buzz? This bodystyle creates some discussion. It creates excitement.

Also regarding equating risky with ugly, I cannot disagree more. While there are design that are risky that are ugly, there are designs that are risky that are attractive. The M-B CLS was a signinficant stylistic risk. That has paid off rather well for the folks at Stuttgart. BMW's Bangle era may have been off-putting to some, but I argue it was a much-needed change in the landscape of automotive design. I have no problems with Ferrari introducing some quirkiness to it's design language as long as theirs some consistency with the line-up. If Ferrari only traded on its name and relied on the past too much, it risks becoming hollow and relic of the past despite the cache it has accrued. Jaguar serves as a recent example as finally getting their mojo back. Ferrari, a brand that is steeped with history, needs to be forward-thinking to maintain the same level of relevance into the future. To me, it's crazy to think that there are so many choices out there in this price range and there is so much upheaval in the general marketplace, nobody can afford to sit still.

 

[ABCD]

 

[HighestOfHigh]

^Ok now I'm excited. As long as I don't see the rear it's all good!

Uh Oh...spoke to soon

 

[Sunny]

People criticizing it for being a hatchback and not a sedan is like some Beiber fan criticizing 9th symphony for not being hip.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

People criticizing it for being a hatchback and not a sedan is like some Beiber fan criticizing 9th symphony for not being hip.

Dude, you mentioned the name who's name should not be uttered. Now there's a strong possibility that he may be lurking in this very forum feasting on members. Darkness is upon us.

While I welcome AWD to Ferraris, especially if the weight penalty is somewhat negligible and the performance is still trademark Ferrari, I still find it a little odd to see it on snow.

 

[bombardier01]

^Ok now I'm excited. As long as I don't see the rear it's all good!

Me too!

So evil and fierce!

The Evil is smiling with her eyes... errr using braces???

 

[Bartek S.]

 

[Cashmere]

spotted in Barcelona. Looks like a brochure shoot

 

[martinbo]

It's frakkin' huge!

 

[rollo]

Sure is, looks like a 2 door Panamera from the side.

 

[Soup]

 

[Soup]

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^I like how it's all the same regurgitated pics. Give us new ones already, GEEZ!

 

[Sayyaaf]

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[Shining Star]

 

[Giannis]

That is a hit below the belt...

 

[K-A]

Ahhhh. I'm sorry, but that's the worst Ferrari front end I've ever seen. This is like finding out that Santa Clause doesn't exist.

It's extremely comical, like literally, Comic-Book-able. The headlights are a haphazard and unrefined shape to me, and the hood shutline is terrible....

.... What is happening??!!