5 Series BMW F11 5er Touring - press drives & reviews

[GCfan]

Well.....with 184 hp it's justified imo. It has almost as much power as an E39 I6 528i.....But yeah, it looks so much better than the El Cheapo version of the E60/E90

Yep, and it has probably 30% more torque at much lower revs

 

[Zafiro]

That is far from the truth Just Me. Specification of a particular option depends on it's price, perceived benefits etc. I don't think you can say most people will chose the option without any objective data to back this up. That's like suggesting most E buyers would choose airmatic, which is far from the truth. Customers tend to option more superficial items such as sound systems, bi xenon’s, sunroofs, alloy wheels, body kits etc. Adjustable suspensions are not usually high on the shopping list.

BMW knows the 5 benefits massively in the ride department from the addition of this suspension and thus chooses to fit almost all the test cars with it. Maybe magazines do prefer a 5 with the adaptive suspension over an airmatic equipped E-class because of its ride and handling balance. But I can guarantee you an airmatic equipped E will still ride better than the adaptive suspension equipped 5 and a standard E would ride better than the standard 5, even if in both cases the 5 has the preferred ride/handling compromise.

It's been a SLICK launch tactic by BMW without a doubt. It simply makes no sense that even low end test vehicles have had this expensive option.

Its my word against yours. I still stand with what I said before and I still belive in it. You cant prove Im wrong or that you are right.

Sure, the E-class migth be slightly more comfortable but the differences are very small. The new 5 is as comfortable than anyone will ever need. Its not like E-class is superior in this area and its much closer than it was between E60 and W210. If someone claim the new 5-series is an uncomfortable car, he is either biased or have an extremely sensitive body.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

No you're right Just Me. I drove the 5 and it is very comfortable. In my review I even stated if I were a rear seat passenger, I'd probably rather be in the BMW

My review is in this thread:
http://www.germancarforum.com/inter...-vs-my-w212-side-side-pics-little-review.html

So I'm not hating on the 5 in any way. I acknowledge it's pretty damn brilliant and likely to appeal to more people.

What bothers me is the fact that reviews have not had NON adaptive suspension equipped 5's, there may be one or two, and it certainly has been a clever move by BMW.

 

[Sunny]

It is not like Adaptive suspension is some super expensive option like ceramic brakes, AFAIK, it costs all of 1300 euros. Here is a test of 530d (I think with adaptive suspension) and it is still cheaper than the Merc and beats it pretty much in every category including ride comfort.

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[Mr. Mercedes]

Yet again with the adaptive suspension option.

I think i'm gonna give this peeve of mine a rest now lol.

 

[Sunny]

Yet again with the adaptive suspension option.

I think i'm gonna give this peeve of mine a rest now lol.

Yes, I know, my point was it still costs less than the Mercedes with out it. So kudos to BMW if they can offer a fantastic option like that for so cheap. Or to put it the another way, why the fock is the Merc so expensive even with out it and inferior in every way.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Yes, I know, my point was it still costs less than the Mercedes with out it. So kudos to BMW if they can offer a fantastic option like that for so cheap. Or to put it the another way, why the fock is the Merc so expensive even with out it and inferior in every way.

I guess there is a reason Mercedes per vehicle profitability is now second only to Porsche. lol.

 

[Sunny]

Yea, overcharging - good for shareholders, sucks for customers.

 

[SCOTT27]

BMW 5er Touring mit M-Packet.

Acknowledgement to Motor Authority.

First pictures of BMW 5er Touring Mit M-Packet.
First communication of M-Packet in July.
http://www.germancarforum.com/image/100314468_2011-bmw-5-series-m-sport-package

 

[klier]

Looks very good there. Thanks Scott.

 

[SKY]

July is a very long month SCOTT, coudl you specify if it will be at early July at least?.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Oh dear. BMW are doing their best to put me off the M Sport for the new 5, which I'm definitely interesting in. These wheels look like the standard wheels, and after the first pics of the bigger M Sport wheels and how poor they looked, I had high hopes for the smaller ones.

 

[Merc1]

A really handsome wagon, likely the best looking in the segment.

It is now up to Audi to try and change that with the next A6 Avant.


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[klier]

A really handsome wagon, likely the best looking in the segment.

M

Very different, but the E combi is very pretty in the right combo too (and of course the E63). The A6 Avant is way too boring for my liking. Like a bar of soap, and even an RS6 can't change that :/

 

[SCOTT27]

July is a very busy month for BMW.

The new BMW X3.
The BMW 5er and 5er Touring with M Packet.
The updated "A1 anihiliator" refreshed MINI range.
At the beginning of July we will be holding in Munich a Project-i , Future Mobility Workshop for the media .
Selected Media Test drives of the Vision Efficient Dynamics Concept @ BMW's Miramas facility.
Other fanctions of the media will be over at the ring driving the new M3 GTS , coinciding with the 25th anniversary of the M3 , The M3 GT2 "Jeff Koons" art car will also be shown.
The BMW 5er Touring will be shown at the moving Motorshow in Goodwood England.


And the event I am attending is a German launch for BMW dealers of the 5er Touring in the run-up to the September launch.
We will also have two M-Sport Packages on show which have been built for the Pavillion :
BMW 520d Touring M-Sport in Alpine White , BMW 535d Touring M-Sport in Carbon Black, BMW 520d Touring in Cashmere Silver , BMW 535i Touring in Imperial Blue and a BMW 550i Touring in Sophisto Grau.

 

[bmwblog]

July is a very busy month for BMW.

The new BMW X3.
The BMW 5er and 5er Touring with M Packet.
The updated "A1 anihiliator" refreshed MINI range.
At the beginning of July we will be holding in Munich a Project-i , Future Mobility Workshop for the media .
Selected Media Test drives of the Vision Efficient Dynamics Concept @ BMW's Miramas facility.
Other fanctions of the media will be over at the ring driving the new M3 GTS , coinciding with the 25th anniversary of the M3 , The M3 GT2 "Jeff Koons" art car will also be shown.
The BMW 5er Touring will be shown at the moving Motorshow in Goodwood England.


And the event I am attending is a German launch for BMW dealers of the 5er Touring in the run-up to the September launch.
We will also have two M-Sport Packages on show which have been built for the Pavillion :
BMW 520d Touring M-Sport in Alpine White , BMW 535d Touring M-Sport in Carbon Black, BMW 520d Touring in Cashmere Silver , BMW 535i Touring in Imperial Blue and a BMW 550i Touring in Sophisto Grau.

we will be in Munich in 2 weeks for the Mobility Days

 

[klier]

^ Nice, don't forget to bring the camera

 

[braaf]

Oh dear. BMW are doing their best to put me off the M Sport for the new 5, which I'm definitely interesting in. These wheels look like the standard wheels, and after the first pics of the bigger M Sport wheels and how poor they looked, I had high hopes for the smaller ones.

Not liking those wheels either.

 

[Zafiro]

Oh dear. BMW are doing their best to put me off the M Sport for the new 5, which I'm definitely interesting in. These wheels look like the standard wheels, and after the first pics of the bigger M Sport wheels and how poor they looked, I had high hopes for the smaller ones.

why not get Alpina B5 , seem to be popular in UK. Here is official illustration from Alpina based on the new 5-series.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

why not get Alpina B5 , seem to be popular in UK. Here is official illustration from Alpina based on the new 5-series.

I don't live in the UK. Are these available in the Netherlands?

I'm not a big fan of Alpina design either. It looks aftermarket and chavvy. I would just get a standard 5 Series to be honest without the M pack. It looks reasonably good although already it looks dull on the road. Only the fantastic interior redeems the 5 series F10. It's a shame because I love the M Sport E60 and the E90. Maybe the F10 will look better in the metal.