Poll M5 (F10) & E63 AMG PP (W212): Speed Battle!
- Thread starter Karabiner98k
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Too true. I've a novel idea, how's about getting 4 or 5 of each on to a 2 mile runway and run them all in a line together to see the outcome. If nothing else it would let us see just how consistent they quality control is with regards to power outputs.
ACE
Autobahn Adventurer
I'm not so sure about that. The additional AWD frictional drivetrain losses may hinder the E63 AMG S 4 Matic's high speed acceleration. It'll certainly be faster to 100 and 200 but that is not the topic of this thread.I vote for the fastest one.. E63 AMG S 4 Matic.. it leaves the M5 in the dust.
Zafiro
Supreme Roadmaster
Karabiner98k
Kraftkurve King
I searched through magazines and found some 0-160 mph times:
According to Car & Driver:
M6 (E63) with 507 PS reaches 160 mph in 23.2 s
CLS63 AMG P.P (557 PS) reaches 160 mph in 23.0 s
CLS63 P.P & E63 P.P have about the same performance. M5 F10 is surely faster than M6 E63.
If the old M6 can keep up with CLS63 P.P up to 160 mph, then i think M5 F10 should out-accelerate E63 at least to 180 mph.
According to Car & Driver:
M6 (E63) with 507 PS reaches 160 mph in 23.2 s
CLS63 AMG P.P (557 PS) reaches 160 mph in 23.0 s
CLS63 P.P & E63 P.P have about the same performance. M5 F10 is surely faster than M6 E63.
If the old M6 can keep up with CLS63 P.P up to 160 mph, then i think M5 F10 should out-accelerate E63 at least to 180 mph.
Karabiner98k
Kraftkurve King
M5 is no match for a 585 PS 4WD with 800 nm.
This E63 should be better to be compared with Panamera Turbo S. (0-100 km/h & 400 m only)
This E63 should be better to be compared with Panamera Turbo S. (0-100 km/h & 400 m only)
LaArtist
Wunderkind of Wheels
Who is even talking about the RS6?but I dont think MB benchmarked the new AMG with the upcoming RS6
Zafiro
Supreme Roadmaster
I understand, we dont speak about the scary things
We all know S-version going to be quicker than M5 but Im more curious how Rs6 going to stand up considering it also have AWD.
m5 must remain rwd
Why? M5 is no more "fun to drive".
Anyway this rule applies in general:
FI = AWD
NA = RWD
LaArtist
Wunderkind of Wheels
I understand, we dont speak about the scary things
We all know S-version going to be quicker than M5 but Im more curious how Rs6 going to stand up considering it also have AWD.
RS6
1925kg
560 hp
700nm
E63 S
1940kg
575hp
800nm
Nothing to be afraid off, but it should be a tight race..
But once again lets get back to the topic at hand.
There is no way in hell the M5 is as fast as these above
Zafiro
Supreme Roadmaster
At least not from 0-XXXkm/h. Rolling start should be closer though.
Sunny
Premium
RS6 also has an additional cog. RS6 is going to put more torque to the road than either of the other two.
And I won't write M5 off yet. Yes, it will be much slower at the begining, but as speeds increase, it is going to be faster.
In this video someone posted of RS7 and M5, M5 looses massive amounts in the beginning - it is trailing behind almost 40kmph after 5 secs (107kmph vs 70). After 15 secs the difference is almost halved (231 kmph vs 215) and by the end of the video (21 secs), M5 is fast catching up and dead even with RS7 (258 kmph vs 256 kmph). If it went on to 300 kmph, I wouldn't be surprised if M5 is faster. AWD is a big drag at higher speeds (since frictional loss increases exponentially with speed).
