iPhone 5 2012

Interesting news:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/13/3874210/apple-cuts-iphone-5-parts-orders

It's a wake up call to Apple that marginal updates just aren't going to cut it anymore. IMO, this is good news for consumers. Expect a major revamp with the next iphone.

Every quarter of every year "anonymous sources" say that Apple is cutting orders in a product (pick one, they say it for all), based purely on conjecture. Every quarter, their "analysis" is proven wrong.

People can never grasp just how complex Apple's supply chain is and just how brilliant a supply chain guru Tim Cook is (most revolutionary in that aspect of our time by far). They're very smart in how they order, don't over allocate, have lots of partners, and if they're cutting "Display Orders" the reasoning is most likely due to them ordering enough for the iPhone 5 production run and already ramping up for the next iPhone display.

Apple had to keep pushing orders in mass for iPhone 5 because the phone was sold out for so long, i.e demand has been outstripping supply.
 
Every quarter of every year "anonymous sources" say that Apple is cutting orders in a product (pick one, they say it for all), based purely on conjecture.

Im assuming you never read the article?

However, a separate report from Nikkei corroborates that iPhone 5 screen makers Sharp and Japan Display have had their orders for displays cut in half during the first calendar quarter. According to the report, Apple had planned to source a total of 65 million displays from the two companies during that period, but that number has been reduced "in response to lower than planned global sales of Apple's iPhone 5
 
Im assuming you never read the article?
i guess reading the article is too complex of a concept for him to grasp.


And K-A, what the hell are you on about ? Demand of the iphone5 outstrip supply? The phone is sold out everywhere? I walked into the apple store in Hong Kong Ifc shopping mall today and i asked the shop if they have stock of the iphone 5 right now and they said yes, and i saw boxes of them behind the counter. I can get one in Tokyo as well as in Sydney. I dont see how the phone is sold out.
 
Apple cuts orders for iPhone 5 parts on weak demand: Nikkei


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Apple Inc has cut orders for LCD screens and other parts for the iPhone 5 this quarter due to weak demand, the Nikkei reported on Monday, in a further sign the U.S. firm is losing ground to Asian smartphone rivals. Shares of the Cupertino, California-based company fell more than 4 percent to $498.20 before the bell on Monday. They closed at $520.30 on Friday on the Nasdaq. The news also dragged shares of Apple suppliers such as Cirrus Logic Inc and Qualcomm Inc. Apple has asked Japan Display Inc, Sharp Corp and South Korea's LG Display Co Ltd to roughly halve supplies of LCD panels from an initial plan for about 65 million screens in January-March, the Japanese daily said, citing people familiar with the situation, adding the U.S. firm also cut orders for other iPhone components. The move, if confirmed, would tally with analysts saying that sales of the new iPhone 5, which was released in September, have not been as strong as anticipated.

Apple was not immediately available for comment outside regular U.S. business hours. No one at Sharp was immediately available to comment on Monday - a national holiday in Japan - and parts suppliers to Apple in Taiwan declined to comment. Apple has lost ground in the $200 billion plus global smartphone market to South Korean rival Samsung Electronics and smaller Chinese rivals such as Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp. Jefferies analyst Peter Misek trimmed his iPhone shipment estimates for the January-March quarter on December 14, saying that the technology company had started cutting orders to suppliers to balance excess inventory. Apple also cut its orders for memory chips for its new iPhone from its main supplier and competitor Samsung, Reuters reported in September, quoting sources with direct knowledge of the matter. The company has been cutting back its orders from Samsung as it seeks to diversify its memory chip supply lines.

SAMSUNG OVERTAKES APPLE

Samsung said on Monday that global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones had topped 100 million since the first model was launched in May 2010. The Galaxy S3, launched last May, sold more than 40 million in seven months. The new Galaxy S IV is widely expected to be released within months, and may have an unbreakable screen, full high-definition quality resolution boasting 440 pixels per inch, and a more powerful processor.


Samsung has overtaken Apple, helped in part by the popularity of its Galaxy Note II phone-cum-tablet, reinforcing the benefits of offering a wider range of handheld devices at most price points, while Apple rolled out just a single new smartphone last year globally, analysts have said. Samsung is expected to increase its smartphone sales by more than a third this year, and widen its lead over Apple, according to researcher Strategy Analytics, which has forecast Samsung will sell 290 million smartphones in 2013 versus iPhone sales of 180 million. Kim Sung-in, an analyst at Kiwoom Securities in Seoul, sees Samsung shipping 320 million smartphones this year and doubling sales of its tablets to 32 million. Japan Display's plant in Nomi, southwest Japan, where Apple has invested heavily, is expected to temporarily reduce output by up to 80 percent from October-December levels, the Nikkei reported, while Sharp's dedicated facility for iPhone 5 LCD panels will trim production in January-February by about 40 percent.

- http://news.yahoo.com/apple-cuts-lcd-panel-orders-iphone-5-weak-033840869--finance.html
 
i guess reading the article is too complex of a concept for him to grasp.


And K-A, what the hell are you on about ? Demand of the iphone5 outstrip supply? The phone is sold out everywhere? I walked into the apple store in Hong Kong Ifc shopping mall today and i asked the shop if they have stock of the iphone 5 right now and they said yes, and i saw boxes of them behind the counter. I can get one in Tokyo as well as in Sydney. I dont see how the phone is sold out.
LOL iPhone5 was sold out for months. They finally caught up to demand and are now likely cutting back orders as the next one gets ready. Again, every quarter these reports come out. People underestimate Apple's supply chain prowess. We'll know soon enough but threes "cuts" ALWAYS cite unofficially tied sources from their actual suppliers.
 
LOL iPhone5 was sold out for months. They finally caught up to demand and are now likely cutting back orders as the next one gets ready. Again, every quarter these reports come out. People underestimate Apple's supply chain prowess. We'll know soon enough but threes "cuts" ALWAYS cite unofficially tied sources from their actual suppliers.

You seriously think that Apple didn't intentionally do this?
 
You seriously think that Apple didn't intentionally do this?
The most successful company in the world with by far the most profiting retail presence per square foot? lines down blocks around the world in hyped anticipation? Sales records in U.S and China on launch weekends and pre-orders?

Absolutely not. That cost Apple big and it gave competitors enough time to push customers into their available products. Even though only Apple's supply chain is up to that kind of task as the Google just proved with the Nexus 4 fiasco, I'd say they botched the launch.
 
And since I just got to a desktop to type more easily: I mean I'd say APPLE botched the launch of iPhone 5.

Yes, keeping up with record grabbing demand that Apple products see (and yes, still growing healthily) is only a task that APPLE can pull off (which is what I meant by "ask Google or LG for that matter" as the Nexus 4 is just unavailable, people haven't gotten there's, orders were messed up, just a big fiasco), but when iPhone 5 was off the shelves for months, it REALLY hit the momentum of the phone, hard.

IF iPhone 5 is a "failure" via expectations then that will be the reason. They allowed Samsung to cram record-setting marketing-budget ads down the throats of people and brainwash them to think the GS3 is the "best phone in the world", when not only does iPhone 5 run circles around it in about every fundamentally functioning way, but the Nexus 4 and other phones now even out-spec the GS3 (and have for a while now).

There were reports that Apple's suppliers were saying how long it took to make iPhone 5 because of how advanced and complicated the design is (and how perfectionist Apple's demands justifiably are), etc. etc.

Make no mistake, iPhone 5's launch was BOTCHED by Apple, and it cost them. Fortunately, huge record setting opening weekend demand and sales in China are hopefully enough to offset any switchers who just couldn't wait longer for iPhone 5 around the world (raising my hand, as I was one of them).

IMO iPhone 5 is still unequalled as a device both functionally and aesthetically, but I think Apple NEEDS to give more screen sizes. They are literally giving away some market share because they won't offer a bigger screen. iPhone 5 looks, functionality, quality and Apple-branding-factor at the size of a GS3 would be HUGE on the market, both figuratively and literally, I think.
 
LOL! iphone 5 sold out for months? where is the evidence? three of my friends who wanted an iphone 5 got theirs at launch week without any waiting, at different times and at different shops. Also you still dont understand that there are people who genuinely prefer to use andriod over ios, they have not been brainwashed as you said. also there is nothing stopping you from getting the iphone 5 now.
 
I'm the evidence. I wanted one and couldn't get it for months.

It WAS sold out for months in terms of being completely a no-go in terms of walking into a store and getting it. No Apple Stores in SoCal had any in stock except for a rural area or two that had white Sprint phones. Wait times were exaggeratedly long until about December.

The phone was literally unattainable for months due to a bottle neck in initial demand. That whole process hurt a lot of the phone momentum. Apple f**ked up the launch. Even advertisements weren't airing during that period around here, while the GS3 was brainwashing people into thinking it was the "next best thing". Samsung marketing went in for the attack as Apple left the door wide open for them.
 
And we all, are the victims...

Sorry to spoil your anti-Apple party with truth.

No, iPhone 5 was easily attainable during launch, that's why AAPL stock was tanking due to invisible "inventory problems", the richest and most successful company in the world who generates lines and instant sellouts that no competitors could dream of, has to "make up" demand problems by NOT STOCKING THEIR PRODUCTS RIGHT AFTER LAUNCH.

You really believe yourself, or you just like spinning your wheels on this?
 
You really believe yourself, or you just like spinning your wheels on this?

No, I am very serious. I can provide you with some bibliography where you can read of a wide variety of ways to manipulate your target groups, when you want to introduce your product to the market. It's marketing!

Yet, I have no time or intention to convince you. It's impossible. So, that's my last post on this matter :)
 
No, I am very serious. I can provide you with some bibliography where you can read of a wide variety of ways to manipulate your target groups, when you want to introduce your product to the market. It's marketing!

Yet, I have no time or intention to convince you. It's impossible. So, that's my last post on this matter :)

You're wrong, worst part is you don't know it.

Apple don't NEED to do that. Have you ever seen their balance sheet? Their stores? Their numbers? Their lines? Did you see what Foxconn themselves said about how hard it was to put together iPhone 5?

Do you follow AAPL stock? Because if you don't maybe you should sit down on this subject.

The stock got PUMMELED during this "iPhone 5 hiatus" which started an even larger momentum against it. Every report that came out saying "you still can't walk into an Apple Store and buy iPhone 5" sent it down more and more. You think Apple purposefully did this? Tim Cook had to put out press releases to assure the public/presses that they were working hard on fixing the problem.

One or two weeks of it is cute, but months? No.

You clearly don't research Apple business as much as I do, nor do you understand how this situation affected Apple. This is how misinformation always runs abound around Apple.
 
And for the record, I'm not denying that what you're implying isn't true in the sense that "companies" will use that tactic.

However, Apple did not use that tactic, if they did, then every Exec should be fired because it was damaging.
 

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