FF [Official] 2011 Ferrari FF

[Michael]

I actually really like this. Granted, this is not typical for Ferrari, but then again most manufacturers today in day are not being typical and have been diving into other areas of the market, including cars like these which some would say is a hatcback and others would say is a shooting brake. Whatever you stance in on it, I think it is a pretty stunning car.

 

[lambornima]

shooting brake, hatchback whatever...a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and ugly by any other name would look as bad.

this vs 4 door sedan? 4 door luxury sedan all the way.

660hp + dual clutch + awd to go up against the likes of such cars as the S65 AMG would be more like it

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I mourned the passing of the 456 GT and found myself scowling at the sight of a 612 Scaglietti. I was beginning to resign myself to the notion that Ferrari was no longer able to manufacter a truly elegant GT. Forever gone are the days of the various drop-dead gorgeous and utterly refined 275, 330, 365 and 500 Superfast 2+2 GTs'. But yet, there was always that slightest glimmer of hope that Ferrari would, someday, bring a car to market that would be a truly worthy successor to those grand GTs' of yore.

While the FF does not appear to be that car, I find myself liking it far better than the 612. At least in the photographs. It's still a bit clowns' shoe-ish, but in a more Gucci or Ferragamo sort of way.

Is there hope, after all ?

 

[Centurion]

Ok. It's the day after, let's find out how we all feel. The reason why Ferrari went with an unorthodox body style is for one simple reason: To differentiate their 2+2 from their 2 door GT. I have always had a confusion over the existence of the 612 and 599 and only saw beauty as the biggest distinction between the two. But now the visual differences between them are even greater though I'm somewhat in decisive about whether I like the car or not. It's badass and any boyracers dream but does the world need a glorified Fiat Punto Abarth?

Taking a second look at the images I cannot say that the FF is the Ferrari of my dreams. The front styling is sublime but looking at the photos of the grey say I fail to see a sexy and seductive Ferrari, instead, I see a quasi-station wagon with optional €800 grocery nets for the boot available in a colours that matches the full leather stitching. Maybe they should have gone for a four door configuration after all? An elongated hatchback lacks the grace of the spectacular 599GTB.

 

[Monster]

Ok. It's the day after, let's find out how we all feel. The reason why Ferrari went with an unorthodox body style is for one simple reason: To differentiate their 2+2 from their 3 door GT. I have always had a confusion over the existence of the 612 and 599 and only saw beauty as the biggest distinction between the two. But now the visual differences between them are even greater though I'm somewhat in decisive about whether I like the car or not.

Not sure which 2+2 Ferrari you are referring, perhaps the California, the 599 has always been a 2 seater.

I am equally indecisive about the look of the car, we need more photos and videos to make a final judgement.

It's badass and any boyracers dream but does the world need a glorified Fiat Punto Abarth?

Probably, if there are enough people out there who has the money to destroy their luxury or super cars with absolute vomit inducing body and interior 'personalization' then they will be more than happy with this Ferrari. Maybe this is exactly what they are after, a super fast wagon thing to carry their shopping bags, fat wallet, and perhaps illegal substances.

 

[Jabba]

UGLY!!!!!!!

GORGEOUS!

I don´t know what to say: The back is just fantastic, the front... ok, simply Ferrari. But the side view, aaaaarghh, what´s that?????

Very very difficult... i think i´ll buy one when i´m grown up

 

[Top Secret]

24 hours later and I'm still blown away by Ferrari's audacity to replace their flagship with a shooting brake, a body style that has traditionally been a coach builder's plaything. It's a big gamble, but I personally love it.

The complete re-imagining of the Grand Tourer is what gets me. Ferrari could have simply added 2 extra seats to the 599GTB and laughed all the way to the bank, but no. They threw out 50+ years of heritage, along with generations and generations of classic and iconic 2+2 designs and started with a clean sheet and presumably one question: "How do we make the best Grand Tourer possible?" This was their result - a modern-looking, spacious and practical Grand Tourer with all-weather ability and supercar-rivalling pace, whilst remaining more eco-friendly than ever. People will moan and complain that this car isn't as pretty as the 250GT Lusso or a 456M, but the fact is, the FF will be a far greater Grand Tourer than any other Ferrari before it.

Ultimately, the FF embodies the attitude of the management currently at the helm of Ferrari - constantly moving forward, unwilling to be held back by the past and challenging the normal conventions to ultimately create the best car possible. For that, this car should be celebrated and hailed as a triumph.

 

[Centurion]

Factoid of the day is that Ferrari now has three front-engined Grand Tourer and only one mid-engined car on offer. For comparison Porsche only has two front engined in their line up while Lamborghini has none.

 

[martinbo]

People clearly aren't mindful of what this car is nor do they really have much of an insight into the history and heritage of the Ferrari marque. This car replaces the 612 Scaglietti or did the detractors and so called "experts" somehow not get this. Oh, and if you did I suggest you go and trawl through all the positive posts on the 612 in this forum. You'll probably find 4.

Clown shoes, Fiat Puntos and hatchbacks... Tsk, tsk...

Here's a Ferrari Daytona - one of the most beautiful cars ever made... Check out the recipe. You may recognise the long nose, shallow glasshouse, truncated rear and cab-backward proportions. It's about as old as I am...

Which probably explains a lot.

 

[martinbo]

Factoid of the day is that Ferrari now has three front-engined Grand Tourer and only one mid-engined car on offer.

You should've posted this in the California thread 2 years ago because the advent of this car doesn't change anything. It continues the 456 GT, 612 Scag lineage. It's the folding metal roof California that added a new model to the line up.

So there's no now about this fact.

 

[LaArtist]

^Wasent that car like a nasty mark on Ferraris history?

 

[Centurion]

Here's a Ferrari Daytona - one of the most beautiful cars ever made... Check out the recipe. You may recognise the long nose, shallow glasshouse, truncated rear and cab-backward proportions. It's about as old as I am...

Fair enough. It's all there except a slowing rear. The Daytona has a gorgeous and skinny tail and doesn't look at heavy as the FF. On a positive note it doesn't look like a hearse.

 

[lambornima]

24 hours later and I'm still blown away by Ferrari's audacity to replace their flagship with a shooting brake, a body style that has traditionally been a coach builder's plaything. It's a big gamble, but I personally love it.

The complete re-imagining of the Grand Tourer is what gets me. Ferrari could have simply added 2 extra seats to the 599GTB and laughed all the way to the bank, but no. They threw out 50+ years of heritage, along with generations and generations of classic and iconic 2+2 designs and started with a clean sheet and presumably one question: "How do we make the best Grand Tourer possible?" This was their result - a modern-looking, spacious and practical Grand Tourer with all-weather ability and supercar-rivalling pace, whilst remaining more eco-friendly than ever. People will moan and complain that this car isn't as pretty as the 250GT Lusso or a 456M, but the fact is, the FF will be a far greater Grand Tourer than any other Ferrari before it.

Ultimately, the FF embodies the attitude of the management currently at the helm of Ferrari - constantly moving forward, unwilling to be held back by the past and challenging the normal conventions to ultimately create the best car possible. For that, this car should be celebrated and hailed as a triumph.

anyone can put a positive spin on something. If ferrari came out with a minivan, I would almost word-for-word be able to copy-past your response and put a positive spin on it.

sad truth is, as you pointed out in your post, they threw away 50 years of heritage.

moreover, the things you pointed out such as supercar pace, all weather ability and relative eco-friendliness has nothing to do with the shape of the car.

no one is complaining about the technical abilities of the car, as im sure they will be incredible. no one is complaining that the car is AWD. but a hatchback ferrari is a utter failure in my book.

 

[SCOTT27]

Shooting Brakes are the next big thing.
Especially for the premium / luxury segment - people want space and flexibility without height and utility. You have already seen the Mercedes-Benz shooting Brake , BMW have two in development , one for the 1er and 6er.

But I have to say I really like this FF , can't wait to see the car in Geneva in March.

 

[bombardier01]

Shooting Brakes are the next big thing.
Especially for the premium / luxury segment - people want space and flexibility without height and utility. You have already seen the Mercedes-Benz shooting Brake , BMW have two in development , one for the 1er and 6er.

But I have to say I really like this FF , can't wait to see the car in Geneva in March.

For me, it's ugly!
If this is a BMW or Mercedes, well maybe people can accept this Shooting Brakes idea because it turns out to be like a super stylish station wagon, then it's fine!
But a Ferrari, seriously?? a hatchback supercar??
Ferrari is identical to sexy & exotic supercars.. A hatchback doesn't suit the Ferrari image, why don't they just a make a traditional coupe like 612 Scaglietti??
What a disappointment..

 

[Kowalski]

I'd like to see it in black with tan leather interior. I bet it would look fabulous.

 

[alistar26]

I'm really stunned!

What a car! What a machine!

The F word came to my mind as soon as I saw the official pics.

It's just epic.

I'm amazed by the way Ferrari is able to go forward with such HUGE leaps in terms of exterior design every time a new car is introduced.
Come on, what will the next Enzo look like!

For sure, it takes some time to get used to. It's an acquired taste.

On top of it, it's 4 WHEEL DRIVE. 4 WHEEL DRIVE.

Because of this car, we all have to recalibrate our minds as to what Ferrari has become.

After Fiorano, California and Italia, the name FF is bland and tasteless though.
It's predecessor was not a beauty but its name was superb: Scaglietti.

FORZA FERRARI!
FORZA FERRARI!

PS: after Conquistador and Stallone, whe should start a game and try to guess what name Mansory will give to this car once his tunning programm for the FF is launched.

 

[Sunny]

BTW I've heard of snowdrifts, but this is ridiculous.
YouTube - The FF unveiled on Ferrari.com / Svelata su Ferrari.com la FF

If anyone missed it, there is blue one with out any camo at the end of the video - looks freaking awesome.

 

[Monster]

I am not sure if this qualify, but Lamborghini had a similar offering with their Espada back in 1968.

http://img412.imageshack.us/i/lamborghiniespada196810.jpg/


Perhaps the shape of this Ferrari FF isn't as ground breaking as it seems?

 

[Sunny]

^ I don't think anyone is claiming the shape is ground breaking. Shooting breaks was popular niche for exotics in the past especially with coach builders.

There was AM DB5 shooting break:

and then DB6 Superleggera Shooting Brake:

And then the Virage shooting break

The very handsome AM Jet2 by Bertone.



There was Lamborghini FS II

Ferrari 330 GT shooting break



Ferrari Daytona Shooting break:

The shape died probably cause of the demise of coach builders themselves. I will be happy if it makes a comeback. While the young ones here brought upon a diet of golf and civic hatch backs might confuse it for one, the oldies here know it to be a classic.