X5 M / X6 M First press reviews: BMW X6 M

[Betty Swollocks]

We all love the prestige of suffix/prefix such as M, RS, AMG and Turbo. People love labels, especially on expensive things

Speak for yourself. We're not all that shallow.

M isn't about a "label". It's not a Gucci handbag for Christ's sake.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Thanks Martin. I know M is more than just a badge, and I don't want to get in that arguement. But I think people are over reacting, it is a car eventually and if it drives fast in straights and in bends, more track ready than you your average BMW then it is closer to M philosophy than any mainstream BMW. Turbos were a design constraint to acheive high torque with smaller displacement (although against M philosoph but sounds reasonable given the current circumstances). So in the end, M people were forced to do it and I think they did a wonderful job.

Now cross shopping between M3 and X6M ? I don't think it will happen. But they are people (the undersinged for example) who can't afford 2 premium cars at the same time but don't want to mess the thrill of a fast car. So X6/5M might be a great contender .. it will not perfrom as the M3 of course or M5. But it will be fast and practical.

My god I feel like this has been said like gazillion times in this fourm .. and the problem is that most members understand it BUT they are just pissed ...

BMW should come with something cool and old school to satisfy all ..

 

[Betty Swollocks]

but Don´t you think these issues you talk about are because of the engine and not because it is an SUV?

It's because it's a 2,380kg SUV that M had no choice but to use a torque laden engine and an auto gearbox. The 5.0 V10 would not suit this tank at all. So it IS because it's an SUV.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

But they are people (the undersinged for example) who can't afford 2 premium cars at the same time but don't want to mess the thrill of a fast car. So X6/5M might be a great contender .

For the price of a brand new X6 M you could have an M3 AND a diesel X5.

It will not perfrom as the M3 of course or M5. But it will be fast and practical.

What's wrong with the X6 XDrive35d. In the real world it will be just as quick as the X6 M. Except you won't have to stop as often for fuel.

 

[Zafiro]

I swear the God if BMW are ruining the next M3 and M5, my passion for BMW is out of the bedroom.
Too bad I need to wait at least another year for them, unless BMW release something else, like a performance car based on 1er or Z4.


Regarding X6 being practical I dont know, I doubt it offer more space in the backseat than a 5-series.

 

[LaArtist]

BMW: Late to the party.. with not so great products..
While Comprimising the philosophy..

Tripple loss situation it seems...

 

[martinbo]

^ I disagree Artist.

BMW M isn't late to the party - it is the party. Unless you're referring to the performance SUV "party" which is no real "party" at all.
BMW's M Products have never been anything but fantastic eg. M3.
Compromising the philosophy - yes - I go with that.

 

[martinbo]

Oh and Just_me. I wanted to give karma for awesome sig but seems I need to spread it out a bit. Odd. Anyhoo - here's my appreciation.

 

[ghusheshe]

I am really amazed by some of the negativity regarding this car. Most of it seems to come from true enthusiasts and fan boy alike. The X6 M is quicker than the E46 M3 around the ring, that is a hell of an engineering achievement for a truck that weighs 2 400 kg odd. Heck, if you want a nimble M car there’s a Z4 M or some practicality an M5 touring.. This is an M experience at a different level , might be different to some people’s expectations but an M experience all the same. I could never buy an X6 M, but for its purpose, it a great car. Don’t ask me what the purpose is though..



This time MotorAuthority has released their drive of the X6 M ( http://www.motorauthority.com/first-...-bmw-x6-m.html ) and they seem to share similar comments to what the other members of the automotive press are saying today.


Quote:
Hurtling along at a cool 143mph (230km/h) in BMW's 2010 X6 M at Road Atlanta just before you shut it down hard for turn 10A, there's a brief moment where you wonder if it's even physically possible for the 5,324lb (2,415kg) missile you're now a part of to slow down enough to make the turn and avoid surfing the sand into the runoff area. But the moment passes and soon enough you're throwing the car into a four-wheel drift and pegging the throttle as you confidently accelerate up the hill to start a new lap.

....

 

[Mr Robert]

Heck, if you want a nimble M car there’s a Z4 M...

No, there is not.

 

[Zafiro]

Most of it seems to come from true enthusiasts ....

Guilty indeed!
Only a true fanboy accept everything from their beloved carmaker. A true enthusiast can see in colours and be critical.
Only reason to love the X6M is for the powerful engine (or the badge) otherwise buy yourself X6 drive50 , get the M-powerpackage with upgraded engine (449hp), stiffen up the suspension and you have yourself capable machine that's more than enough for your SUV and for less money than a M version. I cant find another reason to buy X6M

 

[ghusheshe]

No, there is not.

Previous Z4 M Coupe that is...

 

[Betty Swollocks]

The X6 M is quicker than the E46 M3 around the ring, that is a hell of an engineering achievement for a truck that weighs 2 400 kg odd.

And if they'd called it the xDrive60i M Sport it would still have done the same time around the ring but they wouldn't have pissed off the M purists and risked BMW losing the kudos that comes with the M brand.

 

[Tarek]

^ I disagree Artist.

BMW M isn't late to the party - it is the party. Unless you're referring to the performance SUV "party" which is no real "party" at all.
BMW's M Products have never been anything but fantastic eg. M3.
Compromising the philosophy - yes - I go with that.

Actually Kashif is right Martin.

it's been a real while since ML created the performance SUV market with the first ML55 AMG then Porsche jumped wagon with the hideous(IMO) Cayenne Turbo then ML63 followed and now after all these years BMW is here violating their own M philosophy with the twin.

Personally i couldn't careless for M philosophy,i like the X6 M and would buy one if i could afford one.

 

[Sayyaaf]

OK guys, X6M is not for you .. move on. You'll have your m3 / m5 in the next couple of years ..

 

[Betty Swollocks]

You'll have your m3 / m5 in the next couple of years ..

Not if they just stick the X5/X6 M engine in the M5.

 

[Merc1]

Guilty indeed!
Only a true fanboy accept everything from their beloved carmaker. A true enthusiast can see in colours and be critical.
Only reason to love the X6M is for the powerful engine (or the badge) otherwise buy yourself X6 drive50 , get the M-powerpackage with upgraded engine (449hp), stiffen up the suspension and you have yourself capable machine that's more than enough for your SUV and for less money than a M version. I cant find another reason to buy X6M

This is exactly what I was saying in the X6 M Sport thread when I read that the regular X6 50i would be getting a power boost. Since when does the regular BMW and the M version carry such the same or the same engine in different states of tune? Where is the preacher of that nonsense about same engine many cars now? BMW sold everything they could with these "M" vehicles, but with that said I'd still take a X6 M in a minute.


M

 

[Centurion]

I cant find another reason to buy X6M

For some it will be about the status and prestige -- being apart of the elite who drives an M-car. It's like how the concept of the Veyron was first presented as a Bentley but the production car got a Bugatti badge instead, which works wonders for exclusivity in the eyes of consumers.

 

[Sunny]

Can one of those "purists" bemoaning the fact that X6M is not about "motorsports", please enlighten me how this 4400lb luxo-cruiser convertible has anything to do with motorsports?

How delusional does one have to be to still think M is still only about motorsports when one of their responsibilities is to come up with individual colors and leathers - *** does that have anything to do with motorsports?

 

[Tarek]

^Good point,maybe coz it had a NA and SMG box they let it pass.