Smartphones iPhone 8 & X

[sako97]

IOS is also a rip off. Most of the IOS and Android stuff was copied from preexisting technologies.

I mean everyone knows that.

 

[braaf]

Apple make aspirational products.

 

[klier]

Which dutch ?

ASML Homepage

They make the machines that make the chips. No new machines from ASML means no new chips for Apple and Samsung.

IOS is also a rip off. Most of the IOS and Android stuff was copied from preexisting technologies.

A technology means nothing if it's not properly implemented.
Apple was the first to make the whole package.

Anyways, I am not here to pick sides between Apple and Samsung. To each his own, both make lovely products.

 

[braaf]

ASML Homepage

They make the machines that make the chips. No new machines from ASML means no new chips for Apple and Samsung.



A technology means nothing if it's not properly implemented.
Apple was the first to make the whole package.

Anyways, I am not here to pick sides between Apple and Samsung. To each his own, both make lovely products.

I agree 100%. It just pissed me off when Apple sued Samsung for copying them and won the case when the evidence was there. It smacked of American bias in American courts.

 

[klier]

The "Bionic" part in the name of Apple's A11 Bionic chip isn't just marketing speak. It's the most powerful processor ever put in a mobile phone. We've put this chip to the test in both synthetic benchmarks and some real-world speed trials, and it obliterates every Android phone we tested.

Link: iPhone 8 Is World's Fastest Phone (It's Not Even Close)

Let's start with Geekbench 4, which measures overall performance. On the multicore portion of this test, the iPhone 8 hit 10,170. That's 54 percent faster than the score from Samsung's Galaxy Note 8 — currently the fastest Android phone.


The Android competition wasn't close. The Note 8 scored 6,564, and that's with an impressive 6GB of RAM paired with Qualcomm's fast Snapdragon 835 chip. How about the OnePlus 5 and its 8GB of RAM and Snapdragon 835? That handset got 6,542. With 4GB of RAM, the Galaxy S8 scored 6,295 with the same processor.

Next up is 3DMark, which gauges graphics performance. The iPhone 8 scored an off-the-charts 62,212, and the iPhone 8 Plus managed an even higher 64,412. Compare that to the Note 8's 39,834 and the OnePlus 5's 39,576.

If you're wondering how all this translates to real-world performance, we have more good news for iPhone 8 shoppers — and bad news for everyone else. To really put the A11 Bionic chip through its paces, we put the same 2-minute video, shot in 4K by a drone, on the iPhone 8, Galaxy Note 8 and Galaxy S8+, and then added the same transitions and effects before exporting and saving the video.

The iPhone 8 finished this strenuous task in just 42 seconds, while the Note 8 took more than 3 minutes. The Galaxy S8+ took more than 4 minutes.

 

[sako97]

The "Bionic" part in the name of Apple's A11 Bionic chip isn't just marketing speak. It's the most powerful processor ever put in a mobile phone. We've put this chip to the test in both synthetic benchmarks and some real-world speed trials, and it obliterates every Android phone we tested.

Link: iPhone 8 Is World's Fastest Phone (It's Not Even Close)

Let's start with Geekbench 4, which measures overall performance. On the multicore portion of this test, the iPhone 8 hit 10,170. That's 54 percent faster than the score from Samsung's Galaxy Note 8 — currently the fastest Android phone.


The Android competition wasn't close. The Note 8 scored 6,564, and that's with an impressive 6GB of RAM paired with Qualcomm's fast Snapdragon 835 chip. How about the OnePlus 5 and its 8GB of RAM and Snapdragon 835? That handset got 6,542. With 4GB of RAM, the Galaxy S8 scored 6,295 with the same processor.

Next up is 3DMark, which gauges graphics performance. The iPhone 8 scored an off-the-charts 62,212, and the iPhone 8 Plus managed an even higher 64,412. Compare that to the Note 8's 39,834 and the OnePlus 5's 39,576.

If you're wondering how all this translates to real-world performance, we have more good news for iPhone 8 shoppers — and bad news for everyone else. To really put the A11 Bionic chip through its paces, we put the same 2-minute video, shot in 4K by a drone, on the iPhone 8, Galaxy Note 8 and Galaxy S8+, and then added the same transitions and effects before exporting and saving the video.

The iPhone 8 finished this strenuous task in just 42 seconds, while the Note 8 took more than 3 minutes. The Galaxy S8+ took more than 4 minutes.

Very informative. What the internet's Android warriors won't say.

 

[braaf]

Very informative. What the internet's Android warriors won't say.

Honestly, I'm unashamedly an Android warrior as you so nicely put it and i couldn't be bothered by what Apple has to say or produce. I genuinely don't care. I found out 2 weeks after the release of the i phone 8 that there was a new i phone.

Having said that these numbers are stupendously impressive and well done to Apple. Not surprised though as Apple have always designed very good processors.

 

[klier]

Very informative. What the internet's Android warriors won't say.

Indeed, they will say a Galaxy S6 has more features

 

[A.P.]

Kind of unrelated, but at the same time sort of related to FaceiD thing.

Tested Sony's 3D Scan app today and I was impressed by it. So if IPhone's works at the same rate for unlocking the phone I will be impressed.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

@braaf

So, you don't think Apple make aspirational products? If the technology isn't as good as Samsung, then why do people buy them?

Ask any business or brand analyst and they would say Apple is the classic example of an aspirational brand. The fact that you prefer Android doesn't change that fact.

 

[braaf]

@braaf

So, you don't think Apple make aspirational products? If the technology isn't as good as Samsung, then why do people buy them?

Ask any business or brand analyst and they would say Apple is the classic example of an aspirational brand. The fact that you prefer Android doesn't change that fact.

No I don't. I think to millions of people they make desirable products. I think Apple are brilliant at marketing and that is what made them what they are today. What they have managed to do is to have the highest customer retention of any Electronics manufacturer.

That is partly due to selling people the notion of this closed eco system which has been hacked on numerous occasions. However IMO they still have best security.

Their products are no better than or worse than Samsung products and I'm using Samsung because they are their closest competitors. I'm not trying to bash Apple, I'm just not sold on what they're offering.

 

[sako97]

Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak on the X:

I'd rather wait and watch that one. I'm happy with my iPhone 8 — which is the same as the iPhone 7, which is the same as the iPhone 6, to me," Wozniak said, speaking from the sidelines of the Money 20/20 conference. "For some reason, the iPhone X is going to be the first iPhone I didn't — on day one — upgrade to. But my wife will, so I'll be close enough to see it."

 

[SKY]

So guys? Anyone has already bought the iPhone X? Since I am not going to pay 1200 euros it costs in Spain, I am have asked a friend of mine in the US to buy one for me. That would mean 800 euros instead of 1200, which would be even less since I am selling my iPhone 6.

I can only hope there is enough stock for my friend to buy it, he will be returning Spain in a couple of weeks.

 

[Centurion]

So guys? Anyone has already bought the iPhone X? Since I am not going to pay 1200 euros it costs in Spain, I am have asked a friend of mine in the US to buy one for me. That would mean 800 euros instead of 1200, which would be even less since I am selling my iPhone 6.

I can only hope there is enough stock for my friend to buy it, he will be returning Spain in a couple of weeks.

I went and looked at one. iOS still looks the same and the screen quality just achieves parity with Android Phones. The viewing area is marginally better than the iPhone 8 so if you are coming from a Plus, it will feel smaller. It's no different with the Galaxy S8, the real estate previously occupied by a home button is now occupied by a menu in some apps.

Next year the majority of Apple's iPhones will be OLED and by then they will have sorted out the notch and hopefully offer a plus model, so my girlfriend and I will hold off.